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I agree more or less. I am certain there are cases where humans and animals form extremely strong bonds - even physical ones - and that the consent is present on both ends. However, without a clearly defined system of communication that humans have through language, guessing which cases are consensual can be difficult. I'm not sure WHY a human would want a relationship with another species in the first place, but I do think it can happen in a relatively (and I do mean RELATIVELY) ethical way. There are lots of documented cases of seemingly happy, long-term relationships between different species. I just think when it gets into defining what counts as consent with an animal (since it can't speak) is problematic.
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P'Gell
I would have my partner get into seriously heavy counseling.
Bestiality is NOT consensual!!!! The animal does not have the ability to consent to a human and IMO, it is.... wrong. I think it is harmful to the animal, despite the fact that the ... more
Bestiality is NOT consensual!!!! The animal does not have the ability to consent to a human and IMO, it is.... wrong. I think it is harmful to the animal, despite the fact that the ... more
I would have my partner get into seriously heavy counseling.
Bestiality is NOT consensual!!!! The animal does not have the ability to consent to a human and IMO, it is.... wrong. I think it is harmful to the animal, despite the fact that the animal may go along with it (they do a lot of things just to please their masters and mistresses) but it is abuse of the animal, as far as I am concerned. less
Bestiality is NOT consensual!!!! The animal does not have the ability to consent to a human and IMO, it is.... wrong. I think it is harmful to the animal, despite the fact that the animal may go along with it (they do a lot of things just to please their masters and mistresses) but it is abuse of the animal, as far as I am concerned. less
Long story short, even though I do think it's possible for consent to occur, it's impossible to assume it. A bit of a paradox, which is why I tend to just say it's wrong in many or even most cases. However, I think it's a little silly to project human systems of sexuality and power onto animals of other species. Other species do not necessarily assign the same meaning or value to sexual acts as humans do - and even humans don't universally assign the same meanings and values to sex acts. Many animals engage in acts of beastiality with humans that are not their owners and whom they have no loyalty to. Tourists, passersby, etc. I think it's reasonable enough to assume that there is a fair amount of animals that engage in sex with people simply because they want to. Some species - like dolphins - are notorious for sexually assaulting humans entirely of their own volition. How many times have you had a dog tackle you and hump you, or bury its face in your crotch? It's something we need to keep in mind, just for the sake of being accurate and fair in our judgments.
Anyway, this may sound cold, but I'd be less concerned about the animal's well being and more about my partner's. I think I'd discontinue the relationship while they sought counseling, without the guarantee that it would ever be resumed. For me, their actions speak to some very complicated, long-term issues that need to be resolved. My partner would (hypothetically) deserve to dedicate all of their energies and time to resolving those issues. If they owned the dog, I'd ask that they give it up voluntarily to a shelter. If they refused, I would notify the appropriate authorities.