#EdenUpdate - Forum Update - Suggestions Needed

Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by kelaaa33wish
Thats great for people that have been members for along time, but people like me that are new here we haven't seen all the "spam" or repetitive posts as you call them. I have posted in the forum a lot since I joined up. Reading this ... more
My intention is surely NOT to discourage posting. It was only a suggestion, and likely one that will not be considered. Also, true spam gets taken care of by admins. And by true spam, I mean when someone starts 4 discussions referencing a toy and asks: Good? Then in one thread comments 10 times to get their maximum points. You won't see many of those threads anymore because the admins are on top of it and they work hard to make sure that kind of spam stays off the forum! (we love you admins! )

I've been here 7 (8?) months and I certainly have not seen all the threads out there, but if you want to post a question, or a thought, the best thing to do is to go to the top of the page to the search. Search your question and it should bring up all the discussions that even mention it. If you see your question has been asked, you can read through the thread and post your comments. If not, PLEASE, start a thread!

But for example, if you're interested in finding out about whether people swallow, like to swallow, or how to overcome the gag reflex of swallowing, here's the search results. Or regarding blow jobs. Or regarding threesomes.

I don't think that most people post just to get points, just that they don't search for the topic; and folks should definitely seek beyond the first two pages. I think this mostly comes from the frustration that many people (older and newer members) feel in that you post a discussion, a question that hasn't been asked, and it gets buried in 15 minutes to the second or third page and unless you're watching it and bumping it pretty repetitively, you might not get any response.

Sorry for the text wall... like I said, by no means am I trying to discourage posting of threads and polls. I hope that clarifies my suggestion to you.
05/05/2011
Contributor: kelaaa33wish kelaaa33wish
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Originally posted by Gary
Great suggestions! One in particular that I have on my wishlist (similar to one you mentioned), is an expiration date for polls. That way the rumbles could officially close at a specific time. Right now there is no way to close a poll. ... more
I would like to have a counter on the wish list to know how many people have looked at it.
05/05/2011
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
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Originally posted by Redboxbaby
If the poster could set the expiration on their poll that would be great! There have been times I have asked a question and I got my answer and months later people are still answering. I do not even bother looking at their responses because it is ... more
Maybe set up the self-deletion in the same way as the Edit function? If it's the last post, you could do it. My thought would be how to keep people from taking advantage of that. Someone could post and delete a bunch of posts and get points...but they could also just post stupid things on other threads too to get points (perish the thought, I know)
05/05/2011
Contributor: kelaaa33wish kelaaa33wish
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
My intention is surely NOT to discourage posting. It was only a suggestion, and likely one that will not be considered. Also, true spam gets taken care of by admins. And by true spam, I mean when someone starts 4 discussions referencing a toy and ... more
Thats great but if you want to comment on the old thread subject it will then bring it back up to the forums first page( I just did that under 3somes and it went back to the top in the forum), so really what difference does it make if its a new post or older post that gets bumped back up to the first page? If they break it up into sections where one is product and Eden info only and the other for social subjects then the ones who don't want all the "clutter" wont have to view it. I'm not trying to argue just saying my thoughts.
05/05/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by kelaaa33wish
Thats great but if you want to comment on the old thread subject it will then bring it back up to the forums first page( I just did that under 3somes and it went back to the top in the forum), so really what difference does it make if its a new post ... more
I'm not arguing either... just explaining. I'm trying to figure out what you're saying here. Could you clarify just a bit?
05/05/2011
Contributor: kelaaa33wish kelaaa33wish
For example I went to the oldest 3some from the link you posted. I left a comment on the thread. It then brought that 2 year old thread back to the first page in the forums, so what I said was if I search for a subject like 3somes and I want to leave a post on it and it brings it back to the front page on the forums what difference does it make if it is an older post or a brand new post from someone who didn't search for the subject before posting a new one. Its still gonna end up either way on the forums first page. The post will still be there (on the front page), no matter if its a brand new topic started or by one thats 2 years old that someone posted a new comment on.
05/05/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by kelaaa33wish
For example I went to the oldest 3some from the link you posted. I left a comment on the thread. It then brought that 2 year old thread back to the first page in the forums, so what I said was if I search for a subject like 3somes and I want to leave ... more
That is exactly my point. Since threads can be brought back up to the first page, why should people create multiple threads on the same topic there are already threads about?

I was merely suggesting a way to discourage people from creating multiple threads on the same topic. Like I said, I'm not trying to discourage ANYONE from starting a thread. We love discussing things here, but there doesn't need to be 10 threads on the same topic.

Does that make sense?
05/05/2011
Contributor: kelaaa33wish kelaaa33wish
That makes sense as long as long as it isn't considered as cluttering up by posting on an old thread.
05/05/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by kelaaa33wish
That makes sense as long as long as it isn't considered as cluttering up by posting on an old thread.
No... PLEASE post on old threads! My suggestion is to eliminate MULTIPLE threads of the same topic
05/05/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Okay... there's a tab in the forum for contributors that you've marked as "favorite"



In that tab, whoever you mark as favorite, all the threads that they've posted in show up. But instead of having the last ... more
Um. Why am I not listed as one of your favorite contributors?!


