#EdenTasks - Proofreading Program

Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by Sir
Alright, I decided to compile a list of the faulty tasks (either cannot be edited/published, already published, etc.) because I'm tired of having to click through tons of reviews to find one that needs to be published.



3772, 3781, ... more
Bless you.
04/01/2011
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Yes.

There are TONS of people who write TONS of reviews. That is why this whole EdenTasks has come about in the first place. I work on multiple reviews at a time and publish little by little..

Also Eden does indeed spoil the hell out ... more
i am finally 5.1 ranking! i submitted a request for task editor
04/01/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by mama2007
i am finally 5.1 ranking! i submitted a request for task editor
As JR posted yesterday:


"As it stands now, we're not accepting more editors right now."
04/01/2011
Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Same here. I tried twice to get into the program; the first time I assumed it was because they were still doing test runs of it. The second time, well, I don't know. I wonder if it's because I'm already a mentor?

I would rather do ... more
Interesting. I assumed that one of the reasons I was rejected was that I'm NOT a mentor. I thought maybe they're looking for people who are already helping people with writing.

Its frustrating to have no clue about the reason for rejection.
04/01/2011
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
Right now we aren't accepting any new proofreaders for EdenTasks, so if you aren't accepted or declined right away, we do have your request, but we are keeping it on file.
04/01/2011
Contributor: Dusk Dusk
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Originally posted by Sammi
Right now we aren't accepting any new proofreaders for EdenTasks, so if you aren't accepted or declined right away, we do have your request, but we are keeping it on file.
Okay. Is there some way to get on a waiting list? This is definitely something I want to do once space opens up. I'm trying to find ways to be more involved in the community without writing a ridiculous amount of reviews (unlike Lauren, I just don't have the space for that much! Haha )
04/04/2011
Contributor: Selective Sensualist Selective Sensualist
I have scoured the Offsite Review Requirements page, but I am still left with questions. link

Is it okay for an off-site reviewer to link their readers to another online retailer (a competitor) to purchase the product? Also, does a SexIs article count as one of the two required links to Eden?

Five days ago, I picked up an offsite review to edit it, but I released it back to the tasks page because the reviewer linked her readers to purchase the item from another online retailer that undersells EF on the product. The only link to EF that I could find was to a SexIs article (so there was only one Eden-related link . . . and I wasn't even sure if a SexIs article counted because I thought the links had to be to the retail part of Eden where potential customers could easily navigate the site to shop). However, the review was still published.

I'm confused. I thought there were supposed to be two links to edenfantasys.com. (And I am even more confused as to why it is okay to route customers elsewhere to purchase the product.)

Could anyone clarify this for me? I've messaged a couple of people to inquire about this but have not received a response. As an editor, I genuinely want to have a better understanding of the offsite review requirements.
04/14/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Selective Sensualist
I have scoured the Offsite Review Requirements page, but I am still left with questions. link



Is it okay for an off-site reviewer to link their readers to another online retailer (a competitor) to purchase the product? Also, does a ... more
Based on Carrie Ann's response in this thread copied below, I edit the title, pro's/con's, summary, and check that the link actually connects to a review.

The problem is, certain bloggers have different arrangements with us. Some have been doing offsites in a specific way for years, well before we put the current guidelines into effect. Some do "HNT" reviews that are primarily images. Some do JUST a video, no text.

NO reviewer has the right to say "you shouldn't have published this at all" and rate someone's editing badly.

The ONLY things you guys can edit (and, hence, the only thing you should be rated on for your editing) are the pros, cons, summary and check that the link leads to an actual blog with a post/review.

Anything that is on the actual site/blog is out of your hands and not your responsibility as editors to deal with. (It would be great if we could have y'all checking for word count and links but the fact of the matter is none of the editors know what arrangement we have with which bloggers so it simply doesn't work to have you do so. It ends up being far too much messing around when the bloggers then email me and say "wtf? I've been doing it this way for 2 years, why did this person tell me I have to do something different?"Winking

So. In short.

Edit pros, cons and summary. Check that the link works. That is all. If something looks bad or incomplete to you, feel free to message either me or Jenn - I do sex blogs, Jenn does regular blogs and mom blogs. We'll take a look. But please don't decline offsite reviews or send them back.
04/14/2011
Contributor: Selective Sensualist Selective Sensualist
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Originally posted by Kindred
Based on Carrie Ann's response in this thread copied below, I edit the title, pro's/con's, summary, and check that the link actually connects to a review.



