Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
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We have plenty of laws in place. What we need is for those laws to be enforced constantly and consistently.
07/20/2012
I don't believe in stronger laws for most things. When you outlaw things, it doesn't get rid of them. It just makes it so you have to get them on the street and such. So basically those that want guns for bad things will find a way to get them. Similar to the oh so effective "War on Drugs." Note the sarcasm.
I don't have issues with guns in general. I have issues with people who have no respect for human life. I'm not sure what the answer is as there's probably no law that can be put in place to make those who don't value life suddenly change their minds.
I don't have issues with guns in general. I have issues with people who have no respect for human life. I'm not sure what the answer is as there's probably no law that can be put in place to make those who don't value life suddenly change their minds.
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I think if someone wants to do something, they will find a way.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
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The worst gun crimes occur in places, like D.C. and N.Y., where honest citizens cannot carry guns legally, so the criminals, who could care less about the laws, are the only one's armed! The HONEST population are sheep to be plucked, helpless and at the will of the bad guys.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
It is sad to hear all the celebrities who speak SO loudly about supporting the disarming of honest citizens, but who have multiple ARMED body guards with them 24/7. Pure hypocrisy.
07/20/2012
Better care/support for the mentally ill seems like a factor in reducing shootings. That sorta gets ignored in the "guns or no guns?" debate.
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No, i think most gun crimes were committed with guns illegally obtained anyways.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
07/20/2012
No. You know what they say - if there's a will, there's a way.
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yes
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Haha! This exactly.
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I don't believe in stronger laws for most things. When you outlaw things, it doesn't get rid of them. It just makes it so you have to get them on the street and such. So basically those that want guns for bad things will find a way to get
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I don't believe in stronger laws for most things. When you outlaw things, it doesn't get rid of them. It just makes it so you have to get them on the street and such. So basically those that want guns for bad things will find a way to get them. Similar to the oh so effective "War on Drugs." Note the sarcasm.
I don't have issues with guns in general. I have issues with people who have no respect for human life. I'm not sure what the answer is as there's probably no law that can be put in place to make those who don't value life suddenly change their minds. less
I don't have issues with guns in general. I have issues with people who have no respect for human life. I'm not sure what the answer is as there's probably no law that can be put in place to make those who don't value life suddenly change their minds. less
07/20/2012
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Basically it would only stop law abiding citizens from getting guns and they aren't the ones we're worried about.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
07/20/2012
It's really hard to find statistics from neutral or trustworthy sources on this topic, since it's so controversial. As such, I'm undecided as to whether they work or not, but I think education about responsible gun ownership would be much more effective, partly because laws regarding them would be much easier to pass. Though I think there should absolutely be restrictions against people with violent criminal records obtaining or owning weapons - they gave up their right to own them when they committed violence against others. I know this would be unfair as some demographics are more likely to be falsely accused of violent crime than others, but I think the way to fix that problem is eliminate discrimination when it comes to false accusations rather than being lenient when it comes to handing out weapons.
07/20/2012
Criminals apparently don't care about laws, so stricter gun control would only disarm people who might use the guns to defend themselves.
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I think stronger gun control would have an impact on crime. The crime rate has gone down in recent years, when many municpalities put their own gun control laws into action. In Chicago, Mayor Daley had a fairly workable gun control law in effect and it brought down the crime rate. Some.... people brought the law to the Supreme Court and it was struck down as unconstitutional. Since then, violence, especially gang violence has increased in the city of Chicago.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
I think common sense gun laws could do a lot of good. NOBODY needs an automatic weapon. It is not "sport" as automatic and semi-automatic weapons are made for ONE thing; mowing down human beings in large numbers in short periods of time. They should never be allowed to be owned by civilians.
A lot of people are going to disagree with me. But an "armed public" has been proven NOT to stop crime. Witness the fact that at the Colorado theater, there were not only plenty of soldiers in the crowd, but police IN the lobby (according to reports.) A few years ago, a doctor went crazy ON a military base and killed a number of people right in the midst of "an armed public." These crimes happen quickly and there has not been a case of this type of crime I know of where "an armed public" made a damn bit of difference to a spree killer or mass murderer.
Sorry, I don't think some things should be legal and automatic weapons are one of them. It should also be more difficult to buy any gun. Some guns should be available, but they should be damn hard to get. And damn expensive.
Countries which have strong anti-gun laws have much lower crime rates than the USA. Access to weapons can't "prevent" crimes, that's simply illogical.
07/20/2012
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Pretty damn hard to kill 12 people and wound more than 60 in 1.5 minutes with a knife, don't you think?
Originally posted by
Upyourreviews
I think if someone wants to do something, they will find a way.
The SPEED and efficiency at which automatic weapons kill is part of the problem.
If "people will find a way" to do whatever they want, why bother with laws at all?
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Actually most are legally purchased. Sometimes at Gun Shows where gun laws that are in place don't apply.
Originally posted by
Missmarc
No, i think most gun crimes were committed with guns illegally obtained anyways.
