who thinks Global Warming is man-made, or naturally occurring?

Contributor: LavenderSkies LavenderSkies
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Originally posted by TumorCrunch
do you believe all the talk of global warming being all humanities' fault? or do you believe it is part of the earth's naturally occurring cycles? and why?
Natural, but we're definitely not helping it
06/03/2011
Contributor: big b big b
natural but we still need to take good care of earth
06/19/2011
Contributor: Noira Celestia Noira Celestia
It is a natural process but we are effecting the rate at which it is happening. Rapid climate change inhibits species from being able to evolve and adapt to the changes. Even without climate change we still have to be aware of things like pollution, overpopulation and renewable resources if we want there to be a planet we want future generations to live on.

Though not sure what this has to do with sex?
06/20/2011
Contributor: AU AU
I feel strongly that whatever is going on, we need to be somewhat concerned and manage. I think there are a combination of factors at work. I realize not all global warming skeptics are conservative (the world isn't so simple!!), but I do know a lot of people who seem to dislike the political slant of a lot of scientists and so choose to ignore the warnings. It is problematic to ignore and to change our ways, but more beneficial in the long run to manage.

My dad tried getting me to argue with him about this again. On Father's Day.
06/20/2011
Contributor: AU AU
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Originally posted by Noira Celestia
It is a natural process but we are effecting the rate at which it is happening. Rapid climate change inhibits species from being able to evolve and adapt to the changes. Even without climate change we still have to be aware of things like ... more
"Though not sure what this has to do with sex?" I wonder how a lot of topics here relate.

I suppose we could connect it with how much people reproduce and the burden this creates for the rest of the world!
06/20/2011
Contributor: Noira Celestia Noira Celestia
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Originally posted by AU
"Though not sure what this has to do with sex?" I wonder how a lot of topics here relate.

I suppose we could connect it with how much people reproduce and the burden this creates for the rest of the world!
I had that thought fleetingly as I posted my comment but couldn't word it right because I'm tired. It is related to reproduction which I can't argue is definitely connected to having sex.

Definitely agree that whether or not we can stop what we have already started that changing our ways to consume less resources, produce less garbage, and emit less green house gases is important anyway.
06/20/2011
Contributor: AU AU
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Originally posted by Noira Celestia
I had that thought fleetingly as I posted my comment but couldn't word it right because I'm tired. It is related to reproduction which I can't argue is definitely connected to having sex.

Definitely agree that whether or not we ... more
It has very much to do with sex! I wish that people would consider this more.

Maybe controversial, I think that reproducing without care about the impact it has on the world is problematic. Relating to global warming as well as a number of other things, how large our population grows will eventually have to be dealt with.

I would like for us to make sure Earth is doing OK, but I think we need to plan for the possibility of some of us migrating off this planet, too...
06/20/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Noira Celestia
It is a natural process but we are effecting the rate at which it is happening. Rapid climate change inhibits species from being able to evolve and adapt to the changes. Even without climate change we still have to be aware of things like ... more
As you learn the forums, you'll see we often talk about things that don't necessarily pertain to sex. Sometimes current events are a topic of conversation. "The Lounge" category may have been a more appropriate place to put this conversation, but many threads do not pertain directly to sex.

It's not a big deal.
06/20/2011
Contributor: Noira Celestia Noira Celestia
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Originally posted by P'Gell
As you learn the forums, you'll see we often talk about things that don't necessarily pertain to sex. Sometimes current events are a topic of conversation. "The Lounge" category may have been a more appropriate place to put this ... more
Yeah I've been noticing this now. Thanks.
06/22/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I do think the Earth is an organism. Is it sentient? No probably not. We're sentient and we can't always save ourselves from harm.

But, it's fun to think about. I wish I could think of the name of the geo-physicist who writes ... more
Fascinating. The earth does, to a degree, attempt to sort itself, out. I don't think this is part of a sentience, merely cause and effect. One example (highly simplified for time, so forgive the vagueness) hurricanes occur when the eco system is out of balance. If things get too hot or too cold, if winds shift or things like that, then a hurricane comes along to correct it.

Another, though this is just a theory of mine: In Peru, I believe, there is a city which suffers lightning storms for 300-odd days each year. I believe that this is 'Mother Nature's' (or whatever you call it) attempt to patch up the ozone layer. Lightning storms, as you may know, are producers of ozone.
06/22/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
Fascinating. The earth does, to a degree, attempt to sort itself, out. I don't think this is part of a sentience, merely cause and effect. One example (highly simplified for time, so forgive the vagueness) hurricanes occur when the eco system is ... more
I agree that weather is the earth's way of trying to even out forces in the atmosphere - 'cause-and-effect' as you describe it. Equilibrium can never occur due to the earth's rotation & wobble combined with the sun and it's constant variations.