The problem is, certain bloggers have different arrangements with ... more
Thanks.

So should we not even bother checking the links within the body of the review on the reviewer's blog AT ALL, or are we supposed to check them and then e-mail Carrie Ann or Jenn if something looks remiss with the linking?
04/14/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Selective Sensualist
Thanks.



So should we not even bother checking the links within the body of the review on the reviewer's blog AT ALL, or are we supposed to check them and then e-mail Carrie Ann or Jenn if something looks remiss with the linking?
Carrie Ann or Jenn would have to answer that. To be honest, I never even thought to check that any links were accurate. All I do is check that the review link actually leads to a review and that it looks reasonably legitimate. If in doubt, I would email Carrie Ann and ask.
04/14/2011
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
Just check that the review link goes to their off-site review. The editor can't go through and edit the links in the off-site review, just make sure the requirements are there, let us know if they aren't.

If it's a link in the on-site portion, make sure the formating works and it doesn't look like it goes to a competitor's site.

That's really about it.
04/14/2011
Contributor: Erotica Explorer Erotica Explorer
I don't mean to speak out of turn here, but I believe that opening the editorial process to an audience beyond just the one individual is a good thing. I suspect I'm advocating a wiki-style process that a pool of vetted people could access. In effect, I am advocating for a two-stage review. Rather than the chain to publication being writer->reviewer->publ ication; I am advocating for it to appear as follows: writer->reviewer->memb er of the review pool->publication.

Grammatical, syntax and use errors stand out and make for a particularly deranged reading experience. On the Internet, where text is the primary form of communication, poorly-written copy and reviews stand out in stark contrast to standard writing.

I hate to detract from any reviewer's work or belittle their effort, but if I see more than two or three glaring mistakes, I will start to walk down the ratings list--in accord with the float-over help text.

If errors are egregious, however, I will simply stop reading. It's just not worth my effort, time, and possible butt-hurt that I'd cause the reviewer and editor. If neither writer nor reviewer know that plurals are typically formed with the addition of "s" or "es," rather than an apostrophe, I'm unclear on what help I can really provide.

That said, the English-speaking Western world these days have no idea what to do with apostrophes. And semi-colons? Forget it. This "style" seems a training/work ethic/pride issue rather than tied to any nationality. I digress.

I don't mean to paint with a big brush here; I had a very nice discussion with a member regarding some technical typesetting decisions, and came away richly rewarded.

Rather than punish, I'd like to see an option to make the writing better. Is there any way, outside of the messaging system, that we could flag something for another review, and then come back when the text has received another look? In this way, it would be possible to tone flabby use and diction without being punitive. This would permit the product to shine rather than showcasing writing errors.
04/14/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
I don't know where to go with this so I figure this thread will allow most people to see it and hopefully find the person(s) responsible for the glitches or broken links.

Review #5371 doesn't seem to be up. I click it to proofread it and it just sends me to the my review list page.
05/16/2011
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by Darling Jen
I don't know where to go with this so I figure this thread will allow most people to see it and hopefully find the person(s) responsible for the glitches or broken links.

Review #5371 doesn't seem to be up. I click it to proofread it ... more
Just let me or Gary know and we'll look into it.
05/16/2011
Contributor: tim1724 tim1724
I can confirm that #5371 is definitely not working.
05/16/2011
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
Thanks!

It's being looked into/worked on now.
05/16/2011
Contributor: tim1724 tim1724
I have a question about the proofreading guidelines. A few days ago I sent a review back for revision (because it didn't have a working URL for the offsite review). Should I release the task or hold onto it until they finish the revision? How long should I wait?

The guidelines say the following:
"Each task has a due date of 3 days for reviews and 2 days for follow-up reviews. If you don’t complete the task on-time, it may be unlocked by the administrator and returned back to the Task Market."

