Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: Take Me There -Trans and Genderqueer Erotica, Edited by Tristan Taormino (January 24, 8-10 PM EST)

Contributor: NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by Antipova
"Gender is fluid in all cases. YOU decide what parts of gender you want to express. It's for your benefit. Not anyone else's. "

I'm glad you said that, it's so important!

Even though I'm cis-female, I'm ... more
Oh yes. Society has made the lines of gender very solid when in reality they are very blurred. It is amazing for anyone to be recognized for who they are as a person instead of being stereotyped. That is with everyone. Straight, gay, bisexual, ftm, mtf, bigender, white, black, purple......

Every person wants to be recognized for who they truly are as an individual and not grouped into classifications
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
Alright you guys, I'm out but it was lovely chatting with you all. I will be sure to get rid of my lurking ways so I can keep having fantastic discussions like tonight!


See you all next time!
Yes please stop lurking! We really enjoyed having you join us. Have a wonderful rest of your evening. Thanks for coming!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Kiki DeLovely Kiki DeLovely
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone! I can hardly keep up! (Would love to respond to each of you personally, but I'm dyslexic, so it's hard to just keep up with reading everything!!) And thanks so much for all the praise! I'm a fairly new writer (have only begun to publish in the last year and a half and I can't tell you how much joy it brings me to know that folks not only enjoy my work, but also that they can identify with my characters, perhaps it gets them thinking in new and interesting ways, and expands the ever-evolving world of sexuality.

To be included in this anthology, in particular, is a huge honor because I think that Tristan and all the authors in it are doing such crucial work to help educate (in a really fun way!) about trans and genderqueer issues.

I wanted to say, Sacchi, I loved your idea of gender as a compass. I often say that instead of a line, I see gender as more dimensional, such as a sphere -- so many varying directions in which one can head, so much depth there.
01/24/2012
Contributor: K101 K101
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
nakedreaderbookclub @gmail .com instead of liz it goes to Laurel( at least thats what Liz said)
Oh! OK. Thanks so much for clearing that up. I did E-mail both of those last week. like Willow Wand, I didn't get a reply. I'm glad you did put that out there though since a couple of us were confused and I start giving off crazy, wrong advice! Lol. Sorry.
01/24/2012
Contributor: Brendada Brendada
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
Alright you guys, I'm out but it was lovely chatting with you all. I will be sure to get rid of my lurking ways so I can keep having fantastic discussions like tonight!


See you all next time!
send postcards!
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
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Originally posted by specialKandL
ok i gotta get going now! hope to see everyone at the next naked reader book club!
Thanks for joining us! See you next time!
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Ryuson
Wow, what a giveaway! Congrats, by the way!
thanks!
01/24/2012
Contributor: NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
Transgender erotica is out there, it may be a little hard to find but like I said before, it's a niche that's growing and there is a community out there.


And you gots the interwebs, you can find everything on the interwebs!
Its good to know it is actually out there.

Okay i feel stupid for asking but what is interwebs??
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by K101
Oh! OK. Thanks so much for clearing that up. I did E-mail both of those last week. like Willow Wand, I didn't get a reply. I'm glad you did put that out there though since a couple of us were confused and I start giving off crazy, wrong ... more
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by winterseve
totally going to it! and congrats!
thanks!
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by NoOneNosMe
Its good to know it is actually out there.

Okay i feel stupid for asking but what is interwebs??
INternet
01/24/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by bzzingbee
Another story I loved was 'Punching Bag'
! Absolutely agree. That was really hot. That was also (I think) the only one that was fantasy-enough that I couldn't quite imagine it happening in real life, but it was really hot to imagine.



Also, "You Don't Know Jack" was really really good.
01/24/2012
Contributor: K101 K101
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I like learning/reading about people who are different yet not quite so different than I am.
Me too Wrmbreeze! It's really interesting too learn, even if you don't relate to them 100% or don't live the exact same lifestyle.
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by K101
Me too Wrmbreeze! It's really interesting too learn, even if you don't relate to them 100% or don't live the exact same lifestyle.
I think that should be a college course.
01/24/2012
Contributor: bluekaren bluekaren
I'm here...for a few minutes anyways!
01/24/2012
Contributor: NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
INternet
Ahhh okay lol I feel dumb now
01/24/2012
Contributor: Brendada Brendada
I love that Sacchi is so patient with us and never uses this:
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by bluekaren
I'm here...for a few minutes anyways!
Welcome!
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
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Originally posted by Kiki DeLovely
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone! I can hardly keep up! (Would love to respond to each of you personally, but I'm dyslexic, so it's hard to just keep up with reading everything!!) And thanks so much for all the praise! I'm a fairly ... more
My son is dyslexic as well, so I can completely understand the difficulty of trying to read all of this. It's hard enough for all of us to keep up.

And bravo for you to be brave enough to become a writer with how difficult it can be to read and spell with dyslexia. But not only that, a newly published writer of erotica.
01/24/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by melovecoffee
Transgender erotica is out there, it may be a little hard to find but like I said before, it's a niche that's growing and there is a community out there.


