That is strange, I am not having these issues. I just published my Coquette Review without any issues, and have been working on multiple reviews all day. Hmmm. Maybe it is just a bug that will need to be worked out over time? less

Yeah, I ALWAYS edited my reviews after I clicked "Submit" because the format it was changed to was SO much easier to proofread. I usually edited my reviews between three to five times before they were published.

Also, I post photos in my reviews and sometimes they do not look right, so I have to go back and make little adjustments. There is no way to tell how the photos look before you click "Submit" either. It was quite useful to be able to go back and adjust and then check how it looks on the page before going back to adjust again.

Another time I made a chart that was messed up when I clicked "Submit." I went back to edit it and played around by adding in spaces here and deleting spaces there until the chart was finally fixed. I also had to abbreviate the wording to get everything that I needed on one line since what happened to fit when drafting the review no longer fit on one line once it was published.

I am very sad that we no longer have this opportunity. less

I get what you're saying. I don't think it's a bad idea to remove questionable content (like leaving a TPR toy in a puddle of silicone lube in an exaggerated example); but, I don't think an editor's note is appropriate. It's the writer's review, not the proofreader's. If you add in your own voice, it's like contradicting the writer, thus making the rest of the review a moot point.

When this comes up, leave a comment in the comment section.

Also, the reviews from before the initiation of this program are not included in EdenTasks. less

I agree with a lot of the concerns listed here. This proof-reading program is practical for the EF staff but is super complicated. I hope it all smooths out and ends up working for everyone.

Also, I have no idea if this has anything to do with the program but I submitted a review today and received absolutely no points for it too. I noticed some other people were also having this issue. Maybe they only award them when it's published now? But how are we notified? less

I'm replying to this post initially as I've had the exact same thing, It is far easier to re-read & proof after hitting the submit button. I also sometimes repeat information in the extended template that I don't catch before submitting as it's not easily visible before the format changes following submission.

I know there is a LOT going on with the new changes, but perhaps at some future time maybe something such as a 'quick view' button could be added to the review process allowing us to re-read our reviews in the same format that they would be displayed to others in. With the option to either revise it if we find any errors or submit if we are happy with it. By adding that one extra step to the review submission process I know that my mentors would have had a lot less to have to help me with.

I'm not saying now, but BBW Talks Toys' post reminded me of this problem I've experienced. less

Yet another awesome thing for eden to put out!! I just submitted my application!

I do have a question though, when editing, will we be able to submit it back to the reviewer for reviews or are we just looking for spelling and grammar issues here? I'm a mentor and noticed it working on the submission section as well. So, what exactly are we "looking" for when we edit? Sorry if this is a stupid question. less

This is my concern too, though a bit of a different one. Some of the reviews may not include everything that an editor feels it should have, but are correct as far as grammar and spelling go. These reviews might not necessarily be something that would be highly voted on, so I wonder if this will lead to down votes for editors. less

The problem with that though is that someone asked me through a message about a review's information, asking if I had the ability to change it. If I am rated badly in the voting section because of the reviewer's information, I'm not going to be too happy. I understand what you're saying completely, but I simply do not want to be taken out of the system because of low ratings due to misunderstanding. less

When I was in the mentor program, I never had my reviews edited by my mentors (i.e., there were never any suggestions for changing grammar, punctuation, nor spelling on any of the reviews that I submitted). However, those reviews are now showing up with an editor's rating box.

How are people to know whether the review was even edited for grammar or spelling if they did not see the before and after versions of your review? It is like voting blind. On one review, I only added one additional piece of information after submitting to my mentors, but it had absolutely nothing to do with grammar, punctuation, or spelling. My mentors suggested also listing oil-based lube as a glass-compatible lubricant (I had only mentioned that glass was safe with both silicone and water-based lube). On the second review, I deleted a couple of sentences at the suggestion of my mentors in an effort to try to make the review just a bit shorter after asking for suggestions on what to cut. On the third review, no changes whatsoever were made to my review and my mentors chose to publish it as it was.

At any rate, the suggestions and help that I received was within the scope of mentoring, not editing. An editor and a mentor are two entirely different things.

