I don't put much stock in this study. It doesn't mesh with my personal experience. But now that I've lost weight and they've gotten smaller again I can go braless longer without them hurting.
15 year study finds that bras may be useless.
05/05/2013
Wow, interesting well, I think it's more of a comfotprt thing for me... I like knowing no one can see my nipples? I get cold a lot
05/05/2013
My breasts are small enough (32C at present) that I can get away with going without, but bouncy enough that I can feel self-conscious and notice that people are staring if I leave the house without one. If I'm at home by myself, I don't wear a bra. I don't own a sports bra, but then again nearly all of my exercising takes place in my own apartment. If I'm feeling too bouncy, a tight shirt is sufficient for me. If I'm sweating, I don't want a bra to be involved.
The only times I've had problems going bralass were from nipple chafing with a shirt that was rough, and from receiving unwanted attention when I'm walking around outside. Then again, I've been honked at when I'm fully clothed with a coat on, so I don't particularly see a reason to dress more conservatively because some people are jerks who feel like they have the right to stare or scream at women.
I find the study comforting, but I'd also love to see more research on the subject. I wouldn't go into a professional situation without a bra (or enough layers to obscure nipples and jiggling), but I'm comfortable without one in many situations, even if I get a few unwanted stares.
The only times I've had problems going bralass were from nipple chafing with a shirt that was rough, and from receiving unwanted attention when I'm walking around outside. Then again, I've been honked at when I'm fully clothed with a coat on, so I don't particularly see a reason to dress more conservatively because some people are jerks who feel like they have the right to stare or scream at women.
I find the study comforting, but I'd also love to see more research on the subject. I wouldn't go into a professional situation without a bra (or enough layers to obscure nipples and jiggling), but I'm comfortable without one in many situations, even if I get a few unwanted stares.
05/07/2013
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It is someones option to do, and I'm not saying you are bad if you don't wear one. On my experience I worked at Lane Bryant, a plus size store, when some women come in without bras and their boobs hanging way down there it doesn't look good. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I believe that some ladies with smaller breasts can go more without one, but I was mainly talking about the larger breasted ladies.
Originally posted by
VeganChick (is Gone)
I don't really think this is fair. People have a right to go braless. Keep applying this standard and we would have to say goodbye to tattoos, piercings, certain hairdos, certain clothing styles, etc. just because others "don't like
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I don't really think this is fair. People have a right to go braless. Keep applying this standard and we would have to say goodbye to tattoos, piercings, certain hairdos, certain clothing styles, etc. just because others "don't like seeing" them. You can't force your personal preferences onto others.
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05/09/2013
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Ohhh, speaking of pajama pants, have you tried the bamboo lounge pants sold here? They come in black or teal, and they're incredibly soft and silky. Even the wide elastic band is comfortable!
Originally posted by
VeganChick (is Gone)
"Do you, by chance, have trouble finding sex toys that are gentle enough for you, as well?"
Not really, I think I'm just sensitive about clothing and texture on my body. I had a lot of trouble when I was little with sensory ... more
Not really, I think I'm just sensitive about clothing and texture on my body. I had a lot of trouble when I was little with sensory ... more
"Do you, by chance, have trouble finding sex toys that are gentle enough for you, as well?"
Not really, I think I'm just sensitive about clothing and texture on my body. I had a lot of trouble when I was little with sensory integration- I couldn't wear a lot of clothes because of the way they felt. My mom says I was very hard to shop with. This has gotten a lot better since I've gotten older, but I still prefer loose, baggy clothing, or none at all. I can't stay in jeans an entire day, if I'm at home I have to change, and sometimes I just wear pajama pants out. But I haven't had a problem with sex toys as of yet. *crossing my fingers* less
Not really, I think I'm just sensitive about clothing and texture on my body. I had a lot of trouble when I was little with sensory integration- I couldn't wear a lot of clothes because of the way they felt. My mom says I was very hard to shop with. This has gotten a lot better since I've gotten older, but I still prefer loose, baggy clothing, or none at all. I can't stay in jeans an entire day, if I'm at home I have to change, and sometimes I just wear pajama pants out. But I haven't had a problem with sex toys as of yet. *crossing my fingers* less
05/10/2013
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Gorgeous, the trouble is that you're judging these "larger breasted ladies" based on how their breasts look (to you) without a bra. Yes, we all have that voice in our heads that criticizes others, especially other women, when they don't look the way the magazine and television and billboard and internet ads tell us we should. But that doesn't mean you have to say it out loud, or write it in a public forum, and perpetuate these ideas that women are always to be judged based on our appearances, first and foremost. The fact that some people will dislike the way a given woman looks without a bra is not a good reason for her to wear one. A woman should wear a bra if it makes HER more comfortable, not because it makes OTHERS more comfortable.
