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Eden Flicks/Eden Kink Discussion: Secretary. January 17 at 8 PM EDT

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Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Honestly just from seeing previews of this movie, I thought it was closer to porn. Your thoughts make me want to sit down and really watch it. Sounds very interesting.
There is VERY.LITTLE. Nudity (if any????) in the movie at all. It's more about their relationship than their sex life. But it is pretty hot.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Same here.., although I am trying to stay active in the convo.
I'm much more of a lurker in general. I always read whole meetings, although I don't always have much to add to them.
01/17/2012
Contributor: biancajames biancajames
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
Ah, I wasn't aware they institutionalized for cutting, but it makes sense, I suppose. I guess I'll sit back and listen to the discussion then watch the movie next chance I get if it isn't likely to trigger me.
I would imagine it would depend on how serious the cutting is. It's usually symptomatic of a bigger Dx. What I do think this brings up is the ways people use kink to battle their demons or work through/perpetuate their issues.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I was wondering if there was something else wrong, I didn't think they put you in mental institutions for just that.
I think she almost died? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
01/17/2012
Contributor: biancajames biancajames
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
I keep meaning to pick it up, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Have you read it?
I really liked it but it's quite different from the movie. Not as overtly kinky but I still found it perversely erotic.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
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Originally posted by biancajames
I would imagine it would depend on how serious the cutting is. It's usually symptomatic of a bigger Dx. What I do think this brings up is the ways people use kink to battle their demons or work through/perpetuate their issues.
"What I do think this brings up is the ways people use kink to battle their demons or work through/perpetuate their issues. "

Can you expand on that a little bit? I want to make sure I understand what you mean
01/17/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
Ah, I wasn't aware they institutionalized for cutting, but it makes sense, I suppose. I guess I'll sit back and listen to the discussion then watch the movie next chance I get if it isn't likely to trigger me.
To be completely honest, I didn't feel like the cutting was too graphic. It's more the knowledge that it's happening more so than the actual cutting. They do, actually, institutionalize for cutting, same as with ED... for the same reasons.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Tori Rebel Tori Rebel
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
I think she almost died? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
She cut too deep...they show the memory scene of her doing dishes and admitting how long she'd been cutting. At that point I would assume she almost died or that the medical field saw it as a direct suicide attempt and she was institutionalized for that.
01/17/2012
Contributor: biancajames biancajames
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Originally posted by winterseve
I highly suggest you see it asap. The first time I saw it and before I was into BDSM I was like "okay, that was good". Then after I started getting into BDSM I was like "damn, that was hot and so sweet". I LOVE this movie.
I kind of ambivalent about people forming an impression of what kink is like based solely on this movie though.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
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Originally posted by Serenesub
"What I do think this brings up is the ways people use kink to battle their demons or work through/perpetuate their issues. "

Can you expand on that a little bit? I want to make sure I understand what you mean
Yes, please!
01/17/2012
Contributor: winterseve winterseve
It the story called "The Secretary" or is it a different name?
01/17/2012
Contributor: AndroAngel AndroAngel
I can get the whole cutting for masochistic pleasure thing, I've been there.