So is the editing vote for both mentoring and editing? Again, even it was, how in the world would one determine a fair vote unless one reads both the before and after versions? Additionally, I think it would be helpful not to confuse mentoring with editing because not all editors are mentors and it wouldn't be fair to rate the editor with a low score just because the review was not as thorough as the voter would have liked. Besides, we aren't supposed to be voting on mentoring anyway, right?

I had suggested in the earlier thread to include a brief description in the editor rating box explaining exactly what it is that the voter is rating. Also, it would be nice if the editor rating boxes were taken off the old reviews which were published prior to this new program. less

I have a question about the self-publishing aspect of this new program. I just finished my Lip Service review. There's now an option to select a category for a review item if the system couldn't automatically figure it out. Among the options are Erotic Video and Adult DVD.

What's the difference?

I chose Adult DVD and the review didn't auto-publish, just to answer someone's earlier question about that. less

I wanted to ask about something that wasn't really responded to.

I personally did not add more information, but the person suggested the use of suspension with bondage tape, and I made an editor's note saying: "Note: Use of this product for suspension is not recommended. Use with caution," or something of that sort. Is that alright for us to do? I remember that the editors used to add those things into the review without adding or omitting information in order to keep the individual's work still there. less

I agree with a lot of the concerns listed here. This proof-reading program is practical for the EF staff but is super complicated. I hope it all smooths out and ends up working for everyone.

Also, I have no idea if this has anything to do with the program but I submitted a review today and received absolutely no points for it too. I noticed some other people were also having this issue. Maybe they only award them when it's published now? But how are we notified? less

Yeah, I ALWAYS edited my reviews after I clicked "Submit" because the format it was changed to was SO much easier to proofread. I usually edited my reviews between three to five times before they were published.

Also, I post photos in my reviews and sometimes they do not look right, so I have to go back and make little adjustments. There is no way to tell how the photos look before you click "Submit" either. It was quite useful to be able to go back and adjust and then check how it looks on the page before going back to adjust again.

Another time I made a chart that was messed up when I clicked "Submit." I went back to edit it and played around by adding in spaces here and deleting spaces there until the chart was finally fixed. I also had to abbreviate the wording to get everything that I needed on one line since what happened to fit when drafting the review no longer fit on one line once it was published.

I am very sad that we no longer have this opportunity. less

A couple of questions:

1. I was re-reading the Proofreading Program instructions, and saw this:

"FAQs:
* Can I proofread my own reviews?
No, you cannot proofread your own reviews as part of this program. However, if you have a rank higher than 5.5, you are not required to pass through the editorial process and your reviews will be published automatically."

Will this be across the board of every contributor with a ranking higher than 5.5, or will this only be for contributors in the Proofreading Program?

2. Are proofreaders only going to be reviewing assignments, or will it start to include ALL reviews that are submitted? Personally, I think those are the reviews that are the most frustrating to most people to read. less

UG, I just found this out the hard way. I always used to hit "submit" for assignments, then read it (after reading it 100 time while writing) and usually find at least one thing I want to change or add. I also add the "similar products" during the Editing phase of my own reviews. I can't do this now!

So, my last review is now "in limbo" and I can't touch it. I didn't know ALL reviews would be edited. I, for some reason, thought it was only for the Mentor Program.

What am I missing? Am I going to be able to edit my review now, or not? Anybody know? My last review submitted (Lelo Personal Moisturizer) has one error (and extra word) and does not have any "similar products" and I didn't realize ALL reviews were being edited by someone else. I now feel like I am slacking for letting this go. less

To clarify...

01: You cannot 'proofread' your own reviews. This means they will not go through the proofreading process. It will be as though you are submitting a current Not Assigned review.

02: My understanding here is all reviews will go through the proofreading process. less

Wow, OK. My last review, an assignment, which I just wrote just autopublished. The review before that one, an assignment, has not yet published. I guess we just have to be patient.

It will take a little while to get used to it, but I think we'll be OK. less

Right, I get that we cannot PR our own reviews... my question is if all contributors with a rank higher than 5.5 will have the benefit of having all reviews auto-publish? Or is this a benefit reserved for only editors?


And as for the answer to #2... WOO HOO!!!! less