It's the natural evolution of today's society. Sure to those of us who grew up with high morals find it wrong, but the people on television, movies and magazines say it's perfectly fine. There's nothing you can do to change the direction the hive is flying in. All you can do is change your own children and hope they grow up with better morals and higher standards.
Creepily Impressive but too Young?
09/03/2010
I saw about 15 seconds of this....
It's difficult to react. Especially if you're in the audience.
Do you clap for the girls to encourage them and let them know they're doing a good job? Or do you shy away and later reprimand te adults for creating that routine?
It's difficult to react. Especially if you're in the audience.
Do you clap for the girls to encourage them and let them know they're doing a good job? Or do you shy away and later reprimand te adults for creating that routine?
09/03/2010
I don't like it at all-They're entirely too young. A lot of the times I see very young girls wearing outfits that their parents bought that are entirely inappropriate! I wouldn't want my daughter wearing that! I'm so glad that you don't like this either.
09/03/2010
The world is a crazy place anymore!
09/03/2010
Wow! that is really creepy. If you look past the clothes and music and some of the dance music, they are really good dancers. that make me bad or wrong to think that
09/04/2010
They are good, but I'm sure they could be good wearing more clothing as well.
09/04/2010
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Eh, I feel like there is something we can do about it, but enough people haven't banded together yet to figure it out.
Originally posted by
Sinjo
It's the natural evolution of today's society. Sure to those of us who grew up with high morals find it wrong, but the people on television, movies and magazines say it's perfectly fine. There's nothing you can do to change the
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It's the natural evolution of today's society. Sure to those of us who grew up with high morals find it wrong, but the people on television, movies and magazines say it's perfectly fine. There's nothing you can do to change the direction the hive is flying in. All you can do is change your own children and hope they grow up with better morals and higher standards.
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09/04/2010
I agree with the outfits looking kind of burlesque. I feel that had these girls been in a pink leotard It wouldn't have seemed as bad. The end was the worst for sure... I think the combo of the dancing and the outfits is just terrible. I wouldn't have allowed it as a parent. Those girls are amazingly talented and it takes alot of training and hard work to do some of the things they are doing, but as a mother I just can't imagine my little girl up on that stage doing those moves, in those costumes and me cheering about it.
09/04/2010
i try to be open minded but this is a bit too much IMO... i don't think that they should have done a 'alice in wonderland' act but i am sure that there are plenty of way for them to demonstrate their dancing skills without being turned into mini sex machines.
i wonder about the coach... and the parents...
i wonder about the coach... and the parents...
09/04/2010
They're very talented, but this is highly disturbing to watch. This is like a pedo's wet dream
01/04/2011
They are certainly talented, but that is the worst costuming and choreography I have ever seen on children that age.
01/05/2011
Very disturbing really takes away from the talent and ability they have which is a shame.
01/05/2011
I think it's asking for trouble.
Kids should be kids - they grow up too fast and want to dress in very little early enough as it is.
If I had a daughter, I wouldn't want her being involved with that!
Kids should be kids - they grow up too fast and want to dress in very little early enough as it is.
If I had a daughter, I wouldn't want her being involved with that!
01/05/2011
The girls are talented.....I do not think the dance was age appropriate though!
01/05/2011
I think this is absolutely horrible. I mean, its great to let your child follow their dreams. And these girls do have a lot of talent. However, I think that this was highly inappropriate for their age. Though, if they were fully dressed in something a little less provocative, and covered a LOT more, we might have had different reactions to it.
If I had kids, I wouldn't let my daughter be caught DEAD looking like that.
If I had kids, I wouldn't let my daughter be caught DEAD looking like that.
02/09/2011
well now I know what a pedophile dreams about. They are amazing talented for so young but did they really have to squeeze them into that outfit? I mean, come on, are they asking for more abductions? If they were dressed appropriatly everyone would love them. Thats just sick to do to children. Their parents should be ashamed.
02/09/2011
I don't feel like a pedophile, however I bet a pedophile would wank to it.... which is beyond creepy.
02/17/2011
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I think that it is not fair that they dance better than I do! hahaha
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~LaUr3n~
These girls are in grammar school and yet they are participating in a dance competition where they are dancing in ways I don't find appropriate. I wondered what everyone else's opinions were. As a dancer with 14 years of professional
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These girls are in grammar school and yet they are participating in a dance competition where they are dancing in ways I don't find appropriate. I wondered what everyone else's opinions were. As a dancer with 14 years of professional training, I started at the age of 4. I am not naive to the skimpy spandex costumes and intense competitiveness. But, I never was taught to dance like THIS at that age. We did wear some costumes similar to this, But they don't become sexualized without the moves that accompany them.
