This disturbs me, it really does....
XS Condom for 12 Year Old Boys? Ethical? Disturbing?
07/29/2010
I think we should remember that one of the reasons behind making these condoms is studies showing that kids this young ARE having sex and DO have a higher rate of contracting STI's because they have less condom options available to them.
It's not encouraging them to have sex...
It's keeping those who are already doing so a little bit safer.
It's not encouraging them to have sex...
It's keeping those who are already doing so a little bit safer.
07/29/2010
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I totally agree with everyting you said, couldnt of said it better myself.
Originally posted by
Carrie Ann
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? ... more
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? ... more
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? I'd much prefer to see less pregnancies and STI's. less
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? I'd much prefer to see less pregnancies and STI's. less
07/30/2010
Fact: The pass time for a lot of kids in a rural Oregon town are having sexual activities - there is practically nothing else for them to do. There's a lot of teen moms. The high school even hands out condoms!
07/31/2010
I'm eeked out by this. But if they are going to have sex, at least it's safe?
I just think more should go into educating children that they shouldn't have sex.
I just think more should go into educating children that they shouldn't have sex.
07/31/2010
In 2002, 13% of females and 15% of males aged 15-19 who were sexually active began having sex before the age of 15. In 1995, these numbers were 19% and 21%, respectively.
Actually, statistics have shown in recent years that teens are delaying having sex for longer (the study I read only covered the United States, though).
Quite frankly, I wish there was a way to stop the few who do choose to engage in sexual activities at such an early age, because I don't believe they fully comprehend the significance of the act or the possible consequences. But I also firmly believe in sex as a spiritual experience, and I don't believe in sex for the sake of sex, so maybe that's just me.
Aren't there possible health repercussions as well? Other than pregnancy and STIs, I know there are also studies being done about females who become sexually active at a very young age being at higher risk for cervical cancer. Not sure about additional male health factors, though.
And I kinda want to kick that company's marketing team in the face. Hot shot? Really? Little kids who don't even know what a condom is are going to be attracted to that name. It sounds like a Hot Wheels car lol.
Actually, statistics have shown in recent years that teens are delaying having sex for longer (the study I read only covered the United States, though).
Quite frankly, I wish there was a way to stop the few who do choose to engage in sexual activities at such an early age, because I don't believe they fully comprehend the significance of the act or the possible consequences. But I also firmly believe in sex as a spiritual experience, and I don't believe in sex for the sake of sex, so maybe that's just me.
Aren't there possible health repercussions as well? Other than pregnancy and STIs, I know there are also studies being done about females who become sexually active at a very young age being at higher risk for cervical cancer. Not sure about additional male health factors, though.
And I kinda want to kick that company's marketing team in the face. Hot shot? Really? Little kids who don't even know what a condom is are going to be attracted to that name. It sounds like a Hot Wheels car lol.
08/01/2010
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A few of the highschools I went to handed out condoms.
Originally posted by
Rossie
Fact: The pass time for a lot of kids in a rural Oregon town are having sexual activities - there is practically nothing else for them to do. There's a lot of teen moms. The high school even hands out condoms!
08/01/2010
I don't think we should be encouraging kids this young to be engaging in sexual activities, but I think if they're doing it anyway we should provide them the education and products necessary to keep them safe.
08/01/2010
As much as I don't think 12 year olds have any business having sex, I don't believe condoms specifically designed for them can be anything but good. The idea that condoms will encourage them to have sex is the same idea behind abstinence only sex education (which does not work). The only thing it will encourage is using condoms if those 12 year olds are already considering/having sex.
08/03/2010
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Agree, 100% -it doesn't matter if we like that 12 year olds have sex. What matters is that they are safe.
Originally posted by
Carrie Ann
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? ... more
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? ... more
The name is shitty but if it inspires sexually active young folks to BUY the damned things and USE them, then I'm all in favor, all the way around.
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? I'd much prefer to see less pregnancies and STI's. less
I'm not going to say I like the idea of preteens having sex but if they already are? I'd much prefer to see less pregnancies and STI's. less
08/03/2010
I personally don't think that 12 year old boys should be having sex, but if they're going to I'd rather see them have the proper protection than none at all. The name is too gimmick-y though and might make the ones that AREN'T having sex want to have it.
08/04/2010
Couldn't this size condom be marketed to any male who might need a smaller condom and not just young boys? I'm sure that there are men who need a smaller size just as there are men who need a larger condom. I think that if they market it to men who need the smaller condom then the younger boys can seek it out if they need it. I dunno 12 years old is so damn young. I hate to see them market a sex products to children like that.
