Also, since you seem to be very concerned about the nature of your friend's hymen, I suggest you watch this video and understand that hymens may not be what you think they are.
link
link
Virginity - losing it?
05/29/2012
Penetration and virginity don't always go hand in hand. Someone could give oral and still consider themselves a virgin, while someone else could have non-penetrative sex and still consider themself a virgin. Does it matter anyway?
05/30/2012
Quote:
This is a really good point. I am pansexual and lost my virginity to a woman. My first male partner would say that my first sexual experience "did not count." I believe what Jr. said is correct, that he felt it "diminished" the power of his penis on my so-called virginity.
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
For some reason this can be a really big can of worms.
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one ... more
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one ... more
For some reason this can be a really big can of worms.
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one thing and feel that if someone disagrees with them, they're diminishing the value of their penis.
Those w/o a penis will question why one is necessary.
Then you have the physical vs. emotional penetration.
it's a mess. less
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one thing and feel that if someone disagrees with them, they're diminishing the value of their penis.
Those w/o a penis will question why one is necessary.
Then you have the physical vs. emotional penetration.
it's a mess. less
05/30/2012
I go by emotionally, as well, so you can take it that way. It's kind of complicated because it means something different to everyone. For some, it's black and white and a physical thing. For me, it's an emotional thing and then she can say, "Emotionally, I feel I have, but physically, I am still a virgin." And that's just fine! She can say she's a penis virgin
05/30/2012
If you're doing sexy things that you consider sex with someone other than yourself, you lost it. It's all up to you.
05/31/2012
My definition is this: if there are two or more people of any gender combination involved and there is any sexual-based actions beyond kissing and hugging (oral, anal, PIV, etc.), it's sex. Penetration is not required to lose one's virginity. A single person manipulating their genitals (whether manually or by penetration with an object) is masturbation and does not qualify as losing one's virginity. By my definition, I am still a virgin.
06/11/2012
Your virginity is lost when you have a sexual encounter that feels significant enough to you to be considered the loss of your virginity.
Penetration doesn't have to be involved, but it often is.
Penetration doesn't have to be involved, but it often is.
06/11/2012
Quote:
I knew reading your comment what that link was going to be
Originally posted by
alittlebit
Also, since you seem to be very concerned about the nature of your friend's hymen, I suggest you watch this video and understand that hymens may not be what you think they are.
link
link
06/12/2012
Quote:
i dont think it's at all fair to make it so heterosexist and penis-oriented for female-bodied people. if it feels like sex, it's sex!
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
06/30/2012
When people ask me about losing my virginity I really don't know what to say—I didn't have penetrative sex until I was 19, but for a year before that I'd had a very sexually fulfilling relationship with another woman, and everything I did with her I'd done with men before that...I with we could do away with the idea altogether, really. I don't see what function it serves.
06/30/2012
i think when u have sex with any gender u lose it.To me means ur just new to some thing.where all virgin to something
07/03/2012
To say that losing your virginity is only possible with a penis is completely homophobic. All people should be able to decide when they no longer feel like a virgin.
07/04/2012
it doesn't have to be penetration, and it certainly doesn't have to be a penis. but really the entire concept of "virginity" is some stupid, outdated, heteropatriarchal nonsense.
07/28/2012
As people have already explain sufficient virginity is a backward concept and i put no stock in it. When we start calling the birth of a first child loss of null parity, weddings loss of single-hood and graduations loss of degreelessness then I'll start taking it seriously
08/02/2012
If you're having sex with another person using anything, hands mouths or penis or strap on or whatever you want then you lost your virginity. It's significant when you first have sex with a sex you haven't had sex with before but you're already not a virgin. I lost my virginity to a man. Then I had sex with a woman. Yeah that was different, but I wasn't a virgin anymore, and it wasn't just because the first person I had sex with was male. Non-penetrative sex with another woman is just as much sex as penetrative sex with a woman and just as much sex as regular hetero intercourse and foreplay.