I'm not sure how I feel about the abusive father, though, it strikes me as a reaffirmation of the negative stereotypes the kinky often face.
01/17/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
To be completely honest, I didn't feel like the cutting was too graphic. It's more the knowledge that it's happening more so than the actual cutting. They do, actually, institutionalize for cutting, same as with ED... for the same reasons.
ED???
01/17/2012
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I was wondering if there was something else wrong, I didn't think they put you in mental institutions for just that.
They can if they believe you're a danger to yourself and/or others.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by winterseve
I highly suggest you see it asap. The first time I saw it and before I was into BDSM I was like "okay, that was good". Then after I started getting into BDSM I was like "damn, that was hot and so sweet". I LOVE this movie.
I will definitely have to try and find some time to watch it then!
01/17/2012
Contributor: Sapphire Pet Sapphire Pet
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I was wondering if there was something else wrong, I didn't think they put you in mental institutions for just that.
It shows where her parents were arguing and her mom turns her back. Lee knows she only has a second and ends up cutting too deep in her hast. So basically she's there because of a "suicide attempt".
01/17/2012
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
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Originally posted by biancajames
I kind of ambivalent about people forming an impression of what kink is like based solely on this movie though.
Yeah, that's always bothered me as well.
01/17/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
I think she almost died? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I think so. There's a line about "A slip of the hand" and "cutting deeper than I intended." along those lines
01/17/2012
Contributor: winterseve winterseve
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Originally posted by biancajames
I kind of ambivalent about people forming an impression of what kink is like based solely on this movie though.
oh of course. It only touches into the whole field of kink. Just like that I could understand the dynamic and subject and appreciate it so much more.
01/17/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Sapphire Pet
It shows where her parents were arguing and her mom turns her back. Lee knows she only has a second and ends up cutting too deep in her hast. So basically she's there because of a "suicide attempt".
AAhh, now that I can see. Many cutters aren't suicidal though, right???
01/17/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
ED???
eating disorders
01/17/2012
Contributor: Tori Rebel Tori Rebel
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Originally posted by biancajames
I kind of ambivalent about people forming an impression of what kink is like based solely on this movie though.
I have to agree with you on that...if people are not involved and not at all familiar with this lifestyle, the movie can give the impression that every sub is Lee and every dominant/domme is Mr. Grey and that every relationship includes their activities and their rules and repercussions. But for those that understand that all dynamics are different and all involve different aspects of the lifestyle, it's an interesting little window to peek through just to see the progression.
01/17/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
AAhh, now that I can see. Many cutters aren't suicidal though, right???
right
01/17/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
eating disorders
ok, for some reason I was thinking Erectile dysfunction and I thought THEY CAN LOCK YOU UP FOR THAT???
01/17/2012
Contributor: biancajames biancajames
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Originally posted by Serenesub
"What I do think this brings up is the ways people use kink to battle their demons or work through/perpetuate their issues. "

Can you expand on that a little bit? I want to make sure I understand what you mean
People engage in kink for countless reasons (and I am speaking as a lifelong kinkster). Sometimes people will use kink to work through trauma, cope with depression or anxiety, etc. and it can be done in healthy AND unhealthy ways...For example when I was 26 I desperately wanted to be collared because I felt so aimless and unhappy, and wanted a Dom to run my life for me. 5 years later I'm really glad it didn't happen because that's a not a great place to start a D/s relationship from in my opinion, and I think it might have inhibited my personal growth. But of course, everyone has their own personal reasons for participating in kinky relationships.
01/17/2012
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
eating disorders
Okay, does it say something about me that I seen ED and thought "Erectile Disfunction" ... Eating disorders make so much more sense.
01/17/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
I can get the whole cutting for masochistic pleasure thing, I've been there.

I'm not sure how I feel about the abusive father, though, it strikes me as a reaffirmation of the negative stereotypes the kinky often face.
I have things to say about this. Just hold that thought!
01/17/2012
Contributor: Sapphire Pet Sapphire Pet
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
AAhh, now that I can see. Many cutters aren't suicidal though, right???
Right! Most cutters are NOT suicidal at all. They see it as a release valve so to speak. But in this case because it was a "slip" they institutionalized her "for her safety"
01/17/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Serenesub
Okay, does it say something about me that I seen ED and thought "Erectile Disfunction" ... Eating disorders make so much more sense.
LOL, me too
01/17/2012
Contributor: Tori Rebel Tori Rebel
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
AAhh, now that I can see. Many cutters aren't suicidal though, right???
Many have no intention of killing themselves - instead they either enjoy the rush of the pain or they do it to feel something because the pain of their lives has taken over everything else. There are some that fall into both categories of course though.
01/17/2012