Originally posted by
gorgeous
It is someones option to do, and I'm not saying you are bad if you don't wear one. On my experience I worked at Lane Bryant, a plus size store, when some women come in without bras and their boobs hanging way down there it doesn't look
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It is someones option to do, and I'm not saying you are bad if you don't wear one. On my experience I worked at Lane Bryant, a plus size store, when some women come in without bras and their boobs hanging way down there it doesn't look good. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I believe that some ladies with smaller breasts can go more without one, but I was mainly talking about the larger breasted ladies.
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If I were to always do things based on what makes others comfortable, I would never be able to hold my partner's hand in public.
05/10/2013
I'm a C cup and I can't imagine Zumba class without a bra! I definitely need the support when I exercise or do any sort of activity even if it's just cleaning the house. If I'm just sitting around watching TV, I'll go without a bra.
05/10/2013
I wouldn't doubt it, but I'm use to wearing one and I typically feel more comfortable wearing one when in public.
05/11/2013
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I can't imagine not wearing a bra. Although I don't use the ones with an underwire, I do use a lot of sport bras & well fitted bras by places like Victoria's secret. I have C's so they're big enough for me, and I exercise a lot...I couldn't imagine having my chest bounce around more than it already does!
Originally posted by
bratcat
A 15 year study of 330 women ages 18 to 35, conducted by french professor Jean-Denis Rouillon, found that wearing an underwire bra may actually lead to having "saggier' breast. The study found that over time breast would gain more muscle
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A 15 year study of 330 women ages 18 to 35, conducted by french professor Jean-Denis Rouillon, found that wearing an underwire bra may actually lead to having "saggier' breast. The study found that over time breast would gain more muscle tone to support themselves and nipples would lift; as well as stating those who have larger breast may see less back problems over time when one does not wear a bra. To quote the article on Huffington Post, "When bras are worn, the restrictive material prevents such tissue from growing, which may actually accelerate sagging, the study concluded."
However there are a few things this study has not seem to have taken into account or mention, such as breast size or if the women in the study were wearing a well fitted bra.
As someone who has a DDD chest, and often goes bra-less, i can see how some of this material dose hold up. I have only started to go with out a bra in public more often very recently, noticing my back problems have started to subside some. Although, any other benefits mentioned, i have yet to see or notice such as a natural lift in my nipples or my breast gaining any sort of muscle tone.
Still i have some issues with the study since it doesnt mention how many women (usually quoted as "70% or more") wear the wrong size bra, and that many bra companies have their own method of sizing, as well as any mention of the average breast size measured for the study.
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However there are a few things this study has not seem to have taken into account or mention, such as breast size or if the women in the study were wearing a well fitted bra.
As someone who has a DDD chest, and often goes bra-less, i can see how some of this material dose hold up. I have only started to go with out a bra in public more often very recently, noticing my back problems have started to subside some. Although, any other benefits mentioned, i have yet to see or notice such as a natural lift in my nipples or my breast gaining any sort of muscle tone.
Still i have some issues with the study since it doesnt mention how many women (usually quoted as "70% or more") wear the wrong size bra, and that many bra companies have their own method of sizing, as well as any mention of the average breast size measured for the study.
How do you feel about this article, and are you someone who had seen benefits from wearing/not wearing a bra? less
05/11/2013
I've never been sure about this; I've read sources over the years about both sides (wearing/ not wear a bra leading to sagging). But the fact is I have to wear bras in my daily life no matter what a study says, so in a way it doesn't matter.
05/12/2013
CutiePatootie
I think that you should do what works for you. I personally go with a bra mostly because I'm nipping all the time and like to not have them poking out through my clothes. It creates attention that I'm not always willing to deal with. Days I'm staying home, I might wear no bra. Seriously, find your happy medium.
