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Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Opening Up and Three-Way Erotic Stories (December 28, 7-11 EST)
12/28/2010
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Oooh... I want to see that.
Originally posted by
LicentiouslyYours
yay! (finally!!) Someone should spank you for being late.
Even tops need spanking sometimes!
Even tops need spanking sometimes!
12/28/2010
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I am totally okay with that. Since I own like..half of EF's BDSM selection, it'll work out great.
Originally posted by
Sammi
Ha - I suspect we'll all line up then
12/28/2010
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I got the recessive male chromosome then...
Originally posted by
LicentiouslyYours
I agree. I don't think anything is accomplished, no greater understanding of human behavior is achieved when we make claims like "humans are wired for this or that is in our DNA...(this reminds me of a post I read recently from some guy who
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I agree. I don't think anything is accomplished, no greater understanding of human behavior is achieved when we make claims like "humans are wired for this or that is in our DNA...(this reminds me of a post I read recently from some guy who claimed submission was programmed into a woman's DNA, or not, but I wonder which chromosome is the submissive one).
I think human beings are, because of their sentient abilities, capable of whatever they desire to be. Limiting ourselves by claiming we are meant by biology to be just a particular way (when so many successfully flout this "way" ) just makes me crabby.
Man, I'm sleepy, I hope that made sense. I am typing with my fingers tonight, the brain is not involved at all. less
I think human beings are, because of their sentient abilities, capable of whatever they desire to be. Limiting ourselves by claiming we are meant by biology to be just a particular way (when so many successfully flout this "way" ) just makes me crabby.
Man, I'm sleepy, I hope that made sense. I am typing with my fingers tonight, the brain is not involved at all. less
When I was younger I thought the best way to defend my right to live my life as I saw fit was to make everyone else wrong.
To me it's the kind of logic she uses in her book. It doesn't make her right even if it is true because your life and love style should be consciously chosen and that takes preprogramming out of the equation.
12/28/2010
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A veritable chorus of "Now do me!" and "MY TURN!"
Originally posted by
LicentiouslyYours
LMAO.. so true
After five minutes of punishment I'd be all "ok, where's mine???"
After five minutes of punishment I'd be all "ok, where's mine???"
12/28/2010
I love the way everyone perked up at the mention of spankings.
"Punishment? What! Where!"
"Punishment? What! Where!"
12/28/2010
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I am an unashamed switch...it could go either way with me but if I am in a foul mood the guys put away the paddles and floggers.
Originally posted by
Kayla
I fully disagree. When I do something wrong, someone else gets spanked.
12/28/2010
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I cant remember now if it was the Ethical Slut or Opening Up, but one of them (or both possibly) explored the idea that relationships don't really have parameters that make them relationships. Even a one night stand is a brief relationship between two people.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
We sell a crappy book about how to have a threesome but unless you are looking for a plan on how NOT to arrange a group situation I don't recommend it.
I don't think BDSM relationships qualify as open...they usually are pretty scripted ... more
I don't think BDSM relationships qualify as open...they usually are pretty scripted ... more
We sell a crappy book about how to have a threesome but unless you are looking for a plan on how NOT to arrange a group situation I don't recommend it.
I don't think BDSM relationships qualify as open...they usually are pretty scripted and governed. As you know lots don't include actual sex and seem to be as damaging to an otherwise healthy relationship as say being in the local theater group. It CAN be quite time consuming though. I suppose if it becomes a situation where you are emotionally or physically invested in the reltaionship it could be either open or even full on poly. less
I don't think BDSM relationships qualify as open...they usually are pretty scripted and governed. As you know lots don't include actual sex and seem to be as damaging to an otherwise healthy relationship as say being in the local theater group. It CAN be quite time consuming though. I suppose if it becomes a situation where you are emotionally or physically invested in the reltaionship it could be either open or even full on poly. less
I have relationships with a few people that are actually quite limited in their sexual contact, for a variety of reasons, however there is still a relationship dynamic, an intimacy that exists that makes me consider it a relationship (although not my primary one).