And you gots the interwebs, you can find everything on the interwebs!
I hope it grows and grows!
01/24/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by NoOneNosMe
Ahhh okay lol I feel dumb now
hey, I am the one who got CIS wrong..
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
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Originally posted by Brendada
I love that Sacchi is so patient with us and never uses this:
LOL! Right?
01/24/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I think that should be a college course.
Oh totally! It should be a requirement!
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by Antipova
! Absolutely agree. That was really hot. That was also (I think) the only one that was fantasy-enough that I couldn't quite imagine it happening in real life, but it was really hot to imagine.



Also, "You Don't Know ... more
Yes, I had a hard time narrowing down the stories I selected for my review and 'You Don't Know Jack' was sooo hard to exclude...guess I coulda just put it in there anyways, lol
01/24/2012
Contributor: Sacchi Sacchi
Before more folks have to leave, I'll post the rest of Sinclair's interview with Tristan:

"What are you hoping it accomplishes, or who are you hoping it reaches?

I hope it kick starts a new genre of trans and genderqueer erotica. If this book does well, I hope I can make it a series. I hope it reaches people from all different walks of life. Seeing our longing, desire, fantasies, and sex lives on the page is so important to gender and sexual minorities. I want this book to open up a dialogue among people about their own gender identity and how it impacts their sexuality. I also hope to push at the language boundaries a little. Writers and characters in this book use alternative pronouns like ze/hir/hir as well as the less common hy/hym/hys. Slowly, these new words—along with the use of they, them, their—are beginning to seep into our consciousness and people are using them more frequently in conversation. I want to see that shift reflected in our literature as well. Plus, I personally love to read phrases that challenge binaries, like his clit, her dick, or his tits.

One of the authors recently got a letter from someone who read the book. The reader wrote, “I’m not sure how to describe how important it was for me to read your story, because it hit upon so many facets of my identity. I’m female-bodied and femme and most people assume that means cis. I’m pretty sure I’m not cis and I’m darn sure I’m not trans, so what the hell does that make me? I know, but I didn’t think anybody else did until I read [this] line [in your story].” That’s the kind of reaction I was hoping for—and one that makes all the hard work so worthwhile.

Is erotica more than just jerk off material? Is it political, or activism?

I absolutely believe that writing and publishing erotica, especially for minorities, is a political act. We must write our own stories, our own truths, otherwise our detractors and enemies will do it for us. When I first handed in the anthology to Cleis Press, publisher Felice Newman called me and said, “I want your introduction to be required reading for my staff. It’s about so much more than erotic writing or trans and genderqueer erotica. This book has the potential to shed light on gender and sexuality in a new way and bring more awareness and understanding about it.” If Take Me There can accomplish that, it helps support the amazing work of transgender rights activists to increase visibility and affect public policy.

What influenced you to do a genderqueer and trans anthology?

I really feel like it’s time. When I passed the Best Lesbian Erotica torch to Kathleen Warnock, I was ready for a project that was entirely new, something that hadn’t been done before. I hesitated at first because I am not trans. But my partner of ten and a half years who identifies as trans and genderqueer really encouraged me to go for it. That’s one of the cool things about the book: some of the writers are trans and others aren’t, and it’s the same with narrators and characters. So, there are a lot of different voices represented, including those of transfolk as well as their partners and lovers.
01/24/2012
Contributor: NoOneNosMe NoOneNosMe
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
hey, I am the one who got CIS wrong..
Lol. Cool we are even!
01/24/2012
Contributor: removedacnt removedacnt
Along with the quality of the writing and stories, and the hotness of the topics, how has reading this book deepened your appreciation or expanded your understand for different lifestyles?
01/24/2012
Contributor: bzzingbee bzzingbee
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Originally posted by bluekaren
I'm here...for a few minutes anyways!
welcome!
01/24/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
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Originally posted by Sacchi
Before more folks have to leave, I'll post the rest of Sinclair's interview with Tristan:

"What are you hoping it accomplishes, or who are you hoping it reaches?

I hope it kick starts a new genre of trans and genderqueer ... more
I bet on Eden a lot more people will start to seek out this genre now that we've been introduced to it
01/24/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Willow Wand
Ok, because I am new to all these terms, I NEED to know...what does CIS mean? I have seen it in multiple locations lately, but can't find out it's meaning.
It comes from chemistry (or at least, organic chemistry is where I learned it) and it's just kind of a pun.

In chemistry you can have to isomers --- the same chemical formula, but built differently. In a "cis" molecule, the two functional groups are on the same "side" of the main chain/ring. In a "trans" molecule, the two functional groups are on the opposite sides of the main chain/ring. So Trans and Cis in latin mean "opposite" and "next to."

But in terms of gender, since "trans" means "switching from one to the other," they just borrowed "cis" to mean "born one way and staying that way."

Li'l chemistry pun. I was happy when I learned they called cis-folk 'cis.'
01/24/2012