Does sending it back for revision count as completing it as far as the due date goes? I don't know how long it's going to take for the reviewer to update the URL and I can't work on any other tasks while I'm waiting, which is somewhat annoying. Should I just release the task myself?
05/20/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by tim1724
I have a question about the proofreading guidelines. A few days ago I sent a review back for revision (because it didn't have a working URL for the offsite review). Should I release the task or hold onto it until they finish the revision? How ... more
You can release the task, but then it is open to anyone else to edit and publish once the reviewer re-submits, in which case you don't get any points. It's up to you whether you want to hold onto it or release it.
05/20/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Erotica Explorer
I don't mean to speak out of turn here, but I believe that opening the editorial process to an audience beyond just the one individual is a good thing. I suspect I'm advocating a wiki-style process that a pool of vetted people could access. ... more
I believe that we are already doing this.

The writers who are not "experienced" enough, or who are new or still working up the ranks, need to get their reviews approved by an editor (which would be the review pool). The process for accepting editors, although a mystery, is very picky and it took me 3 times to get in.

I don't feel like there is punishment for flaws in reviews. There is a thread floating around about making updates to the forum, however, and I feel like your idea of a separate flagging system would fall into that category.
05/20/2011
Contributor: sarki sarki
Does anyone monitor these editors? Cause I have come across 2 that leave a lot to be desired. They did an extremely poor job and these people get paid in points to not do the job properly.

Example - An 'i' instead of 'I' is a pretty stand out mistake to me.


Or is there someone we can report editors to, who are not doing the job properly?
05/26/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by sarki
Does anyone monitor these editors? Cause I have come across 2 that leave a lot to be desired. They did an extremely poor job and these people get paid in points to not do the job properly.

Example - An 'i' instead of 'I' is a ... more
You can rate the Editor's job at the bottom of each review. However, understand that it is the editor's job to make the review readable while still maintaining the writer's voice. It is not the editor's job to make the review 100% grammatically correct. Also, a different person potentially edits the follow-up review from the person that edited the original review. Lastly, try not to be overly harsh. People make mistakes. The main question is was the review understandable.
05/27/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by Kindred
You can rate the Editor's job at the bottom of each review. However, understand that it is the editor's job to make the review readable while still maintaining the writer's voice. It is not the editor's job to make the review 100% ... more
You can also message the editor/author of the review and inform them of the reviews errors if you find them glaring, so they can edit them.
05/27/2011
Contributor: ZenaidaMacroura ZenaidaMacroura
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
You can also message the editor/author of the review and inform them of the reviews errors if you find them glaring, so they can edit them.
This.

If I miss a mistake while editing a review, anyone who notices is more than welcome to message me and let me know. I definitely want to make sure I'm doing the best job I can. I'm pretty sure other editors will feel the same.
05/28/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by ZenaidaMacroura
This.

If I miss a mistake while editing a review, anyone who notices is more than welcome to message me and let me know. I definitely want to make sure I'm doing the best job I can. I'm pretty sure other editors will feel the same.
+1.

Also, I have yet to come across any review that was edited poorly. Some of the reviews that roll in are so riddled with errors that they are barely readable, and when that happens it is highly possible to overlook a few things.
06/01/2011
Contributor: catalunalilith catalunalilith
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Originally posted by Gary
Q: What is Eden Tasks?

A: Eden Tasks is a new ‘Market Place’ that allows contributors to earn points through performing various tasks posted by EF.

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Q: What is the ‘Review Proofreading’ task?

A: The ‘Review ... more
this sounds like a great program!
06/21/2011
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
any idea when you'll be looking for new 'hires'?


i'm impatient and want to edit! the english major in me is taking over...

07/06/2011
Contributor: M121212 M121212
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Originally posted by aliceinthehole
any idea when you'll be looking for new 'hires'?


i'm impatient and want to edit! the english major in me is taking over...

I'm curious as well.
07/06/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
Okay, I dont ever remember reading the answer to this question in this thread, but I'm not going to go back and reread all 17 pages...


What is the determining factor of how many points a review gets (what makes a review worth 400 points, rather than 250?)
07/21/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
Okay, I dont ever remember reading the answer to this question in this thread, but I'm not going to go back and reread all 17 pages...


What is the determining factor of how many points a review gets (what makes a review worth 400 ... more
I think it's the standard versus extended template.
07/22/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Darling Jen
I think it's the standard versus extended template.
Correct.
07/22/2011