I suppose it call comes down to terminology. When I use "open" I refer to all forms of relationships that involved more than 2 people in some capacity, however limited.
12/28/2010
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I just use it to refer to the idea of two people who are in a relationship choosing to involve other parties.
Originally posted by
LicentiouslyYours
I cant remember now if it was the Ethical Slut or Opening Up, but one of them (or both possibly) explored the idea that relationships don't really have parameters that make them relationships. Even a one night stand is a brief relationship
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I cant remember now if it was the Ethical Slut or Opening Up, but one of them (or both possibly) explored the idea that relationships don't really have parameters that make them relationships. Even a one night stand is a brief relationship between two people.
I have relationships with a few people that are actually quite limited in their sexual contact, for a variety of reasons, however there is still a relationship dynamic, an intimacy that exists that makes me consider it a relationship (although not my primary one).
I suppose it call comes down to terminology. When I use "open" I refer to all forms of relationships that involved more than 2 people in some capacity, however limited. less
I have relationships with a few people that are actually quite limited in their sexual contact, for a variety of reasons, however there is still a relationship dynamic, an intimacy that exists that makes me consider it a relationship (although not my primary one).
I suppose it call comes down to terminology. When I use "open" I refer to all forms of relationships that involved more than 2 people in some capacity, however limited. less
I'm totally watching "Love and Marriage" right now. It's our Porn Club selection. Not sure if I like it.
12/28/2010
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I'm working on it...it took a long time for Sigel to be comfortable with me owning BDSM gear.
Originally posted by
Kayla
I am totally okay with that. Since I own like..half of EF's BDSM selection, it'll work out great.
12/28/2010
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I am waiting till the kids pass out and then I'm planning to watch one of mine as well.
Originally posted by
Kayla
I just use it to refer to the idea of two people who are in a relationship choosing to involve other parties.
I'm totally watching "Love and Marriage" right now. It's our Porn Club selection. Not sure if I like it.
I'm totally watching "Love and Marriage" right now. It's our Porn Club selection. Not sure if I like it.
12/28/2010
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Yes, spankings... I'm in!!
Originally posted by
clp
I love the way everyone perked up at the mention of spankings.
"Punishment? What! Where!"
"Punishment? What! Where!"
12/28/2010
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I can't wait to watch it!
Originally posted by
Kayla
I just use it to refer to the idea of two people who are in a relationship choosing to involve other parties.
I'm totally watching "Love and Marriage" right now. It's our Porn Club selection. Not sure if I like it.
I'm totally watching "Love and Marriage" right now. It's our Porn Club selection. Not sure if I like it.
12/28/2010
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We started off with BDSM gear which is how I started reviewing sex toys, so our BDSM gear totally overruns everything else. And we're giggling at this porn. We can't watch mainstream porn for arousal anymore. It's too giggle-tastic. Like the couple going into the kitchen to get pie for their guests and having sex for twenty-five minutes. I'd totally be going "How's the pie coming?" But they're neat to watch.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
I am waiting till the kids pass out and then I'm planning to watch one of mine as well.
I liked Girl Talk more than Love & Marriage. This one isn't bad, but it's even less believable and more sound issues.
12/28/2010
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LOL I could imagine the conversation..."Maybe they are whipping the cream by hand? "Is she BAKING the pie right now?" LOL
Originally posted by
Kayla
We started off with BDSM gear which is how I started reviewing sex toys, so our BDSM gear totally overruns everything else. And we're giggling at this porn. We can't watch mainstream porn for arousal anymore. It's too giggle-tastic. Like
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We started off with BDSM gear which is how I started reviewing sex toys, so our BDSM gear totally overruns everything else. And we're giggling at this porn. We can't watch mainstream porn for arousal anymore. It's too giggle-tastic. Like the couple going into the kitchen to get pie for their guests and having sex for twenty-five minutes. I'd totally be going "How's the pie coming?" But they're neat to watch.