Stickied posts are foremost on my want list, but I would rather not see them appear to be any different than other posts in appearance. I know when I've frequented other boards in the past, those threads that have been stickied usually appear differently than the rest, and after a while, I completely ignore them. Granted, the "+ number of posts" feature on EF makes that less likely, but I think simply staying on the first page is enough for stickied posts and there is no need to make them appear any different.

Other suggestions would include...

--Change the setting for editing from being able to edit a post at any point before the next post to a time limit (say, 10 minutes). I'm a hunter and pecker [insert joke here], so I don't see what I'm typing. When I'm trying to type fast (e.g., in a meeting or party) I don't always have a chance to make sure everything is spelled right and that the grammar is acceptable (yeah, I'm pretty anal retentive about that). Kiss the chance to edit away if someone posts a few seconds after I do.

--Maybe a gender symbol option next to our user name. I've been assumed to be female before and I nearly made the same mistake myself a few days ago with someone else. I know mouse-overing a poster's username does the same thing, but it would still be easier if I didn't have to worry about that.

--Find a way to autopage when someone gets to the end of a page. It can be frustrating to post something in a meeting or party and then have to go to a different page to read it. Autopaging would automatically load the next page so you wouldn't have to navigate to it. See Firefox's AutoPage add-on to get a better idea (Autopage doesn't seem to work with EF, or I wouldn't even bring it up): link

--I agree that the "favorite contributors" feature needs tweaking in the way BBWTT explained.

--Although the thread with all the awesome hints for navigating around EF is great, it would be nice if all the fat in that thread could be trimmed out and just have a permanent stickied thread or link that people could click to answer any of those questions. However it ends up working, I think there needs to be an easily accessible way for EFers to get the answers they seek (or may need to seek in the future).

--Have all threads that have one of my posts in them flash bright red so everyone can savor the awesomeness that is my wit.
05/05/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Um. Why am I not listed as one of your favorite contributors?!


Stickied posts are foremost on my want list, but I would rather not see them appear to be any different than other posts in appearance. I know when I've frequented ... more
Ummm... it didn't show my WHOLE LIST, for fuck's sake! ^^WHINY^^
05/05/2011
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Ummm... it didn't show my WHOLE LIST, for fuck's sake! ^^WHINY^^
BWAHAHAHAHA
05/05/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Two more thoughts:

--More smilies from which to choose.

--The ability to selectively quote people. In other words, when you click "Reply", it would be nice if you could delete some of the text so the person to whom you are responding knows exactly to what sentence or paragraph you are responding.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Jobthingy
BWAHAHAHAHA
Hmph.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Two more thoughts:

--More smilies from which to choose.

--The ability to selectively quote people. In other words, when you click "Reply", it would be nice if you could delete some of the text so the person to whom you are ... more
Ooh, I second this. And people can eliminate images from their replies...

Edit: I second his second suggestion, selective quoting. And here's a good example of why I second it.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Antipova
Ooh, I second this. And people can eliminate images from their replies...

Edit: I second his second suggestion, selective quoting. And here's a good example of why I second it.
Yes. That is especially an issue in the "Share your photos" thread. Those pages take forever to load as it is without having to load all the photos that are in the replies.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
How about bigger avatar pictures? I can't figure out some peoples avatars because the image is so small.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Annemarie Annemarie
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Originally posted by Kindred
How about bigger avatar pictures? I can't figure out some peoples avatars because the image is so small.
This would be nice--perhaps a standard 100x100 (as shown on the main contributor page).

Also, (unrelated to Kindred's post) I'd like to be able to have the Make a Post show up at the end of a thread, instead of having to click open the form. This wastes valuable time in fast-moving things like parties and meetings.
05/05/2011
Contributor: tim1724 tim1724
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Originally posted by Gary
We were talking about the idea of updating the forum. My question to all of you...



What features, additions, and fun stuff would you like to see added to your forum profile, your posts, and the forum in general?
I'd like it if the forum search results could take you to the actual page(s) of the discussion which matched your search query. Right now it just takes you to the first page.

On a topic with a lot of posts, just getting a link to the first page can be pretty useless. For example, I was trying to remember which porn star mentioned reading Terry Pratchett in a recent porn club discussion. The search let me find out that it was Stoya, but I'd have to wade through 1331 posts to actually find the list of authors she likes. (The post was on page 20 of the discussion.) I ended up having to use Google.)

I'd like a better set of page links at the bottom of long discussions. The current [20][30] etc. markers always act weird. (Like when there are twelve pages, and you're looking at page 10, then it says "… 9, 10, [20]" and clicking on [20] takes you to page 11. This always ends up confusing me during porn club.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
Kindred's suggestions kick ass and I support every one of them.

I'd also like to add that certain folders for clubs and staff announcements perhaps be locked so that only relevant posters can create a thread under it? I use the folders to find specific threads and it's not very useful, bordering on annoying, when people post under the wrong folders and clog it up.