In my opinion these girls are extremely talented but they are being extorted in a similar way that little girls are for winning beauty competitions. I find it irresponsible and inappropriate. I felt like a pedo watching it and it made me a bit uncomfortable lol.
What do you think?
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In my opinion these girls are extremely talented but they are being extorted in a similar way that little girls are for winning beauty competitions. I find it irresponsible and inappropriate. I felt like a pedo watching it and it made me a bit uncomfortable lol.
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but yes, i find this a bit disturbing.. the routine could've been done with a little more clothing coverage and look just as good... but the moves themselves- those were children, not adults... i second the video's title saying that i wouldn't let them KNOw those moves till they were atleast 16! whew!
02/17/2011
You know, I'm really not bothered so much by the outfits, little kids run around in bathing suits and such all the time. What freaks me out most is the makeup: it's like they're trying to make these girls look like tiny adults... and it's working. The dance itself is a bit sexual, but little girls just sort of emulate that when they see it. I grew up with sisters, they were dancing to Madonna and Britney videos in the same way. It's the adults sanctioning and displaying it this way that really freaks me out.
02/17/2011
They are seriously good dancers....like, oh man. But that routine....ew. No. It made me feel creepy to watch that. Kids shouldn't be performing dressed up like that or do moves like that...save it until you've hit puberty at least :S It reminds me of those really scary child pageants. The way they dress kids up for those is terrifying.
02/17/2011
What really creeps me out are the child beauty pageant tv shows where you see parents telling their 3 year old to shake their butt in a bikini.
I really doubt that young girls even get that the moves they are doing are sexual in nature, but there's such a creepy factor knowing that at least part of the audience is certainly noticing.
I really doubt that young girls even get that the moves they are doing are sexual in nature, but there's such a creepy factor knowing that at least part of the audience is certainly noticing.
02/17/2011
My Grandmother had me in beauty and dance competitions when I was young. I took tap, jazz, and ballet and although we weren't as flashy as the kids are now, I'm sure it still seemed a bit pervy to some.
Some people will always take it over the top and when they do, people will watch.
Some people will always take it over the top and when they do, people will watch.
02/17/2011
I think that they're really talented and that talent would have shown with clothing and moves that were more age appropriate. That being said, they looked like they were having fun. They looked like they were enjoying themselves and the thing that matters is how those girls see themselves at the end of the day. I've seen hiphop routines done where girls are wearing t-shirts and baggy pants and their talent can still shine through despite not wearing skin-tight clothing. I think the blame of the routine and clothing choice should be solely on the coach/instructor.
Yes, there are pedophiles out there who may look at the video and think it's the best thing since Christmas. But those pedophiles would also think the same thing going to a public pool or sitting in a park watching a playground. Pedophiles, by nature, like seeing children act as children. I learned in a psychology class that generally speaking, pedophiles aren't aroused by children dressing up to look older. They're pedophiles because they enjoy children who also act and look like children.
Yes, there are pedophiles out there who may look at the video and think it's the best thing since Christmas. But those pedophiles would also think the same thing going to a public pool or sitting in a park watching a playground. Pedophiles, by nature, like seeing children act as children. I learned in a psychology class that generally speaking, pedophiles aren't aroused by children dressing up to look older. They're pedophiles because they enjoy children who also act and look like children.
02/17/2011
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I agree completely with your statements.
Originally posted by
Miss Cinnamon
I remember thinking the exact same thing when I watched Donnie Darko.
Maybe it's prudish of me to think so, but sexy dances should be done by adults. Girls in elementary school can get their kicks doing cute dances, elegant dances... just ... more
Maybe it's prudish of me to think so, but sexy dances should be done by adults. Girls in elementary school can get their kicks doing cute dances, elegant dances... just ... more
I remember thinking the exact same thing when I watched Donnie Darko.
Maybe it's prudish of me to think so, but sexy dances should be done by adults. Girls in elementary school can get their kicks doing cute dances, elegant dances... just not sexy dances. I don't see the appeal in it and it makes me feel bad for even watching. less
Maybe it's prudish of me to think so, but sexy dances should be done by adults. Girls in elementary school can get their kicks doing cute dances, elegant dances... just not sexy dances. I don't see the appeal in it and it makes me feel bad for even watching. less
02/17/2011
I have to say, the girls are seriously talented. However, that routine was in my opinion totally inappropriate for little girls. It makes me wonder what the parents were thinking, what the coach was thinking, and what the audience was thinking (because every time the little girls gyrated, the audience cheered more). I'm all for letting little girls dance and take lessons and all that, but this was over the line to me. Way too sexy (dancing and song choice) for 7 year olds.