I liked Girl Talk more than Love & Marriage. This one isn't bad, but it's even less believable and more sound issues. less
I liked Girl Talk more than Love & Marriage. This one isn't bad, but it's even less believable and more sound issues. less
12/28/2010
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Plot Spoiler: She tells him she wants a divorce while he's pooping on the toilet. It's so lol-tastic I can't take it seriously. Like, trying to have a DVD about divorce should probably not have so many plot holes. x.x
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
LOL I could imagine the conversation..."Maybe they are whipping the cream by hand? "Is she BAKING the pie right now?" LOL
12/28/2010
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Well there's the perfect place to tell someone you want a divorce. Course I was watching one of those real life dramas and the twit had her husband served divorce papers by the sherrif WITHOUT ever telling her husband!
Originally posted by
Kayla
Plot Spoiler: She tells him she wants a divorce while he's pooping on the toilet. It's so lol-tastic I can't take it seriously. Like, trying to have a DVD about divorce should probably not have so many plot holes. x.x
12/28/2010
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That would really suck. I like the sex in this movie, but I always require a believable plot in order to enjoy the movie. We're done watching it though.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
Well there's the perfect place to tell someone you want a divorce. Course I was watching one of those real life dramas and the twit had her husband served divorce papers by the sherrif WITHOUT ever telling her husband!
12/28/2010
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I think the "emotional affair" (often long distance) is just as powerful as the physical relationships one can have. The parameters of the relationship need to be set by the people involved-- I think that's the thing I liked most about Opening Up, it's all about communication and making your own "rules."
Originally posted by
LicentiouslyYours
I cant remember now if it was the Ethical Slut or Opening Up, but one of them (or both possibly) explored the idea that relationships don't really have parameters that make them relationships. Even a one night stand is a brief relationship
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more
I cant remember now if it was the Ethical Slut or Opening Up, but one of them (or both possibly) explored the idea that relationships don't really have parameters that make them relationships. Even a one night stand is a brief relationship between two people.
I have relationships with a few people that are actually quite limited in their sexual contact, for a variety of reasons, however there is still a relationship dynamic, an intimacy that exists that makes me consider it a relationship (although not my primary one).
I suppose it call comes down to terminology. When I use "open" I refer to all forms of relationships that involved more than 2 people in some capacity, however limited. less
I have relationships with a few people that are actually quite limited in their sexual contact, for a variety of reasons, however there is still a relationship dynamic, an intimacy that exists that makes me consider it a relationship (although not my primary one).
I suppose it call comes down to terminology. When I use "open" I refer to all forms of relationships that involved more than 2 people in some capacity, however limited. less
(And sorry I'm popping in and out. Our power keeps flickering because of all the snow. Thankfully it hasn't gone out for more than a few minutes!)
12/28/2010
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All this talk of porn is making me jealous.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
I am waiting till the kids pass out and then I'm planning to watch one of mine as well.
12/28/2010
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Awww. That would suck. I don't know what I'd do without my internet. I'd probably be bored.
Originally posted by
Kristina Wright
I think the "emotional affair" (often long distance) is just as powerful as the physical relationships one can have. The parameters of the relationship need to be set by the people involved-- I think that's the thing I liked most about
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I think the "emotional affair" (often long distance) is just as powerful as the physical relationships one can have. The parameters of the relationship need to be set by the people involved-- I think that's the thing I liked most about Opening Up, it's all about communication and making your own "rules."
(And sorry I'm popping in and out. Our power keeps flickering because of all the snow. Thankfully it hasn't gone out for more than a few minutes!) less
(And sorry I'm popping in and out. Our power keeps flickering because of all the snow. Thankfully it hasn't gone out for more than a few minutes!) less
I liked Opening Up a lot. If anyone asks, that's easily the book I want to recommend to those seeking open relationships.
12/28/2010
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I hate when the power flickers on and off. Ours did the other night twice then we finally lost power. It sucked!
