Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Take Me There -Trans and Genderqueer Erotica, Edited by Tristan Taormino (January 24, 8-10 PM EST)

Contributor: Willow Wand Willow Wand
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Congrats!!, and you weren't gonna come. Now aren't you glad I reminded you!!!
OMG Totally TY for dragging my ass over here!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Kiki DeLovely Kiki DeLovely
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Originally posted by Sacchi
On behalf of the LGBTQI community of erotica writers, Id like to point out that many anthologies that don't have a specifically transgender theme do have some stories that come very close to having transgender characters. Very, very close. ... more
Thanks for pointing that out, Sacchi! As a queer femme erotica writer, folks will kindly note that although I write plenty about cock in what may appear to be straight anthologies, I always leave it pretty open for interpretation what type of cock I'm talking about (silicone, home-grown transmale cock, etc.) unless I'm writing for a specifically queer publication and then I'm more free to elaborate.

Warning: plug ahead...

Y'all should feel free to check out my blog link where I post excerpts from my published works.
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Willow Wand
OMG Totally TY for dragging my ass over here!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by Top Kat
I'm curious to know which stories people liked from the book.
Besides all those already mentioned, I particularly liked "Sea of Cortez" and "Canadian Slim," partly because the style of writing especially appealed to me. I do tend to find writing style as much of a turn-on as explicit descriptions; one of the drawbacks (or advantages) of being and editor, I guess. And "The Boy the Beast Wants". Skian's writing has always blown me away. I may get more from the story than others would, though, because I know more of his background.
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Thanks for pointing that out, Sacchi! As a queer femme erotica writer, folks will kindly note that although I write plenty about cock in what may appear to be straight anthologies, I always leave it pretty open for interpretation what type of cock ... more
Definitely will check it out!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Thanks for pointing that out, Sacchi! As a queer femme erotica writer, folks will kindly note that although I write plenty about cock in what may appear to be straight anthologies, I always leave it pretty open for interpretation what type of cock ... more
Thanks, Kiki, that's great to know.
01/24/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Thanks for pointing that out, Sacchi! As a queer femme erotica writer, folks will kindly note that although I write plenty about cock in what may appear to be straight anthologies, I always leave it pretty open for interpretation what type of cock ... more
Ooh! I shall check that link out later tonight!
01/24/2012
Contributor: winterseve winterseve
Thanks Kiki DeLovely! Definitely checking it out.
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Thanks for pointing that out, Sacchi! As a queer femme erotica writer, folks will kindly note that although I write plenty about cock in what may appear to be straight anthologies, I always leave it pretty open for interpretation what type of cock ... more
Looking forward to reading it!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Fortunately for us Cleis Press offers some of them!!
Oh yes. I'm resisting mentioning my own Cleis anthologies; let's just say that a book called "Lesbian Cowboys" is bound to have a certain amount of genderfucking.
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Oh yes. I'm resisting mentioning my own Cleis anthologies; let's just say that a book called "Lesbian Cowboys" is bound to have a certain amount of genderfucking.
Holy.."Lesbian Cowboys"?? is that still in the works or already out....cuz I WANT!!!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Oh yes. I'm resisting mentioning my own Cleis anthologies; let's just say that a book called "Lesbian Cowboys" is bound to have a certain amount of genderfucking.
Ooh that SOUNDS like a good book! I may have to look up some of the mentioned authors on here; you guy's are gonna make me broke buying all of these books!
01/24/2012
Contributor: winterseve winterseve
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
Holy.."Lesbian Cowboys"?? is that still in the works or already out....cuz I WANT!!!
Ditto!
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Oh yes. I'm resisting mentioning my own Cleis anthologies; let's just say that a book called "Lesbian Cowboys" is bound to have a certain amount of genderfucking.
I had never heard of Cleis Press before coming here and they are so amazing, I honestly don't know why I had never heard of them. I have read Erotica before but LOVE the Cleis books I have recently gotten.
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Oh yes. I'm resisting mentioning my own Cleis anthologies; let's just say that a book called "Lesbian Cowboys" is bound to have a certain amount of genderfucking.
Feel free to mention away. We love your stories, Sacchi!
01/24/2012
Contributor: K101 K101
Well, I totally loved this discussion and I'm super excited to read the book! I haven't been so interested in a new book in a very long time! This was just great and thank you guys for making me feel welcome here! I will admit, being new in these discussions is a bit scary. Antipova and Wrmbreeze and all of you, thanks for being so patient with me. I absolutely cannot wait for the next discussion! I'm setting an alarm on my phone calendar! I hope the next one is as interesting and educational and exciting as this one! (

Sorry, I really am excited! Lol.