05/12/2013
I'm only a B cup but I wear a bra every day, I've heard of this study before but I don't know how true it is. It could be haha but I don't feel comfortable out in public without a bra...*Ping* *Ping* HEADLIGHTS? No thank you.
It's an interesting study though
It's an interesting study though
05/12/2013
I like my bra lol
05/12/2013
I don't understand the worry if your breast are saggy in the first place. Does it somehow make the breast less attractive if it sags? I think not! They are boobs! Watch them jiggle and enjoy the view.
Sagging is something that most women will have no matter the size, how often they wear a bra, how many children they have or not, etc. It's about your skins elasticity. Just like some women bounce back from pregnancy without a stretch mark and others keep the weight.
I only wear a bra when I leave the house or company comes over. They kill my chest. I have J's. If I am playing Kinect or chasing my children around...I must wear a regular bra with a sports bra over top of it to stop them from moving because that will make them sore too. However, just being in a bra kills my breast. They start to ache.
Sagging is something that most women will have no matter the size, how often they wear a bra, how many children they have or not, etc. It's about your skins elasticity. Just like some women bounce back from pregnancy without a stretch mark and others keep the weight.
I only wear a bra when I leave the house or company comes over. They kill my chest. I have J's. If I am playing Kinect or chasing my children around...I must wear a regular bra with a sports bra over top of it to stop them from moving because that will make them sore too. However, just being in a bra kills my breast. They start to ache.
05/14/2013
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There are NO skeletal muscles in the breast which respond to exercise or lack of it!
Originally posted by
bratcat
A 15 year study of 330 women ages 18 to 35, conducted by french professor Jean-Denis Rouillon, found that wearing an underwire bra may actually lead to having "saggier' breast. The study found that over time breast would gain more muscle
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A 15 year study of 330 women ages 18 to 35, conducted by french professor Jean-Denis Rouillon, found that wearing an underwire bra may actually lead to having "saggier' breast. The study found that over time breast would gain more muscle tone to support themselves and nipples would lift; as well as stating those who have larger breast may see less back problems over time when one does not wear a bra. To quote the article on Huffington Post, "When bras are worn, the restrictive material prevents such tissue from growing, which may actually accelerate sagging, the study concluded."
However there are a few things this study has not seem to have taken into account or mention, such as breast size or if the women in the study were wearing a well fitted bra.
As someone who has a DDD chest, and often goes bra-less, i can see how some of this material dose hold up. I have only started to go with out a bra in public more often very recently, noticing my back problems have started to subside some. Although, any other benefits mentioned, i have yet to see or notice such as a natural lift in my nipples or my breast gaining any sort of muscle tone.
Still i have some issues with the study since it doesnt mention how many women (usually quoted as "70% or more") wear the wrong size bra, and that many bra companies have their own method of sizing, as well as any mention of the average breast size measured for the study.
How do you feel about this article, and are you someone who had seen benefits from wearing/not wearing a bra? less
However there are a few things this study has not seem to have taken into account or mention, such as breast size or if the women in the study were wearing a well fitted bra.
As someone who has a DDD chest, and often goes bra-less, i can see how some of this material dose hold up. I have only started to go with out a bra in public more often very recently, noticing my back problems have started to subside some. Although, any other benefits mentioned, i have yet to see or notice such as a natural lift in my nipples or my breast gaining any sort of muscle tone.
Still i have some issues with the study since it doesnt mention how many women (usually quoted as "70% or more") wear the wrong size bra, and that many bra companies have their own method of sizing, as well as any mention of the average breast size measured for the study.
How do you feel about this article, and are you someone who had seen benefits from wearing/not wearing a bra? less
Aside from very small muscles, which control nipple erectile function and milk ejection, the female breast is completely devoid of muscles. It's a bag of skin, fat, milk ducts and some lymphatic tissue. None of these are controlled by muscles that connect to the skeletal system and so do not benefit from "exercise" or lack of it.
So, honestly, I think (as a nurse and a person who read medical studies regularly and knows human anatomy and physiology) that this study is absolutely ridiculous with it's claims of "muscles in the breast."
