#Workshop - June 29th @ 9pm - Grammar Workshop

Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by bluekaren
Good stuff from cherryredhead88. I always thought I used commas too much. Turns out I write the way I talk, with with pauses here and there.
I worry about overusing them as well, I was never great in school when it came to writing and grammar.
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Edit to the above post:




However, don't put a comma after the main clause when a dependent clause (something that can't stand alone) follows it (except for cases of extreme contrast).

Incorrect: She was late for class, because her alarm clock was broken.

Incorrect: The cat scratched at the door, while I was eating.

Correct: She was still quite upset, although she had won the Oscar. (This comma use is correct because it is an example of extreme contrast)
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Antipova
I usually test the first week, and mentally plan the review. I usually write the review during a day in the second week, and then let it sit in my drafts overnight so I can recheck my grammar and spelling before I publish.
That's a great strategy! *makes a mental note to write that down, especially the part about letting it sit overnight*
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
You can also start your review in the experience box and move up to the big box later. I used to do the jibberish thing but I discovered that I ended up repeating myself in reviews because I just copy and pasted what I had written already.
Ooh, that's a great idea too! Y'all are helping me out immensely! Thank you!
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Common introductory phrases that should be followed by a comma :

Having finished the test, he left the room.

To get a seat, you'd better come early.

After the test but before lunch, I went jogging.

The sun radiating intense heat, we sought shelter in the cafe.


Common introductory words that should be followed by a comma:

Well, perhaps he meant no harm.

Yes, the package should arrive tomorrow morning.

However, you may not be satisfied with the results.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
Quote:
Originally posted by bluekaren
Good stuff from cherryredhead88. I always thought I used commas too much. Turns out I write the way I talk, with with pauses here and there.
Alan's pretty good with comma usage, but I tend to overdo them. If you read one of our reviews and see a long-assed sentence with at least 3 commas in it, you know who wrote that paragraph
06/29/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
I'm still here just taking notes...
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Alright here comes the fun part! (not lol) Commas! I still hate the way OWL words this Quick Comma Guide Sheet because I always have a problem with actually defining parts of a sentence, I have always just known what sounded right or wrong. ... more
I know damn well exactly when to use them -- it's one thing I excel at -- but, still, I have a tendency to misuse or overuse them at times. Le sigh.
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Alright just a couple more tips on the comma usage, I feel like these are the big ones I run into when editing a lot of reviews (and writing my own I'm sure)

Use a pair of commas in the middle of a sentence to set off clauses, phrases, and words that the sentence doesn't need (extra information that you want to include). Use one comma before to indicate the beginning of the pause and one at the end to indicate the end of the pause.

Here are some clues to help you decide whether the sentence element is essential:

*If you leave out the clause, phrase, or word, does the sentence still make sense?

*Does the clause, phrase, or word interrupt the flow of words in the original sentence?

*If you move the element to a different position in the sentence, does the sentence still make sense?

If you answer "yes" to one or more of these questions, then the element in question isn't necessarily needed and should be set off with commas. Here are some example sentences with nonessential elements:

Clause: That Tuesday,which happens to be my birthday, is the only day when I am available to meet.

Phrase: This restaurant has an exciting atmosphere. The food, on the other hand, is rather bland.

Word: I appreciate your hard work. In this case, however, you seem to have over-exerted yourself.


Notice the commas around each clause/word/phrase that isn't needed. If you take these out then the sentence still makes sense.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
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Originally posted by Wondermom
LOL I can't wait to upgrade to a fairy, my mini wand is dying, I think I killed its motor
Oh noes! You're going to love the Fairy though! I have three! The only one I would definitely NOT recommend is the Baby Fairy. The free bullet I got with that order is stronger than it! The thing about rpms is the smaller the pendulum (which is what makes the head vibrate), the less power they actually transfer. So, even though the Baby Fairy has 12,500 rpms, it's simply too damn tiny to do any good.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by bluekaren
I love that you are referencing Owl at Perdue, anything else would gain major scrutiny from me...I am a bit of a geek about grammar.
Yay! So am I, Karen. We should dish grammar during the day one day. I KID!
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Last comma example. Ugh these ones are a pain.

5. Use commas to separate three or more words, phrases, or clauses written in a series (IE a list).

The Constitution establishes the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government.

The candidate promised to lower taxes, protect the environment, reduce crime, and end unemployment.
06/29/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
My biggest issue is semi colons
06/29/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
Quote:
Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
Oh noes! You're going to love the Fairy though! I have three! The only one I would definitely NOT recommend is the Baby Fairy. The free bullet I got with that order is stronger than it! The thing about rpms is the smaller the pendulum (which is ... more
yeah, I have been on the fence about it because of its size. I was thinking of it as a gift for a friend but I will probably get something else.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by Wondermom
I worry about overusing them as well, I was never great in school when it came to writing and grammar.
Even if it happens to be your forte, it's still a huge challenge. So, don't sweat it.
06/29/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
Quote:
Originally posted by Wondermom
yeah, I have been on the fence about it because of its size. I was thinking of it as a gift for a friend but I will probably get something else.
I have the Fiary Baby and while I love that it charges on your USB port and the size. Its kind of buzzy and runs down quickly.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Last comma example. Ugh these ones are a pain.

