The New Intimacy

Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: CAN'T HELP THE WAY THAT I FEEL (Lori Bryant-Woolridge) and MAKING THE HOOK-UP (Cole Riley)(July 27, 7-11 PM EST)

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Contributor: Lori Bryant-Woolridge Lori Bryant-Woolridge
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Originally posted by Brendada
we're glad you came back to the erotica game!
07/27/2010
Contributor: Cole Riley Cole Riley
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
Sadr City, we have a problem...I think I've lost you.
It's about sequels and recycling. But we have to be like the Beats and the rebels from the 20s and 60s. Kick butt. Teach. Show the way. Show by example. There is so much to learn. Find teachers and mentors. I have learned so much from the writers.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Lori Bryant-Woolridge Lori Bryant-Woolridge
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Originally posted by Brendada
yay- a nice red, I am hoping?
Merlot
07/27/2010
Contributor: Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
It's about sequels and recycling. But we have to be like the Beats and the rebels from the 20s and 60s. Kick butt. Teach. Show the way. Show by example. There is so much to learn. Find teachers and mentors. I have learned so much from the writers.
The great Beat poet Diane di Prima made money for her and her kids by writing erotica for Olympia Press. btw!
07/27/2010
Contributor: Cole Riley Cole Riley
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
Sadr City, we have a problem...I think I've lost you.
I had great teachers. When I worked on this particular mag, I had teachers like Ida Lewis, Nikki G, and Paula Giddins. Ivan Webster. At the newspaper, I had Pete Hammill and Jimmy Breslin. At another job, I had Fred Friendly, who was the mentor of Ed R. Morrow. The guy who Cooney played. I had great teachers. And I was a good student. Before that, I was the guy Reagan and Newt warned you about.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Toys Toys
"I think some young adult writers feel as if they don't have enough experience to write, that they need to be older before they should try to contribute anything. What would you say to those that feel they are too young to write?"

As someone who put writing off for 14 years, I feel I'm finally in a good position to answer that question.

Writing is an expression of life experiences. However old you are, your writing is valid. The craft part of it takes some time, but that too is about experience. You have to do it to get better at it. And every time you do it, it counts--even if it's just for you--but I bet it will matter to someone just like you.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by Lori Bryant-Woolridge
Merlot
my fave
07/27/2010
Contributor: Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
I had great teachers. When I worked on this particular mag, I had teachers like Ida Lewis, Nikki G, and Paula Giddins. Ivan Webster. At the newspaper, I had Pete Hammill and Jimmy Breslin. At another job, I had Fred Friendly, who was the mentor of Ed ... more
well- teach us, too. Very impressive!
07/27/2010
Contributor: Cole Riley Cole Riley
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Originally posted by Toys
"I think some young adult writers feel as if they don't have enough experience to write, that they need to be older before they should try to contribute anything. What would you say to those that feel they are too young to ... more
Indeed, that is so true, Toys.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Lori Bryant-Woolridge Lori Bryant-Woolridge
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Originally posted by Toys
"I think some young adult writers feel as if they don't have enough experience to write, that they need to be older before they should try to contribute anything. What would you say to those that feel they are too young to ... more
Well said, and you only improve your craft by writing.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
I had great teachers. When I worked on this particular mag, I had teachers like Ida Lewis, Nikki G, and Paula Giddins. Ivan Webster. At the newspaper, I had Pete Hammill and Jimmy Breslin. At another job, I had Fred Friendly, who was the mentor of Ed ... more
I think the depth and breadth of good erotica comes from this kind of varied background of exceptional influences. Sex isn't just body parts, it's experiences, to paraphrase what you've been saying. As a writer of erotica, do you find yourself defending the genre or your own writing, or do you just let the stories speak for themselves?
07/27/2010
Contributor: Lori Bryant-Woolridge Lori Bryant-Woolridge
Looks like it's just Cole, Brenda and Toys. Wish I could pass the bottle!

I have a question for Brenda. When dealing with such diverse voices and themes, from a publishers POV how do you decide what will make a good anthology?
07/27/2010
Contributor: Cole Riley Cole Riley
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
Indeed, that is so true, Toys.
Write what you know.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Toys
"I think some young adult writers feel as if they don't have enough experience to write, that they need to be older before they should try to contribute anything. What would you say to those that feel they are too young to ... more
Very well said!
07/27/2010
Contributor: Hopeless Romantic Hopeless Romantic
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Originally posted by Lori Bryant-Woolridge
That's a very insightful question. What fuels your need for all of the toys? Yes, basic can get boring, but if it's never enough, then you have to ask yourself. Why.
well we really do not play with the toys as much as I'd like. Our sex is great usually if he's not getting bored. When he gets bored or cannot stay hard then I feel the need to spice it up with toys or something diffrent you know. To keep it interesting. I have noticed he obviously gets bored, and I think it's because he constantly ejaculates. We could have sex 3 times a day and he would still go into the bathroom, exclude me, and jack to porn! This upsets me, it's like I'm not enough for him! I asked him to watch porn with me, and it took him 3 months to actually do it. He asks me for anal and I'm all game, give him everything he wants when he wants. So where's my delima?
07/27/2010
Contributor: *Keona* *Keona*
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Originally posted by Toys
"I think some young adult writers feel as if they don't have enough experience to write, that they need to be older before they should try to contribute anything. What would you say to those that feel they are too young to ... more
I agree. There definitely isn't a age requirement when it comes to writing. I've read some stuff from a girl who from her writing I swore was an older experienced writer, come to find out she was 13. Her writing was beautiful. I hope she kept at it.
07/27/2010
Contributor: ♥ Amanda ♥ ♥ Amanda ♥
Hi. Sorry I'm late what's kickin!
07/27/2010
Contributor: Cole Riley Cole Riley
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
Write what you know.
Great question.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ♥ Amanda ♥
Hi. Sorry I'm late what's kickin!
Hey! Missed you last time

