I think he needs a nice strong Domme to put him in his place

Yeesh. no offense hun, but it sounds like he may need to talk to more women. I know when I'm ovulating because my ovaries start to mildly hurt and my sex drive spikes. I'm pretty sure that I don't need someone else to tell me that I don't know my own body when I've been ovulating and menstruating for over 8 years.

Most women who are in tune with their body can estimate when they're ovulating. I've only known a few women who are unsure.

Damn it - I stuffed up and didn't do a "can't tell" voting section.
Do'h!

Not to burst your bubble but I tried the ovulating by checking you discharge listing to body signs (I forget what the method is called) thingy and I ended up pregnant anyways....

It sounds like a difficult situation and I hope things clear up for you. :/ He can't really tell you you don't know your own body, you know?

i personally can't tell, but i know there are women who do. don't let his arrogance get you down! fuck 'em.

What a fecking prig. The sheer disrespect to you disgusts me. Masters should treat their subs better than that!

He's an arse for treating you that way. I don't know when I'm ovulating, but then again I haven't had a period for over 3 years thanks to my depo. Nor do I ever need to keep track of it as I'm not having children (getting sterilized,whoo!). But I do think some women know when they're fertile, it's so different for every uterus-bearer out there though.

Definitely not something to tell your sub, they're a submissive, not a doormat.

Oh Shellz!

On the actual topic of the argument, I can tell when I'm ovulating from my left ovary because it gives me a twinge for the day+- surrounding, but the right one doesn't so I check my temperature too. But every woman's different, so it might be possible for a scholar to publish an article saying it's impossible---but there are also articles published saying the G-Spot doesn't exist! It's always good to read outside opinions... but I, personally, have very good anecdotal evidence that makes me believe the G-Spot exists, no matter what I might read.

But aside from the topic of the argument---it really sounds like he wasn't respecting you. If that's a trend rather than just you both randomly having a bad day on the same day, I think I would be upset if I was in your shoes also. Both members of a relationship need to be able to respect each other---whether that's an egalitarian relationship or a Dom/sub relationship. If a person (whether or not a Dom) doesn't want to accept data that you have collected from your own senses, and will have an argument about it instead of coming to a common ground compromise, that person might not be the best for your mental health to be around.

A decent compromise, to my mind, would be "Okay, I see that your body tells you when you're ovulating---but since I'm relying on second-hand feedback because I can't sense your hormone levels, it still makes me nervous, so we should use an additional form of birth control as well." That way, even if he doesn't think your claim makes sense (which is his right) at least he's just protecting himself against possible negative consequences while still acknowledging that you know your body better than anyone else does.

Anyway. My two cents. But I hope your day improves!

Thanks all.
I'm feeling better after reading the comments.

I'm also starting to think that he may not think he needs to have respect for me cause I'm only an online sub. But even so, he should still have respect if he wants me to stick around.
I guess he just isn't the right Master for me in any situation.

My husband can tell when I am ovulating (if I am not on birth control) and when I am going to start my period (and not because of PMS!).

I can't say anything that hasn't already been well said. So I'll just add some more hugs, and remind you that you AREN'T crazy!

When I ovulated, I always got pain more from one side than other, so I always knew which ovary was releasing the egg that month. Now I've been on the pill for so long that I can barely remember... but you know what you know about your body. And you do deserve respect from your Dom, and I'm glad you know that!

I can sometimes tell if my GF is ovulating - not always though because sometimes she's away or I'm distracted/busy and not tuned into her body specifically. She smells sweeter and more fragrant than usual during ovulation, and her sex drive increases. Both of those are wonderful things

Why do you have that online "Master" who doesn't know #@@# anyways?

You should flip it on him and ask him if he's in tune with his male hormone cycle. That should make things a lot more interesting.

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I can usually (but not always).

What a doof !

Ovulating is a large and relatively taxing biological event - and there are certainly signs other than temperature alone.

I noticed it as a young teenager - in the middle of my cycle, I'd notice random ovary pains and heavier discharge - so I looked it up and found out about ovulation (which wasn't really covered in school).

There are most certainly medically verified signs.

Out of curiosity, I asked one of my subs if I am arrogant. He nearly died laughing.

So, not all dominants are arrogant. And from my experience as a dominant, you really need to have some kind of respect for your subs, in order to be successful.

It sounds to me like he just isn't a very good master. Not only does he need a good strong Domme to put him in his place, he needs a good strong Domme to show him how its really done!



P.S. I've been on birth control and haven't ovulated for a very long time, but when I did. I could tell.

I can tell, I use the position of my cervix and my cervical mucus to tell, but barring that, I also get ovulation cramps, so it's pretty obvious to me. My lover can usually tell, too, though because I tend to act like a bitch in heat and cannot get my mind out of the gutter.

I don't normally ovulate because of birth control pills, but when I do I can tell pretty easily. I don't think my fiance would be able to tell.

I know for sure. Your cervical mucus increases. I didn't notice it as much before my I had my son (who is my 2nd) but after him, I REALLY notice.

Thanks all

We spoke about it against last night cause I just wasn't feeling comfortable about the whole situation.
He thought I was talking about telling when a female on the street (when passing by) was ovulating. I naturally just assumed he knew I meant the female herself or her sexual partner would know by viewing the mucus. But we were clearly on opposite wave lengths that evening. So I have to take some blame for that.

I'm thinking he probably hasn't experienced it from past relationships cause they would have been on the pill. That might explain things - some.

I also told him that I find it insulting when someone I care about says something I believe is "bullshit". That seems to be his way of being blunt with no insult intended. Normally I'm up for blunt, but I didn't deal well hearing it from him.
I HOPE that in future he will tone that bluntness down when in my company.
I'd also like to hope he is different in person ... I know it's harder online cause ya can't hear the tone in the person's voice and I have taken other things the very wrong way. And he has also (like in this subject) taken things the wrong way with what I have said. I have a thing of often thinking something, but not explaining it fully cause in my mind, I know exactly what I mean. I know I have done that in the odd review and had to go back to fix it up cause to someone else it doesn't come across in the way I mean it...lol.
Not to make excuses for him, but I'm wondering if I'm (by no means fully to blame) but I perhaps didn't handle the situation in the light manner it was said in - I put too much focus on the negative side of it. Like mum said today, I have a habit of doing that when I'm in a certain mood.

Still, he does have an arrogant side. I know I do too....hehehe.
He is self-taught, so he has his own style which is what I fell for. He is my first Dom. I was on a Dom/sub site and I wasn't keen on what the Doms there expected from their subs. I know I wouldn't fit in with their style. I also need a Dom who is extremely patient and can deal with me when I have my rebel moments...hehe. I couldn't be the 'perfect' sub all the time - it's not me and I'd get bored. I often wonder how many Doms are out there who are the style I require.

I haven't noticed if I'm hornier around ovulation or not. I think I'm pretty even all the way through. But then, I have a high sex drive anyway. I'm going to take more notice though cause most say they are hornier.

I'm the SAME way. I'd have been steaming hot if someone, especially someone that cannot know for sure, told me I didn't know my body! Pisses me off! Actually, it's totally possible to know when you're ovulating. It isn't hard to learn the changes. The first few days of your period or right before you feel more confident, during or before your period you know it's coming because the symptoms. YOU CAN know when you are ovulating too.

Talking is the best.

Now that you mention knowing if OTHER women are ovulating...

I remember a study they did that showed strippers got more tips than average when ovulating, fewer on their period - and ones on BC were "average" all the time.

Maybe it was behaviour, maybe it was some subtle physical hint - the look of the body, one of those imperceptible smells, I don't know.