There is NO muscle that could cause the "nipple to lift." It ridiculous and physiologically impossible. The tiny muscles in the nipple ONLY control erectility and milk ejection. There is no way for the muscles to "lift" the nipple in any way. And these tiny muscles in the nipple are not able to be under any conscious control. (Any more than you could cause or stop goose bumps from forming, as the tiny muscles in the nipple are similar to the muscles that control hair rising and goose bumps... in other words you have NO control over them and they do NOT benefit from exercise.)
I don't know that bras stop sagging, most sag is due to size, heredity and number of full term pregnancies, but it certainly doesn't hurt. HOW could an underwire CAUSE sagging? If you know anatomy and physiology, it makes absolutely NO sense.
05/14/2013
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I want a "THIS" button option for P'Gell's response!
Originally posted by
P'Gell
There are NO skeletal muscles in the breast which respond to exercise or lack of it!
Aside from very small muscles, which control nipple erectile function and milk ejection, the female breast is completely devoid of muscles. It's a bag ... more
Aside from very small muscles, which control nipple erectile function and milk ejection, the female breast is completely devoid of muscles. It's a bag ... more
There are NO skeletal muscles in the breast which respond to exercise or lack of it!
Aside from very small muscles, which control nipple erectile function and milk ejection, the female breast is completely devoid of muscles. It's a bag of skin, fat, milk ducts and some lymphatic tissue. None of these are controlled by muscles that connect to the skeletal system and so do not benefit from "exercise" or lack of it.
So, honestly, I think (as a nurse and a person who read medical studies regularly and knows human anatomy and physiology) that this study is absolutely ridiculous with it's claims of "muscles in the breast."
There is NO muscle that could cause the "nipple to lift." It ridiculous and physiologically impossible. The tiny muscles in the nipple ONLY control erectility and milk ejection. There is no way for the muscles to "lift" the nipple in any way. And these tiny muscles in the nipple are not able to be under any conscious control. (Any more than you could cause or stop goose bumps from forming, as the tiny muscles in the nipple are similar to the muscles that control hair rising and goose bumps... in other words you have NO control over them and they do NOT benefit from exercise.)
I don't know that bras stop sagging, most sag is due to size, heredity and number of full term pregnancies, but it certainly doesn't hurt. HOW could an underwire CAUSE sagging? If you know anatomy and physiology, it makes absolutely NO sense. less
Aside from very small muscles, which control nipple erectile function and milk ejection, the female breast is completely devoid of muscles. It's a bag of skin, fat, milk ducts and some lymphatic tissue. None of these are controlled by muscles that connect to the skeletal system and so do not benefit from "exercise" or lack of it.
So, honestly, I think (as a nurse and a person who read medical studies regularly and knows human anatomy and physiology) that this study is absolutely ridiculous with it's claims of "muscles in the breast."
There is NO muscle that could cause the "nipple to lift." It ridiculous and physiologically impossible. The tiny muscles in the nipple ONLY control erectility and milk ejection. There is no way for the muscles to "lift" the nipple in any way. And these tiny muscles in the nipple are not able to be under any conscious control. (Any more than you could cause or stop goose bumps from forming, as the tiny muscles in the nipple are similar to the muscles that control hair rising and goose bumps... in other words you have NO control over them and they do NOT benefit from exercise.)
I don't know that bras stop sagging, most sag is due to size, heredity and number of full term pregnancies, but it certainly doesn't hurt. HOW could an underwire CAUSE sagging? If you know anatomy and physiology, it makes absolutely NO sense. less
05/14/2013
I wonder if they are really talking about going without a bra or about wearing say a sports bra or bralet which would contain without the underwires. Speaking of underwires I wear a bra everyday (although my boobs are now so small it's hardly necessary for support) and my mom thinks I'm stupid to do so because underwires cause blockages in your lymph nodes.
Personally I wear a bra because I LOVE how it looks. I feel sexier, less self conscious of my bra size (because I gain at least a cup) and look better proportioned (at least to my eyes) really my bra GIVES me boobs and I was crushed lately when I discovered 5 of them wet and moldy in a plastic bag.
Personally I wear a bra because I LOVE how it looks. I feel sexier, less self conscious of my bra size (because I gain at least a cup) and look better proportioned (at least to my eyes) really my bra GIVES me boobs and I was crushed lately when I discovered 5 of them wet and moldy in a plastic bag.