08/13/2010
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My son is about to turn 10 and the idea of him having sex in two years is insane. But educatiion is everything. He'll have the same sex-ed class as you describe next year in 5th grade. Frankly at first I was very unhappy but the more I think about it the better I think this is. It should start with the simple science. The additional information as far as ramifications need to be discussed later. How that should be done I'm not so sure. My husband and I've had many talks on how to deal with this but his backround keeps him on the side of less information. I would like to discuss options to intercourse. Yes there are many other forms of pleasure limiting your risk factors. Kids need to know this. I know this is not pc but I am so tired of seeing such young girls with children and don't want that to happen to my kids. Let's be frank. You have a child as a teen and your life is forever altered. What you really need to think about is how you have limited your child's future. NO I am not saying this is true in all cases but it often is the case.
Originally posted by
kck
I think so. I think that this makes it more convincing to have sex. Just like some kids believe everything they see on TV, some will believe that it's sold because it's okay (even standard or expected) that pre-teens have sex.
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I think so. I think that this makes it more convincing to have sex. Just like some kids believe everything they see on TV, some will believe that it's sold because it's okay (even standard or expected) that pre-teens have sex.
I think there needs to be more education about sex. In my opinion, it's talked about a little too late. I also think that a lot of the social factors are ignored. I know in my 6th grade sex ed class, we did not talk about STD/STI, (age of) consent, and costs (emotional, physical, financial) of having sex and/or children. We talked about it strictly in terms of anatomy--which is good, but doesn't necessarily affect the educated decision to have sex. less
I think there needs to be more education about sex. In my opinion, it's talked about a little too late. I also think that a lot of the social factors are ignored. I know in my 6th grade sex ed class, we did not talk about STD/STI, (age of) consent, and costs (emotional, physical, financial) of having sex and/or children. We talked about it strictly in terms of anatomy--which is good, but doesn't necessarily affect the educated decision to have sex. less
Learning about sex takes time and should not be just in a class over a few weeks. Look at all of us here. Don't we learn something new from time to time? It's a part of our lives and should be a joyful part of our lives. But like anything we need to wait until we are responsible and mature enough to handle the knowledge.
08/13/2010
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Yeah, I'm kind of on the same boat. 12 year olds having sex just sounds wrong to me, but.. if they're gunna do it, they're gunna do it. Better to start 'the talks' earlier and earlier.. at least they'll know a little more and can get protection.. =\
Originally posted by
Red Vinyl Kitty
While I do NOT like the idea of 12 year olds having sex, if they are *going* to have sex anyway regardless of my or anyone else's opinion, I want them to be protected.
08/13/2010
If 12 year old * children * think that it's ok to have sex... I don't know, but it seems like the parents/guardians should be jumping in here to see what's going on. I know when I was 12 I definitely thought about sex, and they were pretty positive, favorable thoughts, but it was something I looked forward to. For the FUTURE. Like the way I thought about college, or marriage, or owning my own house. I liked the idea of sex, but put it off for "later" in my head. You know, like when you say to yourself "that'll be cool to do when I'm older". The ability to get horny does not equal readiness to have sexual intercourse with another person!
I'm just all "WTF??!" about this. They can make condoms for little kids all they like. But it's like making water wings for cats. Sure, they COULD use them. But shouldn't we be looking at * why * they want to?
I'm just all "WTF??!" about this. They can make condoms for little kids all they like. But it's like making water wings for cats. Sure, they COULD use them. But shouldn't we be looking at * why * they want to?
08/13/2010
Children in our societies have been socialized to be "grown up" before we'd really like them to, but is it really any surprise why? Look at what sells--Bratz dolls, for example, are marketed towards younger girls, teaching them that's how they should dress or expect.
But I digress...
Children are going to have sex, preteens are going to have sex, and if they're going to do it anyway, at least make it safe until we can reeducate on why waiting is good.
I understand that the idea of having sex at twelve is troublesome for many, but I'm a child of the 00's, and back in sixth grade, it was just what was done--I lost my virginity at fourteen and that was considered late. Kids are occasionally really really stupid, at least a condom will help them from being dumb infected parents.
But I digress...
Children are going to have sex, preteens are going to have sex, and if they're going to do it anyway, at least make it safe until we can reeducate on why waiting is good.
I understand that the idea of having sex at twelve is troublesome for many, but I'm a child of the 00's, and back in sixth grade, it was just what was done--I lost my virginity at fourteen and that was considered late. Kids are occasionally really really stupid, at least a condom will help them from being dumb infected parents.
