I didn't realize that's what LGBT rights were for, i have always thought they just want to get married and be like straight marriages and such. No one should EVER leave a death threat to anyone, idc if u are purple, tie die, black, white, bi/gay, straight w/e. The cops have to investigate threats like that. My sister isn't anything more than a married wife, but her hubby use to do empty threats in 2010 and cops investigated it and he went to jail for 3 days cuz of it. as for family not speaking to you, thats not right - for a few months is one thing but for good? no that's just wrong. don't have to like the way of living but always love your child/family.

As for Transvestite vs a Transgendered, i'm not sure and i may look it up. I just know the 1 person i saw sunday was CLEARLY a man dressed like a girl - nails and fake boobs, but facial hair and wig and the manly voice gave the huge impression that he was trying to look like a girl, but obviously not doing too good a job at it. i didnt say anything rude to him though. I told my husband once we got the tickets and he said shush til we get to car.

and the 1st post i said nope and i don't wanna argue over it i said, got hounded with ?s and ?s and ?s and comments and now we're 6 pages into this post.

And wow that's just PATHETIC and horrendous that people rape gay people because they're gay. any force or abuse is wrong! less

Marriage is a right. It shouldn't matter if you're gay or straight. You can't say that something is okay for one person and not okay for another. No matter what the reason is.

50 years ago, the same argument was being fought, except it was to allow black and white people to marry each other. And before that, it was to allow black people the right to vote or the right to go to school with white people. Before THAT it was to allow women to vote.

Denying gay people the right to marry and have the benefits of marriage (tax deductions, medical decisions, health benefits, etc.) is just as bad as saying black people can't get married to white people. It's the same thing.

Equal rights should be given to ALL citizens. That is what the fight is for.

Does it really matter if gay people get married? Does it change the value of your own marriage? less

Marriage is a right. It shouldn't matter if you're gay or straight. You can't say that something is okay for one person and not okay for another. No matter what the reason is.

50 years ago, the same argument was being fought, except it was to allow black and white people to marry each other. And before that, it was to allow black people the right to vote or the right to go to school with white people. Before THAT it was to allow women to vote.

Denying gay people the right to marry and have the benefits of marriage (tax deductions, medical decisions, health benefits, etc.) is just as bad as saying black people can't get married to white people. It's the same thing.

Equal rights should be given to ALL citizens. That is what the fight is for.

Does it really matter if gay people get married? Does it change the value of your own marriage? less

no it does not change any value in my own marriage, every couple has their own problems marriage isn't always a walk in the park.

They shouldn't be told they can't get health insurance or benefits, medical decisions etc.

So I don't know what the issue is i guess other than religious belief about it. And there's not a thing wrong with black marrying white etc.

I understand that 2 guys or 2 girls being intimate isn't right; that's my only true issue with it. less

no it does not change any value in my own marriage, every couple has their own problems marriage isn't always a walk in the park.

They shouldn't be told they can't get health insurance or benefits, medical decisions etc.

So I don't know what the issue is i guess other than religious belief about it. And there's not a thing wrong with black marrying white etc.

I understand that 2 guys or 2 girls being intimate isn't right; that's my only true issue with it. less

i do not make the laws. my 1 vote in a huge election likely has little effect on the president's decisions or congress.

@BBW - wow people really hurt the LGBT Community in that way? thats horrible, i never thought people actually would say/write hate to anyone. im not hating anyone, i just have an opinion about the topic discussed. why would someone beat or kill someone over it? none of that makes any sense to me except for the one about taking their date to prom. that's an issue in statewide schools i've heard. less

i never thought people actually would say/write hate to anyone. im not hating anyone, i just have an opinion about the topic discussed. why would someone beat or kill someone over it none of that makes any sense to me

Really? Really!? REALLY!!? Your surprised by this? Just now this occurred to you? Have you even read this thing you call the bible!? Because the very first introduction many of us had to the idea of killing someone for being gay IS the Bible.

Gowning up in Christian school I was introduced to the Bible very early including* Leviticus 20:13. link

“If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.”

It makes perfect sense to us because of the bible. And somehow despite the book you claim to base your life around and that you’ve read calling for death to homosexuals you’re somehow surprised that it happens? Being surprised by this requires…I don’t even know where to begin analyzing the type of cognitive dissonance required for a devote Bible reader to be surprised at gay violence requires. It would be like someone living in Maryland who self-identify as a crab fisherman being surprised that crab cakes exist and… and I can’t even produce quality snark over this…. mind-boggled. REALLY!!? This is ,sadly, not a rhetorical question my jaw was on the floor on this one.

*Other things that I learned from the bible the first time include bestiality. Thank you Exodus 22:19 link for beating the internet to the punch on that one. less

i never thought people actually would say/write hate to anyone. im not hating anyone, i just have an opinion about the topic discussed. why would someone beat or kill someone over it none of that makes any sense to me

Really? Really!? REALLY!!? Your surprised by this? Just now this occurred to you? Have you even read this thing you call the bible!? Because the very first introduction many of us had to the idea of killing someone for being gay IS the Bible.

Gowning up in Christian school I was introduced to the Bible very early including* Leviticus 20:13. link

“If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.”

It makes perfect sense to us because of the bible. And somehow despite the book you claim to base your life around and that you’ve read calling for death to homosexuals you’re somehow surprised that it happens? Being surprised by this requires…I don’t even know where to begin analyzing the type of cognitive dissonance required for a devote Bible reader to be surprised at gay violence requires. It would be like someone living in Maryland who self-identify as a crab fisherman being surprised that crab cakes exist and… and I can’t even produce quality snark over this…. mind-boggled. REALLY!!? This is ,sadly, not a rhetorical question my jaw was on the floor on this one.

*Other things that I learned from the bible the first time include bestiality. Thank you Exodus 22:19 link for beating the internet to the punch on that one. less

the school i went to didn't have discussions on gays/gay marriage or even abortion really.

@velvetdragon - they don't have VISITING rights in hospital?? that's eff'd up. it shouldn't matter married or not.

@silverminxx - yes I'm not for premarital sex either, but i was almost 21 when I had sex not married for the first time and i've been married to him since march 2008. i always said i will wait until marriage to have sex. less