Not exactly correct. As an Advanced Reviewer, your mentor is not compensated for graduating you. However there are many mentors, myself included, that still take them on as students because we like to and want to help. Also, when a review is submitted for editing, it goes in a queue. You can't direct your review be edited by anyone in particular. Lastly (I can't check because I'm on my phone) but if you have a rank greater than 5.5, your review auto-publishes and bypasses the editing program. less

I can't really understand why anyone has a problem with editors getting paid so many points. Yes, I agree, it's a lot of points. But it is basically a paying job. We're just being paid in points. I feel like some people are saying editors shouldn't be getting so many points, but I don't see how it matters to anyone besides the people receiving the points. How does it affect anyone besides the editors? My getting 50, 250, 400, whatever points for editing something doesn't cause any inconvenience for anyone else. I'm not going to say anyone else should be paid less for what they do, be it videos, mentoring, reviewing, editing, etc, because it doesn't affect me.

I can, however, see raising the point rewards for mentors and whatnot. They do a lot of hard work. I don't have any first hand experience with the whole process, but I do feel they are an invaluable resource. A lot of the time, reviewers who have been with a mentor write much better reviews. Maybe not always, but a lot of the time.

I'm sorry if I seem bitchy. I'm really not trying to be. That's just how I feel about all of it. Plus, I haven't had any coffee yet, started a new job today, and am pretty sleep deprived. less

@ Kindred:
Thank you for clarifying. I had misunderstood.

@ BBW Talks Toys:
Even the most polished reviewers can use an extra set of eyes on occasion. Just sayin'.


If I am reading correctly, as an "advanced" reviewer, I'm costing my mentor points. All of my reviews are "extended template" reviews — well, except for that one where I screwed up and couldn't change it — so if she was simply an editor she could earn up to 1600 points for editing four reviews. However as a mentor, at most she'll earn 500 points for her work. Every review she provides encouragement, feedback and corrections for actually lowers her per-review reward (500 ÷ 4 = 125/pr, 500 ÷ 8 = 62.5/pr). It's almost like EF is giving her incentive to get rid of me. less

I can't really understand why anyone has a problem with editors getting paid so many points. Yes, I agree, it's a lot of points. But it is basically a paying job. We're just being paid in points. I feel like some people are saying editors shouldn't be getting so many points, but I don't see how it matters to anyone besides the people receiving the points. How does it affect anyone besides the editors? My getting 50, 250, 400, whatever points for editing something doesn't cause any inconvenience for anyone else. I'm not going to say anyone else should be paid less for what they do, be it videos, mentoring, reviewing, editing, etc, because it doesn't affect me.

I can, however, see raising the point rewards for mentors and whatnot. They do a lot of hard work. I don't have any first hand experience with the whole process, but I do feel they are an invaluable resource. A lot of the time, reviewers who have been with a mentor write much better reviews. Maybe not always, but a lot of the time.

I'm sorry if I seem bitchy. I'm really not trying to be. That's just how I feel about all of it. Plus, I haven't had any coffee yet, started a new job today, and am pretty sleep deprived. less

Not exactly correct. As an Advanced Reviewer, your mentor is not compensated for graduating you. However there are many mentors, myself included, that still take them on as students because we like to and want to help. Also, when a review is submitted for editing, it goes in a queue. You can't direct your review be edited by anyone in particular. Lastly (I can't check because I'm on my phone) but if you have a rank greater than 5.5, your review auto-publishes and bypasses the editing program. less

@ Kindred:
Thank you for clarifying. I had misunderstood.

@ BBW Talks Toys:
Even the most polished reviewers can use an extra set of eyes on occasion. Just sayin'.