5. Use commas to separate three or more words, phrases, or clauses written in a series (IE a list).

The Constitution establishes the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of ... more
I <3 the series comma.

All the academic standards vary, depending on which journal you're submitting a paper to. I am *so everlovin' glad* I joined a professional society that supports the series comma.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
Quote:
Originally posted by sexyintexas
My biggest issue is semi colons
Quick way to remember that is if you are joining two independent clauses and decide to skip the conjunction, you need a semi colon
06/29/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
Quote:
Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Quick way to remember that is if you are joining two independent clauses and decide to skip the conjunction, you need a semi colon
Thanks, taking notes still. These should come in handy helping the kids with papers as well.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
Quote:
Originally posted by sexyintexas
I have the Fiary Baby and while I love that it charges on your USB port and the size. Its kind of buzzy and runs down quickly.
would you recommend it for a beginner with toys who is looking for extremely discreet, her husband doesn't like toys.
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
Oh noes! You're going to love the Fairy though! I have three! The only one I would definitely NOT recommend is the Baby Fairy. The free bullet I got with that order is stronger than it! The thing about rpms is the smaller the pendulum (which is ... more
I have the Fairy wand and I absolutely love it! Works great for deep muscle massage too

I'm not sure how much more time we have but I do want to touch on one last thing: SPELLING!

So many times do I see misspelled words.

Accept, Except

accept = verb meaning to receive or to agree:
He accepted their praise graciously.

except = preposition meaning all but, other than:
Everyone went to the game except Alyson.


Its, It's

its = possessive adjective (possesive form of the
pronoun it):
The crab had an unusual growth on its shell.

it's = contraction for it is or it has (in a verb phrase):
It's still raining; it's been raining for three days. (Pronouns have apostrophes only when two words are being shortened into one.)



Affect, Effect

affect = verb meaning to influence:
Will lack of sleep affect your game?

effect = noun meaning result or consequence:
Will lack of sleep have an effect on your game?

effect = verb meaning to bring about, to accomplish:
Our efforts have effected a major change in university policy.


Their, There, They're

Their = possessive pronoun:
They got their books.

There = that place:
My house is over there.
(This is a place word, and so it contains the word here.)

They're = contraction for they are:
They're making dinner.
(Pronouns have apostrophes only when two words are being shortened into one.)


To, Too, Two

To = preposition, or first part of the infinitive form of a verb:
They went to the lake to swim.

Too = very, also:
I was too tired to continue. I was hungry, too.

Two = the number 2:
Two students scored below passing on the exam.



Your, You're

Your = possessive pronoun:
Your shoes are untied.

You're = contraction for you are:
You're walking around with your shoes untied.
(Pronouns have apostrophes only when two words are being shortened into one.)


And the last one I see commonly misspelled:

discreet or discrete?
If it’s easy to hide, it’s discreet. If it’s something that’s separate or distinct, it’s discrete. A lipstick-shaped vibrator is discreet, while another toy may have two motors that offer discrete vibrations.


The last one was taken from the Editing Guidelines off of Eden. It is a great place to get information about common review errors here on the site!
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
I have the Fairy wand and I absolutely love it! Works great for deep muscle massage too

I'm not sure how much more time we have but I do want to touch on one last thing: SPELLING!

So many times do I see misspelled words.

... more
This one, I KNOW! Yay! Actually, tomorrow night, I'm going to a spelling bee at a local bar/art gallery. For every correctly spelled word you get a free beer. I do't expect to be spending much money on beer.
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by sexyintexas
My biggest issue is semi colons
Here is a link just for you! Commas vs semicolons
06/29/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
Quote:
Originally posted by Wondermom
would you recommend it for a beginner with toys who is looking for extremely discreet, her husband doesn't like toys.
It will fit on your keychain or zipper-pull. You can easily tuck it in a make-up bag or pocket. No one should know what it is. It's not really quiet though so you have to keep it behind closed doors.
06/29/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Here is a link just for you! Commas vs semicolons
Thanks, I need this!
06/29/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
This one, I KNOW! Yay! Actually, tomorrow night, I'm going to a spelling bee at a local bar/art gallery. For every correctly spelled word you get a free beer. I do't expect to be spending much money on beer.
Ooh, I would so love to go to one of those. I think I'd get a lot of free beer too
06/29/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
This one, I KNOW! Yay! Actually, tomorrow night, I'm going to a spelling bee at a local bar/art gallery. For every correctly spelled word you get a free beer. I do't expect to be spending much money on beer.
That is awesome! I love that kind of stuff, I am pretty good at spelling although I have gotten pretty rusty lately.
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
Ooh, I would so love to go to one of those. I think I'd get a lot of free beer too
Hi5! I wish I could bring you with me! How about you email yourself to me?
06/29/2011
Contributor: Kake aka PoeticErotica Kake aka PoeticErotica
Quote:
Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Here is a link just for you! Commas vs semicolons
Ooh, I could use that as well! Thank you!
06/29/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Kake aka PoeticErotica
Hi5! I wish I could bring you with me! How about you email yourself to me?
Pshh, I wish!

But tomorrow night is also hangout night at Denny's. You'd have a great time there too
06/29/2011