Originally posted by
Kristina Wright
I think the "emotional affair" (often long distance) is just as powerful as the physical relationships one can have. The parameters of the relationship need to be set by the people involved-- I think that's the thing I liked most about
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more
I think the "emotional affair" (often long distance) is just as powerful as the physical relationships one can have. The parameters of the relationship need to be set by the people involved-- I think that's the thing I liked most about Opening Up, it's all about communication and making your own "rules."
(And sorry I'm popping in and out. Our power keeps flickering because of all the snow. Thankfully it hasn't gone out for more than a few minutes!) less
(And sorry I'm popping in and out. Our power keeps flickering because of all the snow. Thankfully it hasn't gone out for more than a few minutes!) less
12/28/2010
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Me too. I need to go watch those DVDs.
Originally posted by
Kristina Wright
All this talk of porn is making me jealous.
12/28/2010
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This is such wonderful advice, Laurel! You need to write your own book!!
Originally posted by
LicentiouslyYours
Don't be hard on yourself. You are not all that different from many other people. It takes practice and some habitual examination of your feelings to train yourself to believe he wants to be with you because he finds reasons in you that make him
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Don't be hard on yourself. You are not all that different from many other people. It takes practice and some habitual examination of your feelings to train yourself to believe he wants to be with you because he finds reasons in you that make him stay.
Finding yourself constantly waiting for him to leave WILL like, eventually result in him doing just that. But having faith in him first requires that you come to understand why he wants to be with you..and believing it to be true.
Not an easy task, but absolutely imperative for you to be happy and content with anyone! less
Finding yourself constantly waiting for him to leave WILL like, eventually result in him doing just that. But having faith in him first requires that you come to understand why he wants to be with you..and believing it to be true.
Not an easy task, but absolutely imperative for you to be happy and content with anyone! less
12/28/2010
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I know a couple of people that would really benefit from this book.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
It is a concept relating to loving the inner child but less fluffy. It deals more with rooting out and flushing the toxic shame which says "I am full of shame and worthless" and replaceing it with words like, "I have done things that I
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It is a concept relating to loving the inner child but less fluffy. It deals more with rooting out and flushing the toxic shame which says "I am full of shame and worthless" and replaceing it with words like, "I have done things that I am ashamed of but I am a good person and worthy of forgiveness and love." I love the concept and have worked this program for years.
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12/28/2010
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That is really good advice. You could be my therapist.
Originally posted by
Kristina Wright
This is such wonderful advice, Laurel! You need to write your own book!!
12/28/2010
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I agree! Write a book.
Originally posted by
Kristina Wright
This is such wonderful advice, Laurel! You need to write your own book!!
12/28/2010
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Oh... wow. I think you have a perfect set up! Congratulations!
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
It can be amazing if it's done right. With my two guys it is mind blowing. They know what I like and I know what drives them wild. They also now and respect each other's kinks. Just wish it happened more often LOL
12/28/2010
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I don't like the "it's biological" take on polyamory OR monogamy. Human beings are individuals and as such, we're all going to want and crave and need different things. To try to put us all in the same category-- all poly or mono-- is just silly.
Originally posted by
Kayla
Yeah. It was a good look into open relationships - especially since I will probably never be in one. Jor doesn't like the idea of it, and I wouldn't consider BDSM play with other people as an open relationship even though it probably is. I
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Yeah. It was a good look into open relationships - especially since I will probably never be in one. Jor doesn't like the idea of it, and I wouldn't consider BDSM play with other people as an open relationship even though it probably is. I like seeing other's looks into it though. Aside from Opening Up, Ethical Slut, and Open, does EF sell any other open relationships books?
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12/28/2010
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Last time that happened to us and the power went out, I realized I had no accessible flashlights, and only massage candles to burn.
Originally posted by
staceejaxxx
I hate when the power flickers on and off. Ours did the other night twice then we finally lost power. It sucked!
12/28/2010