I agree. It seems to me she has something particular stuck in her mind. Maybe an ideal placed there from a fairytale while a child?

For me there are many types of sex and each has its own special place. Sometimes a hand-job can be great, sometimes you need a soft wet tongue, sometimes it's a cock... When I think about it there is a first time for everything. First time with a strap-on would be different than a first time with a cock, same with giving or receiving oral sex.

I like what Miss Alice said though:
"Sex is You + Someone else + A goal of achieving climax."

I'm sorry, that ISN'T TRUE! Medicine DOESN'T define virginity at all, and certainly NOT this way!

Some girls have thick hymens, some have "imperforate" hymens, (no opening or only a pin hole opening) which then have to be surgically "broken" so they can Menstruate properly (they do this at about 12 years of age, if they know about it) and, the girl is still considered "a virgin." Some women have tight hymens, and have to use graduated "pessaries" (which is a nice, medicalized word for Dildos) in increasing size, so she can accept a penis or regular toy without pain. BUT, she is still a "virgin" even when she is using the largest pessary and is comfortable.

Some women have NO discernible hymen, at ALL, and they weren't BORN "non-virgins." Some women have hymens which stretch easily to manual manipulation. My Man stretched mine, with manual play, and there was no evidence of it at all when I finally "lost" my virginity" and had PIV sex for the first time, with him, months later.

Medical science DOES NOT define "Virginity" because it is more a state of mind and has nothing to do with "hymens."

Sorry, being a nurse, and working in Maternal Infant Care and seeing more vaginas than most people have in a lifetime I just had to say something.

I can't define "Virgin" and like Chili, I'm beginning to hate the word.

However, I think a sexual act, with some penetration with an other person is probably the closest to how I feel about the term. And I hate the word "LOSE" IMO, you are gaining a sex life, not losing much of anything.

Oral counts, cucumbers count, strap ons count, if it feels like sex to the people involved, it's sex.

Well in that case I lost mine walking down the hall in an nursing home.

Not necessarily. I didn't have a hymen to lose or break when I had PIV sex for the first time. I didn't consider either the bicycle I rode as a kid nor My Man's hand to be a cherry popper. Although, one or the other either stretched or actually broke my hymen. OR I may have just been born with very little hymen. Some women are. I don't ever remember bleeding or having pain with any activity in that area, either before I had PIV sex for the first time or after.

Also, lots of things can break, rip, tear or stretch hymens and most would not consider them virginity breakers. Some women have such "imperforate hymens" that even a tampon, if roughly shoved in, could cause a tear in their hymen. In NO situation is tampon use equated with virginity loss. Nor an accident with a horse saddle or a bicycle seat.

In most situations, at least medically, the hymen is of little consequence. (Unless it presents health problems like preventing menstrual flow, or being so thick or imperforate; no hole or slit or only very small ones, that it prevents penetration does Medicine even deal with the concept of a Hymen.) But, Medicine doesn't actually define "virginity" anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.

I agree with sbon. I look at it as this overly sensationalized idea that people cling to.

Umm if she bleeds then shes out of the nun asylum.

THIS. Exactly. If it feels like sex, then HELLOO~

It's all about personal definitions. There are dozens of 'first times' for a person.

That's pretty much how I see it too. Losing your virginity is done with someone else, I guess for me it's a sex act with another person and not just by yourself.