If I am reading correctly, as an "advanced" reviewer, I'm costing my mentor points. All of my reviews are "extended template" reviews — well, except for that one where I screwed up and couldn't change it — so if she was simply an editor she could earn up to 1600 points for editing four reviews. However as a mentor, at most she'll earn 500 points for her work. Every review she provides encouragement, feedback and corrections for actually lowers her per-review reward (500 ÷ 4 = 125/pr, 500 ÷ 8 = 62.5/pr). It's almost like EF is giving her incentive to get rid of me. less

I don't think that the editors shouldn't be compensated. I think their compensation is quite fair. I just think that in comparison to mentoring, it's a little unbalanced since mentors don't get compensated by the student, not by the review. It's a LOT of work to mentor and if you have brand-spanking new reviewers who haven't gone up for community upgrade, the $5 in gift cards is a little unbalanced for all the work you put in. The reviews we receive are often just as bad as the ones the editors have, plus we're offering our feedback, advice, and helping them become better reviewers; which also makes the editors' jobs easier.

I don't want it to sound as if I am point/gc hungry. I'm not. I take very few students anymore, and have cut down a lot on my reviewing/videos/EC articles, etc. Some of that is circumstantial, but mostly it's choice. It's just the way I see it. I may have a skewed POV though. My brain isn't exactly functioning the way I'd like lately. less

I don't think that the editors shouldn't be compensated. I think their compensation is quite fair. I just think that in comparison to mentoring, it's a little unbalanced since mentors don't get compensated by the student, not by the review. It's a LOT of work to mentor and if you have brand-spanking new reviewers who haven't gone up for community upgrade, the $5 in gift cards is a little unbalanced for all the work you put in. The reviews we receive are often just as bad as the ones the editors have, plus we're offering our feedback, advice, and helping them become better reviewers; which also makes the editors' jobs easier.

I don't want it to sound as if I am point/gc hungry. I'm not. I take very few students anymore, and have cut down a lot on my reviewing/videos/EC articles, etc. Some of that is circumstantial, but mostly it's choice. It's just the way I see it. I may have a skewed POV though. My brain isn't exactly functioning the way I'd like lately. less

Not exactly correct. As an Advanced Reviewer, your mentor is not compensated for graduating you. However there are many mentors, myself included, that still take them on as students because we like to and want to help. Also, when a review is submitted for editing, it goes in a queue. You can't direct your review be edited by anyone in particular. Lastly (I can't check because I'm on my phone) but if you have a rank greater than 5.5, your review auto-publishes and bypasses the editing program. less

Call me crazy, but I shudder at auto-publishing. I *LIKE* knowing someone else will take a look at my review and hopefully catch any errors I missed.

By the way, I want to make it clear my mentor has been an absolute doll. She is extremely helpful and encouraging, and has never said a thing about the points (or lack thereof) for mentoring an advanced student. It is simply my opinion that everyone would benefit in the long run if EF did more to encourage mentoring. As the points system functions now, it's easier, quicker and more lucrative to do things like set lures and start Twix vs Snickers polls. less

Call me crazy, but I shudder at auto-publishing. I *LIKE* knowing someone else will take a look at my review and hopefully catch any errors I missed.

By the way, I want to make it clear my mentor has been an absolute doll. She is extremely helpful and encouraging, and has never said a thing about the points (or lack thereof) for mentoring an advanced student. It is simply my opinion that everyone would benefit in the long run if EF did more to encourage mentoring. As the points system functions now, it's easier, quicker and more lucrative to do things like set lures and start Twix vs Snickers polls. less

I know what you mean about the auto-publishing. I mean, I don't mind too much that I autopublish, but I feel like just about everyone could use some editing sometimes, including myself. A rank above 5.5 doesn't necessarily mean someone knows about grammar and spelling and whatnot. less

I posted here because I did not want to go off tangent on the new thread discussing changes to the editor program. In regards to spam reviews (when ether are 6+ from the same reviewer), editors will know what I'm talking about, I simply copy/paste the entire line including task #, review title, and reviewer name and email it to JR. the spam reviews have typically been removed very quickly. I should note that I do select a sampled to confirm that they are indeed spam reviews. Perhaps JR can comment if this is how we should continue to notify EF about these spam reviews. less