08/15/2010
I was a rare creature in my high school. I was a virgin till the week before my 16th birthday, but I was definitely no stranger to touching and making out. Most of the girls I knew had been sexually active since middle school. All of the boys I knew had been sexually active since middle school. Some earlier.
We'd rather them not do it, but it's better to allow them to protect themselves if they do. Filling a need doesn't promote the action. It allows people who insist on continuing it to protect themselves while they do.
We'd rather them not do it, but it's better to allow them to protect themselves if they do. Filling a need doesn't promote the action. It allows people who insist on continuing it to protect themselves while they do.
08/15/2010
Disturbingly young.
08/15/2010
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If you'd asked me 8 months ago, id been dead set against it. But these kids are doing it, so they should be given them, even if I hate the fact that a youngster are having sex. Its my personal belief, i don't like it. , but I can unfortunately see the need, the alternative is worse.
Originally posted by
~LaUr3n~
" A leading condom manufacturer in Switzerland has created extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old, the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph reported.
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss ... more
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss ... more
" A leading condom manufacturer in Switzerland has created extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old, the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph reported.
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss AIDS Federation campaigned to have the condoms made following several studies that showed adolescent boys were not using proper protection when engaging in intercourse.
"The result that shocked us concerned young boys who display apparently risky behavior,” Nancy Bodmer, who headed the research, told the newspaper. “They have more of a tendency not to protect themselves. They do not have a very developed sexual knowledge. They do not understand the consequences of what they are doing and leave the young girls to take care of the consequences.”
Bodmer said the results of the study suggest that early prevention makes sense.
A spokeswoman for the company, Lamprecht AG, said the United Kingdom would be a “top priority” if they expanded abroad, especially since the U.K. has one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in Europe.
A standard condom has a diameter of 2 inches; the Hotshot's is 1.7 inches."
Source: link
So what do you think? I think the name itself is wrong lol. Hot Shot? Seriously? less
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss AIDS Federation campaigned to have the condoms made following several studies that showed adolescent boys were not using proper protection when engaging in intercourse.
"The result that shocked us concerned young boys who display apparently risky behavior,” Nancy Bodmer, who headed the research, told the newspaper. “They have more of a tendency not to protect themselves. They do not have a very developed sexual knowledge. They do not understand the consequences of what they are doing and leave the young girls to take care of the consequences.”
Bodmer said the results of the study suggest that early prevention makes sense.
A spokeswoman for the company, Lamprecht AG, said the United Kingdom would be a “top priority” if they expanded abroad, especially since the U.K. has one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in Europe.
A standard condom has a diameter of 2 inches; the Hotshot's is 1.7 inches."
Source: link
So what do you think? I think the name itself is wrong lol. Hot Shot? Seriously? less
10/04/2010
Okay, maybe I was just super innocent or something... I'm reading all these posts in this thread about how it was the norm for people around my age to lose their virginity in middle school... and that just wasn't true for me or anyone I knew. A few of my friends lost it junior or senior year of high school, but most of us waited until college.
I don't know. I'm not sure I'm convinced that middle school sex is and has been the norm.
I don't know. I'm not sure I'm convinced that middle school sex is and has been the norm.
10/04/2010
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Agreed. Education is the way to go, and while it may suck for kids so young to be having sex (most kids that age simply aren't ready in any form of the word), they should at least be protected. Could save a lot of underage pregnancies :[
Originally posted by
Red Vinyl Kitty
While I do NOT like the idea of 12 year olds having sex, if they are *going* to have sex anyway regardless of my or anyone else's opinion, I want them to be protected.
10/12/2010
JustWicked
12 year olds are having sex and spreading STDs get over it! Help protect them and unwanted pregnancies! The name 'Hot Shot' would appeal to their prepubescent ego and might make them actually want to use them. JMHO
10/12/2010
I don't think 12 year olds should be having sex as a general rule, but if they're going to they should use a condom... obviously. Also, 12 year old boys do *definately* jerk off, and as men have long done a condom makes for easy clean up.
10/12/2010
I voted "Not cool" and "In Support" because I think like everyone else here: I don't think it's cool for preteens to have sex, but if they're going to have sex, use condoms.
There's a parenting issue here. There's a difference between being a "sex positive" parent and approaching sexuality in a positive way and just letting your kids do whatever they want and make ALL their own decisions... even the ones they're not ready for.
I think this whole campaign started when that kid was in the news for fathering a baby (that didn't turn out to be his). I think he was 11 or 12.
There's a parenting issue here. There's a difference between being a "sex positive" parent and approaching sexuality in a positive way and just letting your kids do whatever they want and make ALL their own decisions... even the ones they're not ready for.