Hugs to ya'll!
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Ryuson
Ooh that SOUNDS like a good book! I may have to look up some of the mentioned authors on here; you guy's are gonna make me broke buying all of these books!
Same here.Maybe we can talk Eden into offering ebooks, because I am all for instant gratification.
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by K101
Well, I totally loved this discussion and I'm super excited to read the book! I haven't been so interested in a new book in a very long time! This was just great and thank you guys for making me feel welcome here! I will admit, being new in ... more
Hope to see you next time!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Originally posted by K101
Well, I totally loved this discussion and I'm super excited to read the book! I haven't been so interested in a new book in a very long time! This was just great and thank you guys for making me feel welcome here! I will admit, being new in ... more
Thanks for coming! It gets less intimidating with time, everyone here's always very nice and it's great to have such a real-time discussion!Have a great night!
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by K101
Well, I totally loved this discussion and I'm super excited to read the book! I haven't been so interested in a new book in a very long time! This was just great and thank you guys for making me feel welcome here! I will admit, being new in ... more
We enjoyed having you, hope you come back more often.
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
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Originally posted by K101
Well, I totally loved this discussion and I'm super excited to read the book! I haven't been so interested in a new book in a very long time! This was just great and thank you guys for making me feel welcome here! I will admit, being new in ... more
Thanks for joining us! So glad you could make it. And I'm glad to hear you enjoyed yourself. See you at the next meeting!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Top Kat Top Kat
Brenda's been trying to get on to post but her computer is acting up. She had wanted to say that one of her favorite highlights of the book was "Canadian Slim" and getting to hear Shawna Virago read the story in person was wonderful.
01/24/2012
Contributor: Sacchi Sacchi
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
Holy.."Lesbian Cowboys"?? is that still in the works or already out....cuz I WANT!!!
Already out, and won the Lambda Literary Award for lesbian erotica in 2010. And now available as an audiobook as well as print and Kindle.
01/24/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
Same here.Maybe we can talk Eden into offering ebooks, because I am all for instant gratification.
I hope not, I'd be sitting here with my Kindle charging book after book to my debit card...
01/24/2012
Contributor: winterseve winterseve
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Originally posted by K101
Well, I totally loved this discussion and I'm super excited to read the book! I haven't been so interested in a new book in a very long time! This was just great and thank you guys for making me feel welcome here! I will admit, being new in ... more
It's always a good time. I love to read so these free books are better. And then i have something to read to get in the mood or to feed my mind. Book club makes me happy.
01/24/2012
Contributor: Top Kat Top Kat
Hey y'all, I need to take off. Hope everyone has a fabulous night!
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Already out, and won the Lambda Literary Award for lesbian erotica in 2010. And now available as an audiobook as well as print and Kindle.
hmm, i will have to hunt that one down!
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Top Kat
Hey y'all, I need to take off. Hope everyone has a fabulous night!
night!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Sacchi Sacchi
With a few minutes left to go (but it's okay to hang around,) I'll post more of Tristan's introduction:

As befits an anthology about genderfucking, there are several pronoun variations you’ll come across in the text, including ze/hir/hir (which some readers will be familiar with) and hy/ hym/hys. Slowly, these new words are beginning to seep into our consciousness and people are using them more frequently in conversation and writing. Although this departure from she/ her/her and he/him/his may distract you at first, I challenge you not to get caught up in their newness and miss the depth of these stories in the process. The writers who chose to use these words have done so deliberately, because they best describe their characters. In the process, they push the language about gender- variant people to be more descriptive and less binary. And those who use he/she pronouns, do so in wonderful ways; there is something deliciously dissonant about reading about his clit, her dick, his tits and her scrotum. What all this reveals, of course, is just how limited our language is for describing people of other genders.

Our language is also severely limited when it comes to describing the bodies of transpeople, bodies that don’t conform to norms and may not look like other bodies. How do we eroticize these bodies, talk about them in dirty ways, worship and respect them? In several of the pieces, there is a tension between body image and the bodies we imagine. The spectrum of bodies we were born with, bodies we live in, bodies we want and bodies we create is present in some way in all of the stories. As characters work to quiet discomfort and shame and embrace acceptance, it’s clear that the body is a place of much more than simply pleasure. It can be a site of self-doubt, pain and memory, but it’s also one of craving, fantasy, transgression and, ultimately, freedom. In Julia Serano’s “Little Blue Thing,” when the narrator’s body betrays her, she finds a humorous way to overcome it. The couple in “Somebody’s Watching Me,” by Alicia E. Goranson, shape-shift into different bodies as they have sex. With a nod to both a narcis- sistic phase of gender transition and transdyke desire, the woman in Tobi Hill-Meyer’s “Self Reflection” has the opportunity to explore the body of her future self—and gladly takes it. The main character in “Face Pack,” by Penelope Mansfield, manages to turn a misogynist Japanese porn trope on its head—rolling a celebration of her smooth skin and an empowered filthy girl fantasy into one surprising scene. The Daddy in Toni Amato’s “That’s What Little Girls Are Made Of” rides a dangerous line, as he takes a sharp blade to a cunt that has seen a different kind of knife.

Be prepared for cock to have multiple delicious meanings in these stories. Get ready for what you might think is a pussy or a cock to be called something else entirely. Some cocks are strapped on then thrown off to the side, as happens in one guy’s beach adventure in “The Hitchhiker,” by Sinclair Sexsmith. Some stay put no matter what. Others are always there, but not always accessible, as in Dean Scarborough’s “Shoes Are Meant to Get You Somewhere,” where a submissive gets a taste of a new kind of cock. “He had never, ever heard that tone in Hayden’s voice before—sometimes the man had moaned and whispered dirty things to him before when Oscar had sucked Hayden’s cock, but never this cock, and his voice had never sounded like this before.”

Speaking of cocks, I worked diligently to represent a diversity of genders, sexual orientations, identities and bodies in the anthology. However, I want to acknowledge there is one group that feels the least represented: transwomen who’ve had bottom surgery. I can speculate about a number of reasons why this might be, but I want to challenge writers to tell the erotic stories of these women, and editors, including me, to seek them out and publish them.
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Ryuson
I hope not, I'd be sitting here with my Kindle charging book after book to my debit card...
me too. I have to physically restrain myself when books I want are available. Good thing ( insert nameless book vendor here) offers free ebooks or I would never have any money.
01/24/2012