05/15/2013
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An underwire bra which is properly fitted will not "block your lymph nodes" and it's highly unlikely that even a poorly fitted bra will do so.
Originally posted by
Sangsara
I wonder if they are really talking about going without a bra or about wearing say a sports bra or bralet which would contain without the underwires. Speaking of underwires I wear a bra everyday (although my boobs are now so small it's hardly
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I wonder if they are really talking about going without a bra or about wearing say a sports bra or bralet which would contain without the underwires. Speaking of underwires I wear a bra everyday (although my boobs are now so small it's hardly necessary for support) and my mom thinks I'm stupid to do so because underwires cause blockages in your lymph nodes.
Personally I wear a bra because I LOVE how it looks. I feel sexier, less self conscious of my bra size (because I gain at least a cup) and look better proportioned (at least to my eyes) really my bra GIVES me boobs and I was crushed lately when I discovered 5 of them wet and moldy in a plastic bag. less
Personally I wear a bra because I LOVE how it looks. I feel sexier, less self conscious of my bra size (because I gain at least a cup) and look better proportioned (at least to my eyes) really my bra GIVES me boobs and I was crushed lately when I discovered 5 of them wet and moldy in a plastic bag. less
The links between bras and illness have simply not been substantiated.
05/15/2013
This is a very interesting study...
05/17/2013
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This is a breath of fresh air, P'Gell! It's obvious you have some medical and/or scientific background...
Originally posted by
P'Gell
An underwire bra which is properly fitted will not "block your lymph nodes" and it's highly unlikely that even a poorly fitted bra will do so.
The links between bras and illness have simply not been substantiated.
The links between bras and illness have simply not been substantiated.
05/18/2013
Haha, my ex just sent me this (I really love talking about bras and sizing). For someone who loves bras, I go braless surprisingly often. My issue is that if I'm braless, my nipples are showing.
05/20/2013
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that is crazy yet i know as a DD i feel better when im at home cause i wear no bra at home and am not so confined
Originally posted by
bratcat
A 15 year study of 330 women ages 18 to 35, conducted by french professor Jean-Denis Rouillon, found that wearing an underwire bra may actually lead to having "saggier' breast. The study found that over time breast would gain more muscle
...
more
A 15 year study of 330 women ages 18 to 35, conducted by french professor Jean-Denis Rouillon, found that wearing an underwire bra may actually lead to having "saggier' breast. The study found that over time breast would gain more muscle tone to support themselves and nipples would lift; as well as stating those who have larger breast may see less back problems over time when one does not wear a bra. To quote the article on Huffington Post, "When bras are worn, the restrictive material prevents such tissue from growing, which may actually accelerate sagging, the study concluded."
However there are a few things this study has not seem to have taken into account or mention, such as breast size or if the women in the study were wearing a well fitted bra.
As someone who has a DDD chest, and often goes bra-less, i can see how some of this material dose hold up. I have only started to go with out a bra in public more often very recently, noticing my back problems have started to subside some. Although, any other benefits mentioned, i have yet to see or notice such as a natural lift in my nipples or my breast gaining any sort of muscle tone.
Still i have some issues with the study since it doesnt mention how many women (usually quoted as "70% or more") wear the wrong size bra, and that many bra companies have their own method of sizing, as well as any mention of the average breast size measured for the study.
How do you feel about this article, and are you someone who had seen benefits from wearing/not wearing a bra? less
However there are a few things this study has not seem to have taken into account or mention, such as breast size or if the women in the study were wearing a well fitted bra.
As someone who has a DDD chest, and often goes bra-less, i can see how some of this material dose hold up. I have only started to go with out a bra in public more often very recently, noticing my back problems have started to subside some. Although, any other benefits mentioned, i have yet to see or notice such as a natural lift in my nipples or my breast gaining any sort of muscle tone.
Still i have some issues with the study since it doesnt mention how many women (usually quoted as "70% or more") wear the wrong size bra, and that many bra companies have their own method of sizing, as well as any mention of the average breast size measured for the study.
How do you feel about this article, and are you someone who had seen benefits from wearing/not wearing a bra? less
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