And I know this is a far shot but I'm gonna try anyway... It'd be awesome if there were a button on a thread to PM everyone on that thread. It'd be great for Kristi to use to simmer people down if there's a disagreement or for clubs to message everyone that showed up with follow-up info, etc. I'd love to be able send out mass PMs for Birthday Club as well.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Antipova
Oh! I never noticed that. Now that I know it's there when I want it, I guess there's no need to have both printed for full view all the time. (And I'm never really so curious about the exact hour, but sometimes it's nice to know how ... more
I never noticed that either! How useful!
05/05/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Annemarie
I'd like to see a symbol (similar to the lightbulb+## that there is for new posts since you last looked at that thread) to indicate that someone's responded to something you said. For example, when ~Kris looks at the forums later, she will ... more
Ditto to this as well. I skim through new posts in a thread but it'd be nice to know if someone specifically responded to (aka quoted) me.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Two more thoughts:

--More smilies from which to choose.

--The ability to selectively quote people. In other words, when you click "Reply", it would be nice if you could delete some of the text so the person to whom you are ... more
Yesssss. More smileys and the ability to select certain text to quote.

But I'm not too keen on the gender symbol thing. Some people see themselves as gender queer, fluid, or are transitioning, or something else entirely. They might not feel very comfortable with it. When I'm in doubt, I hover over the user's picture to find out.

Don't worry, Vac. I saw your pictures and can vouch for you being male.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Darling Jen
Yesssss. More smileys and the ability to select certain text to quote.

But I'm not too keen on the gender symbol thing. Some people see themselves as gender queer, fluid, or are transitioning, or something else entirely. They might not ... more
I don't mean for the gender symbols to be mandatory, rather they could be optional. It's not a big deal either way - just a suggestion and not one of the more important ones.
05/05/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
This is more about our profile pages than the forum, but I think maybe putting a cap on the number of "favorite products" people can list would help us have a clearer view of whicht products are really their favorites. With a few exceptions of those people with very large collections, I don't think having more than, say, 30 favorite products really makes much sense.

In cases where a contributor really does have a large collection, and wants to share their two or three 'favorites' in several categories of product, maybe considering making a public wish list that displays these favorite items with a link to it on their page might be good, or else curating a personal store. So this information can still be shared, while not having literally 300 "favorite products."

Edit: I do know of one list that has about 60 items, all of which were clearly chosen for a reason and it really is information being shared, and there are likely others in that range. So maybe a cap that includes collections like these, but still I feel that when people list more than 100 products, the chances are slim that I will be able to glean much real information from it.
05/06/2011
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
I would never have thought of some of these suggestions! Some of them are really good!
05/06/2011
Contributor: Bunnycups Bunnycups
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Originally posted by tim1724
• I'd like it if the forum search results could take you to the actual page(s) of the discussion which matched your search query. Right now it just takes you to the first page.

On a topic with a lot of posts, just getting a link to the ... more
Great suggestions. I'd like these improvements as well.

I'm also for bigger user pictures.
05/06/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Gary
We were talking about the idea of updating the forum. My question to all of you...



What features, additions, and fun stuff would you like to see added to your forum profile, your posts, and the forum in general?
I don't remember what this format is called, but it is the way I like forums. It is much more organized and you can pick a color scheme. I think it is called eBoards or something. I'll try and find it.

Edit

Here it is: vBulletin

I believe there is freeware version of it off of Download.com (it is through cnet.com and I trust this site, I use it for reliable freeware all the time).


Here is a sample pic of the layout:

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05/08/2011
Contributor: Brianna91 Brianna91
Something that happens all the time is that when you go to a specific forum and the first topic will say like, updated 20 minuted ago, and you go into it and the last post could be from days ago, or a week ago. So why was it moved to the top of the thread listings with a more recent time next to it? Another really weird feature here is if you find another poster who has opinions you like, you can go to their profile to find more of their posts and instead of having their posts on their "wall" it only has posts from a completely different user name. Isn't your own wall only supposed to display your own posts?
05/09/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Brianna91
Something that happens all the time is that when you go to a specific forum and the first topic will say like, updated 20 minuted ago, and you go into it and the last post could be from days ago, or a week ago. So why was it moved to the top of the ... more
Regarding the first comment, threads get updated and bumped not only every time there is a comment put on it, but also a vote in a poll. Thus, what you are seeing as an update is undoubtedly someone voting in the poll.

As for the second one, the posts, comments, votes, etc. of every person you follow does indeed end up on your wall. If you want to see someone else's posts and only their posts, he best way to do that is by clicking the heart next to his/her name. That allows you to go to the "Favorite Contributors" tab at the top of the long list of posts and see every post that person has commented in. Unfortunately, it isn't perfect, as it is ordered by the most recent update to that post rather than the most recent post by that person. However, if you mouse-over that person's avatar next to his/her post, a box will appear that shows you what that person last wrote. It's not an ideal setup, but it should allow you to follow that person's posts a bit better than wading through everything on the wall.

Hope that helped!
05/09/2011