Though I feel confident in my own contributions, that doesn't mean you won't instantly remove my points because I went through a suspension a couple months ago. You clearly stated in your first message that those of us who have been through a suspension would not be allowed to get our points back.

So, feeling secure in my own actions or not, how am I to know that you're not going to instantly remove them for that simple fact?

I have written 515 high quality, useful and educational reviews for Eden in the last 2 years and 22 days. All but a couple of the items were purchased from EF either in points, as an assignment or with cash. I have placed 130 orders in 24.75 months. I own another 106 items I have not reviewed as of this time. I have had 98 classes as a mentor, written 18 articles for Sexis, been the top ranked member of the whole site for a couple months and in the top 4 since then. I regularly go well over any of the low allotments on 'point' tasks and I have been a loyal and very supportive member of Eden--above and beyond being a basic member.

I can write 1-3 Sexis articles, 5 high quality, useful and educational reviews, AND participate on the site, mentor my students, run my retail business and do the work on my other two computer businesses daily with no problem. I am a very productive, eloquent and highly educated woman who budgets her time wisely. (And after purchasing, using and reviewing over 500 products from YOUR business--yes, I am a professional reviewer. Wouldn't you think so? After all, it is fully documented here on Eden.) And no, we have never been introduced, so you would not know me.

I will put my points and ability to be a member here to the test and will be the first one to accept your proposal. On a one to one basis-I only answer for myself, not the rest of the community. I figured that since I have 515 items you will need to pair with my reviews, it may take a bit of time to research and read them all. (Please excuse the pictures of the items included on the reviews, I am not a professional photographer, neither is my husband-he had to take the lingerie pictures.)

It is nice to finally get to met the owner of this site and I do hope you can bend a bit and work with the members who are here and trying to help you rebuild the integrity and trust back up. As a fellow business owner I realize how much time is taken up with the analyticals, P&L financials, diversifying and trimming components and aspects of a business to make it viable--I do this weekly and monthly as well.

Point earning on eden- The ultimate catch 22

Out if you don't don't submit one and out when he switches up the rules again to show everyone is a point farmer.

I agree with parts of this and disagree with parts. Rating and commenting on reviews should not be considered point farming. If you think that some products are are nonsense for reviews that make those where reviews can not be written on them. Other forums that I have for gaming have a thread where you can play spam games but they dont count as forum posts. Maybe we could have a place to have our fun useless discussions and we dont get points for it. And if you would change the points for some it should be for all. Everyone should be treated the same.

Yep, here at EdenFantasys, as long as it's deleted, it NEVER happened.
Anything that speaks the truth, calls him out or calls Stormy out will ultimately be deleted.

Amnesty week was well after the staff was terminated, and as the person ultimately responsible for your business--the decisions and responsibility for the site functions, activities and guidelines are yours. I really appreciated the opportunity, but would rather have had you give us a choice of earning those points or helping to cut the costs of the site to make it more viable and financially secure.

If we would have had an opportunity to make the choice--most of your members would have chosen to forego the points until Eden was more stable. As a matter of fact, there are a few that would have been happy to volunteer--free of charge or points to help you out. That is what communities do, we support each other and value what the other has to offer as a person.

That's a huge relief! I've been stressing out over that for a while. I probably won't submit myself as I have very few points in my account, but I'm glad other people won't have to worry!

Thank you for the discussion, please listen to some of our points so a compromise can be reached. There has been so much instability and half truths that the trust factor has been seriously damaged.

Maybe if you gave the members a chance to show you they are good people who honestly care about the site and are proud of their contributions, they would also give you the chance to show us that you can work with them and compromise for the good of the business.

Still hoping for an actual answer:

Though I feel confident in my own contributions, that doesn't mean you won't instantly remove my points because I went through a suspension a couple months ago. You clearly stated in your first message that those of us who have been through a suspension would not be allowed to get our points back.

So, feeling secure in my own actions or not, how am I to know that you're not going to instantly remove them for that simple fact?

I personally would have tried to help. As a college student, I might not have the most money but I would still have kept posting (without any points) just to keep traffic up in here. Making orders when I could and trying to use real money on at least shipping and not taking free toys if I knew that could help.

What I don't respect is being slapped in the face and being all called point farmers, lying to us, and then giving outrageous demands from things we can't change while you dangle the points we already earned over our heads.

I think we can all agree that Fred went at this all wrong, something he's notorious for, instead of just fessing up to the things he's done wrong and just ask for help from the community. It's a shame since this place had so much potential.

please answer my question first...