glad you're here this time
07/27/2010
Contributor: Lori Bryant-Woolridge Lori Bryant-Woolridge
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
I think the depth and breadth of good erotica comes from this kind of varied background of exceptional influences. Sex isn't just body parts, it's experiences, to paraphrase what you've been saying. As a writer of erotica, do you find ... more
I don't know about Cole, but I find myself defending the idea that A-A erotica can be beautiful, sexy, intelligent and provocative--both for mind and body. Folks are use to the one note and many are tired of hearing it sung. Other than a few of my relatives, I don't have to defend my work because I am able intellectulize and give a reason for what I write. Probably too much reason and intellectualizing. And probably because there is still a part of me that needs to make it an 'acceptable' thing to do.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by ♥ Amanda ♥
Hi. Sorry I'm late what's kickin!
Welcome, Amanda! We have both Cole Riley and Lori Bryant-Woolridge with us tonight, so feel free to jump into the fray and join the chat!
07/27/2010
Contributor: ♥ Amanda ♥ ♥ Amanda ♥
So how many have read the selections from tonight, sorry if this was already mentioned, I am showing up a little late to the party. I really enjoy Making the Hook Up myself. The very first story had me almost rolling on the floor laughing. Not many books can do that, but I was very amused. I loved it and recommend it highly for a good erotica selection that also has a lot of humor.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Hopeless Romantic Hopeless Romantic
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Originally posted by Lori Bryant-Woolridge
Looks like it's just Cole, Brenda and Toys. Wish I could pass the bottle!

I have a question for Brenda. When dealing with such diverse voices and themes, from a publishers POV how do you decide what will make a good anthology?
I'm still here, had to go smoke I think I'll have a glass of Sangria
07/27/2010
Contributor: Cole Riley Cole Riley
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Originally posted by Cole Riley
Great question.
I do not defend my writing of erotica. Most people, including most of my family, know I do it. And I do let the stories speak for themselves. One of my writers wrote a story while she was hospitalized. Another wrote a story while going through a divorce. And another while going through family mayhem. I learned from them.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Lori Bryant-Woolridge Lori Bryant-Woolridge
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Originally posted by Hopeless Romantic
well we really do not play with the toys as much as I'd like. Our sex is great usually if he's not getting bored. When he gets bored or cannot stay hard then I feel the need to spice it up with toys or something diffrent you know. To keep ... more
And that's why you don't give advice, without knowing all the facts!
07/27/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ♥ Amanda ♥
So how many have read the selections from tonight, sorry if this was already mentioned, I am showing up a little late to the party. I really enjoy Making the Hook Up myself. The very first story had me almost rolling on the floor laughing. Not many ... more
They're on my list, somewhat ironically I just finished reading the book we discussed last time, lol
07/27/2010
Contributor: *Keona* *Keona*
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Originally posted by ♥ Amanda ♥
So how many have read the selections from tonight, sorry if this was already mentioned, I am showing up a little late to the party. I really enjoy Making the Hook Up myself. The very first story had me almost rolling on the floor laughing. Not many ... more
Yay someone who did the homework I havent read either unfortunately.
07/27/2010
Contributor: Hopeless Romantic Hopeless Romantic
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Originally posted by ♥ Amanda ♥
So how many have read the selections from tonight, sorry if this was already mentioned, I am showing up a little late to the party. I really enjoy Making the Hook Up myself. The very first story had me almost rolling on the floor laughing. Not many ... more
I have not had the oportunity to read either of them. I actually do not think I have ever read anything like this with the exception of one book several years ago. It was sexual in nature but porly written so I do not recall the name. However I'd love to read these. I have added them to my wish list
07/27/2010
Contributor: Teddy Bell Teddy Bell
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Originally posted by Lori Bryant-Woolridge
Well said, and you only improve your craft by writing.
So True...So True!
07/27/2010
Contributor: ♥ Amanda ♥ ♥ Amanda ♥
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
Welcome, Amanda! We have both Cole Riley and Lori Bryant-Woolridge with us tonight, so feel free to jump into the fray and join the chat!
Wow! Awesome!
07/27/2010