I think this whole campaign started when that kid was in the news for fathering a baby (that didn't turn out to be his). I think he was 11 or 12.
11/03/2010
I don't like it, but it's necessary at this point. They're having sex and I'd rather see them use a condom than have a baby at that age. Five years ago my son's grandma worked in a middle school. Now it's a small school. I graduated from there and my graduating class had a little over 100 people in it, I think 117. There were SIX SIXTH GRADERS who were pregnant that they knew about. That means there could have been others who moved, vanished, aborted, or miscarried.
11/03/2010
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I read an article recently about how hard it is for men/boys with smaller penises to find condoms that fit properly. So, I think that this is something needed to fill a gap in the market. Even if the thought of twelve year olds using them makes me uncomfortable.
Originally posted by
~LaUr3n~
" A leading condom manufacturer in Switzerland has created extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old, the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph reported.
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss ... more
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss ... more
" A leading condom manufacturer in Switzerland has created extra-small condoms for boys as young as 12 years old, the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph reported.
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss AIDS Federation campaigned to have the condoms made following several studies that showed adolescent boys were not using proper protection when engaging in intercourse.
"The result that shocked us concerned young boys who display apparently risky behavior,” Nancy Bodmer, who headed the research, told the newspaper. “They have more of a tendency not to protect themselves. They do not have a very developed sexual knowledge. They do not understand the consequences of what they are doing and leave the young girls to take care of the consequences.”
Bodmer said the results of the study suggest that early prevention makes sense.
A spokeswoman for the company, Lamprecht AG, said the United Kingdom would be a “top priority” if they expanded abroad, especially since the U.K. has one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in Europe.
A standard condom has a diameter of 2 inches; the Hotshot's is 1.7 inches."
Source: link
So what do you think? I think the name itself is wrong lol. Hot Shot? Seriously? less
The condom, called the Hotshot, was produced after family planning groups and the Swiss AIDS Federation campaigned to have the condoms made following several studies that showed adolescent boys were not using proper protection when engaging in intercourse.
"The result that shocked us concerned young boys who display apparently risky behavior,” Nancy Bodmer, who headed the research, told the newspaper. “They have more of a tendency not to protect themselves. They do not have a very developed sexual knowledge. They do not understand the consequences of what they are doing and leave the young girls to take care of the consequences.”
Bodmer said the results of the study suggest that early prevention makes sense.
A spokeswoman for the company, Lamprecht AG, said the United Kingdom would be a “top priority” if they expanded abroad, especially since the U.K. has one of the highest rates of teen pregnancy in Europe.
A standard condom has a diameter of 2 inches; the Hotshot's is 1.7 inches."
Source: link
So what do you think? I think the name itself is wrong lol. Hot Shot? Seriously? less
11/07/2010
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Sort of off-topic, but there's no way of saying those sixth grade girls got pregnant by sixth or even seventh grade boys. I read somewhere (wish I could find it) that most girls losing their virginity at that age are having sex with older boys. I know it holds true for the few girls I knew in middle school who were having sex.
Originally posted by
Kim!
I don't like it, but it's necessary at this point. They're having sex and I'd rather see them use a condom than have a baby at that age. Five years ago my son's grandma worked in a middle school. Now it's a small school. I
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I don't like it, but it's necessary at this point. They're having sex and I'd rather see them use a condom than have a baby at that age. Five years ago my son's grandma worked in a middle school. Now it's a small school. I graduated from there and my graduating class had a little over 100 people in it, I think 117. There were SIX SIXTH GRADERS who were pregnant that they knew about. That means there could have been others who moved, vanished, aborted, or miscarried.
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11/08/2010
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My thoughts exaclty.
Originally posted by
Red Vinyl Kitty
While I do NOT like the idea of 12 year olds having sex, if they are *going* to have sex anyway regardless of my or anyone else's opinion, I want them to be protected.
I wouldn't want to encourage the behaviour but at the same time if they are engaging in it and are not protecting themselves, it would be a good preventive meaasure.
11/08/2010
It's really disturbing that more isn't done to educate children and apparently adults as well. What needs to change is the society driven acceptance that children having sex is okay. Having the knowledge of how-to doesn't mean they need to implement it's usage. They are still children and what 12 year old can be mature enough to deal with offspring or even support them. Common sense needs to win somewhere along the line. Though I understand wanting to protect those already at risk better education is necessary so more children don't simply follow the leader.
Course I'm really biased because my son will be 12 next week and the last thing he needs is someone tossing condoms at him saying 'come be a hotshot'
Course I'm really biased because my son will be 12 next week and the last thing he needs is someone tossing condoms at him saying 'come be a hotshot'
11/08/2010