11/01/2012
I personally think that it is losing your virginity if that is what you take it is. I don't feel that penetration with a penis is the only way to give one's virginity because there are many same sex couples that don't have that option. For me, I gave up my virginity when I had a sexual experience that required complete trust and respect, as well as intimacy.
11/05/2012
I think penetration is needed. That is just my personal opinion. As you can see, once again you got several different answers lol
11/14/2012
Virginity is a made up concept from a man because they think their penis is so important it changes a woman. haha. Also...you lose your virginity when you are intimate and not just because you are being penetrated. If that was the case I lost my virginity at 5 with a crayon in the bathtub. My mom had to explain more than she wanted to at that time
11/14/2012
Quote:
I really think it depends on the beliefs/mind of the person. As a straight female I would think it would be with a female only, but I can see how someone else would view it differently.
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
11/15/2012
Quote:
I dont think losing yourvirginity even has to be penetration.
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
11/19/2012
Quote:
I think that it is, because you arent really a virgin after this happens
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
11/19/2012
go for it
11/20/2012
Quote:
it depends on the situation
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
11/20/2012
If the hymen gets broken you lost it
12/12/2012
I think that virginity loss is the first time you have sexual contact, whether that involves penetration or not.
12/16/2012
Quote:
in my opinion, i lost my virginity when a penis entered my vagina.
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
01/19/2013
Quote:
Defining sex may be impossible. I've had experiences without penetration that were infinitely richer and more sexual than some experiences with, so I'm inclined to say that whatever feels like sex probably is. Penetration isn't but a small part of the infinite pleasures a body can provide. Ain't life grand?
Originally posted by
Miss Jane
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight ... more
The backstory:
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
One of my friends is a virgin, and ready for the world of sex. She wants to lose it to someone who cares about her, wants it to be special, and generally just doesn't want to get taken advantage of. Since she's been straight other that her relationship with me in the past, I didn't use a strap-on on her when we were together. (read: I didn't want her to look back on it with me being the only girl in her life and think 'I wish my first time being penetrated had been with a man'.).
Now I'm worried these other guys in her life are going to screw it up, and she's expressing interest in me again. I've mentioned it to a few people and gotten different replies - some think it's not losing your virginity if it's a toy, and others think that penetration is de-virginizing, no matter what it is.
Also, I mean in the emotional sense of the word, not the physical sense. If I were talking about the physical sense, I'd have lost my virginity when I fell and broke my hymen when I was a child
So what do you think? Is having sex with a strap-on de-virginizing, or not? less
01/20/2013
Quote:
agreed
Originally posted by
Sir
None of these express my opinion on that. A person losing their virginity is with one or more partners, no penetration needed whatsoever. Sex can be done in many ways, not just with penetration of something coming off of the pelvis. For me,
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more
None of these express my opinion on that. A person losing their virginity is with one or more partners, no penetration needed whatsoever. Sex can be done in many ways, not just with penetration of something coming off of the pelvis. For me, virginity depends on how intimate the situation is between the people involved.
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02/02/2013
Quote:
Thanks for suggesting the movie.
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
For some reason this can be a really big can of worms.
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one ... more
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one ... more
For some reason this can be a really big can of worms.
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one thing and feel that if someone disagrees with them, they're diminishing the value of their penis.
Those w/o a penis will question why one is necessary.
Then you have the physical vs. emotional penetration.
it's a mess. less
For reference: Chasing Amy. Check it out, good movie despite Ben Afflack.
Just about everyone can be offended by anyone else's opinion on this.
Those with a penis will say one thing and feel that if someone disagrees with them, they're diminishing the value of their penis.
Those w/o a penis will question why one is necessary.
Then you have the physical vs. emotional penetration.
it's a mess. less
02/03/2013
Having sex with a girl is just as valid as having sex with a guy. You don't need to be penetrated to have sex. Honestly, virginity is just a social construct, and doesn't really exist.
02/14/2013