05/05/2011
I remember looking at a rulebook when I was in ballroom. The dresscode was pretty much anything goes if you were over 18, and no bikini-style outfits if you were under 18. Pretty lenient, but it made the point of minors (younger kids especially) needing to dress appropriately for their age. At my studio, instructors demanded to see people's costumes beforehand to make sure they were appropriate. I think that was good since latin dance is supposed to look very sexy and stuff, and it made a good balance that made the dances more pretty than "hot".
For other types of dances, I think the same thing applies. I don't want to see a kid in a bikini dancing, particularly if they're moves could be kinda provocative. Since different moves can be provocative to different people, I'd rather just say kids can't dance in bikinis and the like. There are plenty of beautiful dance costumes that look just as good, even better considering kids have like NO curve to show off.
I did see a pageant show once where a kid who was around 8-10 wore a Mardi Gras outfit that was a slightly conservative bikini with a fancy headress, maracas, and some knee-high boot cover things. That looked ok, I think since it had a bunch of stuff OTHER than the bikini.
For other types of dances, I think the same thing applies. I don't want to see a kid in a bikini dancing, particularly if they're moves could be kinda provocative. Since different moves can be provocative to different people, I'd rather just say kids can't dance in bikinis and the like. There are plenty of beautiful dance costumes that look just as good, even better considering kids have like NO curve to show off.
I did see a pageant show once where a kid who was around 8-10 wore a Mardi Gras outfit that was a slightly conservative bikini with a fancy headress, maracas, and some knee-high boot cover things. That looked ok, I think since it had a bunch of stuff OTHER than the bikini.
05/05/2011
girls that young really should not be dancing like that.
05/05/2011
I think it is mostly ok. There were only two moves that I wasn't real fond of: early on a single girl bent over to touch her toes with her butt kinda sticking out, and while the hip shaking didn't bother me, there was a move towards the end that was a legs spread pelvic circle/grind thing that I thought was too much. Costumes weren't that bad. There is nothing inherently sexual about a bare stomach, and the cropped tops weren't trying to give the impression the girls were anything but flat. Would a "safe" pastel pink color have been more appropriate for little girls? I think they looked like they were having a lot of fun, being bold and showing off for the crowd.
I have a young cousin just about this age who is really into dance, and have seen quite a few hip hop routines like this. They are hard physically, and really get the girls active. They teach teamwork, the ethic of hard work in practice to succeed, and build confidence to go out in front of crowds and perform. The important thing is the kids have fun. They understand that it is a show, that the makeup and costumes aren't for every day. It is dress up. They put it on, play, and then take it off. As for the content, kids do not exist in a vacuum. They are growing up in the culture we have created, and are going to imitate our actions. They see and hear our music, our dance, our dress, and want to be like us. Yes, there is line for what is age appropriate, but I don't think this performance crossed it.
Of course, that is just my opinion, and individual parents must determine that line for their own children. But I ask, what does it say about us if we tell young girls that they should be ashamed of this? It makes me think of the recent Slut Walks. Those women and men were marching to protest survivors being defined, shamed, and blamed for sexual assault because of the clothes they wore. In my mind this is not a completely different issue. By the simple nature of their dress and dance, these girls were not asking to be a pedophile's victim. They were playing, which is completely natural for kids to do.
I have a young cousin just about this age who is really into dance, and have seen quite a few hip hop routines like this. They are hard physically, and really get the girls active. They teach teamwork, the ethic of hard work in practice to succeed, and build confidence to go out in front of crowds and perform. The important thing is the kids have fun. They understand that it is a show, that the makeup and costumes aren't for every day. It is dress up. They put it on, play, and then take it off. As for the content, kids do not exist in a vacuum. They are growing up in the culture we have created, and are going to imitate our actions. They see and hear our music, our dance, our dress, and want to be like us. Yes, there is line for what is age appropriate, but I don't think this performance crossed it.
Of course, that is just my opinion, and individual parents must determine that line for their own children. But I ask, what does it say about us if we tell young girls that they should be ashamed of this? It makes me think of the recent Slut Walks. Those women and men were marching to protest survivors being defined, shamed, and blamed for sexual assault because of the clothes they wore. In my mind this is not a completely different issue. By the simple nature of their dress and dance, these girls were not asking to be a pedophile's victim. They were playing, which is completely natural for kids to do.
05/05/2011
I think part of what bothered me the most is how the audience reacted and what that reaction teaches the girls involved. The more the girls gyrated their pelvises, the more the crowd cheered. I just don't think that's the kind of lesson I would want my daughter learning; that adults like it when children gyrate their pelvises, regardless of the setting or circumstances.
05/05/2011
I always feel sorry for them and wonder what they will think about it when they are adults.
05/05/2011