The man who murdered 12 and shot over 50 early this morning bought ALL FOUR of his guns completely legally. He just walked into a Bass Pro Shop and bought an automatic weapon. Then to an other store a week later and bought two Lugars and then back to the Pro Shop to legally buy an other long gun. All legally obtained.
07/20/2012
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No, if someone wants to commit a crime they will find the means to do it, gun law or not.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
07/20/2012
Gun laws just make it harder for the good, responsible people to have them. Criminals are going to get them no matter what.
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I think that anyone who wants it bad enough will get it anyway. But I'm sure it will HELP.
Originally posted by
Terri69
Do you think stronger gun laws would help reduce gun crimes?
07/20/2012
Just like the mass shooting in Norway were gun laws are very strong - if a psycho wants to amass weapons, there isn't any way to stop them.
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I totally agree
Originally posted by
Missmarc
No, i think most gun crimes were committed with guns illegally obtained anyways.
07/20/2012
This kind of topic just proves how people can't think statistically. OF COURSE gun laws reduce gun crimes. OF COURSE people who are determined to get a weapon illegally will find a way. But stricter laws would prevent so crimes such as those involving children or mentally ill people getting a hold of weapons. I think that automatic weapons should be completely outlawed. There should be many more restrictions for people with any kind of questionable background. There should be very strict laws on keeping guns out of others' hands–similar to the illegality of the transfer of prescription narcotics.
You gotta remember that the vast majority of "gun crimes" involve legally purchased weapons and receive no publicity. Many are accidental. We only hear about the nutcases from the media.
You gotta remember that the vast majority of "gun crimes" involve legally purchased weapons and receive no publicity. Many are accidental. We only hear about the nutcases from the media.
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Actually Norway does not have particularly strong gun laws. They have a very large population of hunters that prevent such laws from being passed.
Originally posted by
Gunsmoke
Just like the mass shooting in Norway were gun laws are very strong - if a psycho wants to amass weapons, there isn't any way to stop them.
The countries with very restrictive gun laws (for example the UK, which completely bans handguns for civilians) have VERY low homicide rates compared to the US.
In 2009:
US: 2.98/100,000 recorded intentional homicides by firearm
UK: 0.03/100,000 "
In case you can't do math, the US's rate is 99 times that of the UK's.
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07/20/2012
More restrictive gun laws would not have prevented what happened in Colorado. Mexico has much more restrictive gun laws... and we all know how safe it is in that country.
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This is completely untrue. If we had restrictive gun laws, the suspect would not have been able to purchase the weapons he did.
Originally posted by
amazon
More restrictive gun laws would not have prevented what happened in Colorado. Mexico has much more restrictive gun laws... and we all know how safe it is in that country.
How exactly does Mexico have more restrictive gun laws?
07/20/2012
Of course not
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Originally posted by
ghalik
Actually Norway does not have particularly strong gun laws. They have a very large population of hunters that prevent such laws from being passed.
The countries with very restrictive gun laws (for example the UK, which completely bans handguns ... more
The countries with very restrictive gun laws (for example the UK, which completely bans handguns ... more
Actually Norway does not have particularly strong gun laws. They have a very large population of hunters that prevent such laws from being passed.
The countries with very restrictive gun laws (for example the UK, which completely bans handguns for civilians) have VERY low homicide rates compared to the US.
In 2009:
US: 2.98/100,000 recorded intentional homicides by firearm
UK: 0.03/100,000 "
In case you can't do math, the US's rate is 99 times that of the UK's.
source less
The countries with very restrictive gun laws (for example the UK, which completely bans handguns for civilians) have VERY low homicide rates compared to the US.
In 2009:
US: 2.98/100,000 recorded intentional homicides by firearm
UK: 0.03/100,000 "
In case you can't do math, the US's rate is 99 times that of the UK's.
source less
07/21/2012
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I was trying to figure out a way to say this, and now I don't have to. I agree, it's just plain logic.
Originally posted by
ghalik
This kind of topic just proves how people can't think statistically. OF COURSE gun laws reduce gun crimes. OF COURSE people who are determined to get a weapon illegally will find a way. But stricter laws would prevent so crimes such as those
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This kind of topic just proves how people can't think statistically. OF COURSE gun laws reduce gun crimes. OF COURSE people who are determined to get a weapon illegally will find a way. But stricter laws would prevent so crimes such as those involving children or mentally ill people getting a hold of weapons. I think that automatic weapons should be completely outlawed. There should be many more restrictions for people with any kind of questionable background. There should be very strict laws on keeping guns out of others' hands–similar to the illegality of the transfer of prescription narcotics.
You gotta remember that the vast majority of "gun crimes" involve legally purchased weapons and receive no publicity. Many are accidental. We only hear about the nutcases from the media. less
You gotta remember that the vast majority of "gun crimes" involve legally purchased weapons and receive no publicity. Many are accidental. We only hear about the nutcases from the media. less
07/21/2012
I really don't know, I'm a little on the fence about it. I don't think it would HURT anything though.
07/21/2012
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AGREE!!!
Originally posted by
Petite Valentine
We have plenty of laws in place. What we need is for those laws to be enforced constantly and consistently.
07/21/2012