I don't get the lighting thing. The Ozone holes are seasonal and exist at the poles. Peru is way to far from the poles to 'replenish' ozone - not to mention that the ozone layer is much higher in elevation than the lightening.
06/22/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
*Phew* You know, I was worried that, in my hurried state, I would sound quite incoherent! Glad no one's had problems!

Okay, about the lightning thing. There is more to it. Yes, it is seasonal, - though I'm pretty sure I read in a scientific journal that they are expanded upon by human influence, but I can't find the story, so don't quote me on that just yet - but they are patched up from the lightning storms, and not done 'by itself'. The lightning storm on its own doesn't fix it all. That's the starting point, where it is created, but it is moved upwards and sort of (for lack of a more scientific way of saying it) pushes the ozone above it outwards, towards areas that need replenishing. Think of it like a kiddy paddling pool. There's a bit of water in the pool already, but it doesn't cover all of the bottom, but throw a bucket of water onto the little, pre-existing puddle, the water isn't diverted mid-air to the parts that have no water, it simply lands in the puddle, and the puddle expands to cover those gaps.
06/23/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
*Phew* You know, I was worried that, in my hurried state, I would sound quite incoherent! Glad no one's had problems!

Okay, about the lightning thing. There is more to it. Yes, it is seasonal, - though I'm pretty sure I read in a ... more
Ozone is mostly created by the sun's radiation effects on O2 in the stratosphere. You may find this link interesting link - it's includes a NASA scientists talking about the creation and destruction of O3.
06/23/2011
Contributor: Ms. Spice Ms. Spice
i think we're not helping, and we're not creating a solution. unfortunately i don't have a lot of formal education in this area, so i'm not going to start spouting my ignorance
06/25/2011
Contributor: RonLee RonLee
Does it really matter whose "fault" it is?
Shouldn't we be attempting to learn how to deal with what is or may be coming rather than smugly pointing fingers?
07/09/2011
Contributor: MJ1337 MJ1337
We are using way more energy than the earth can support and living off of stored fuels (fossil fuels). Currently if we ran out of fossil fuels we would be screwed right now.

Did you ever do the petri dish experiment with bacteria? Say the bacteria doubles every minute, at 10 minutes the dish is full and has reached capacity. At 9 minutes do you think they look around and say, hey, we're going to run out of space? Of course not, because half the petri dish is still empty! That's us...
07/09/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by RonLee
Does it really matter whose "fault" it is?
Shouldn't we be attempting to learn how to deal with what is or may be coming rather than smugly pointing fingers?
Absolutely - my question exactly. It's about mitigation because what we do today will not even have an impact in our lifetimes - we need to learn to adapt or we become dinosaurs.
07/10/2011
Contributor: brittany8612 brittany8612
it does happen naturally, but that doesn't mean that we cant still be environmentally aware
07/10/2011
Contributor: Howells Howells
I think it happens so slowly we'll get used to it over time. It would happen more slow if humans won't help it. Prepare for crazy weather.. there is nothing else you can do. But I'm pretty sure Day after Tomorrow is not coming.
07/10/2011
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
It's a natural cycle, but we aren't helping the situation!
08/18/2011
Contributor: thebest thebest
naturally
08/24/2011
Contributor: sarki sarki
If things were exactly the way they were when the earth was created global warming wouldn't be an issue now
It really comes down to how you believe the world came about
08/24/2011
Contributor: TheHardOne TheHardOne
The earth goes in natural cycles. Humans did not cause the ice age to go away, but the rapid increase in change over the last 15 years has to make you thing we are having some effect.
09/10/2011
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by RonLee
Does it really matter whose "fault" it is?
Shouldn't we be attempting to learn how to deal with what is or may be coming rather than smugly pointing fingers?
Yeah, it matters if WE were at least part of causing the problem. You can't fix a problem unless you know the etiology of the problem.

If fossil fuels added to the Global Warming (and they do) then we need to decrease fossil fuels. That only makes sense.
09/10/2011
Contributor: Rhazya Rhazya
Joking Answer: Why it's man and womanmade of course. All those bodies getting busy with each other heating things up and people masturbating.. it's our fault! If we were all celibate with no masturbation the Earth would be cold!

Serious Answer: I think it's a combination of both honestly.
10/06/2011
Contributor: TumorCrunch TumorCrunch
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Originally posted by TumorCrunch
do you believe all the talk of global warming being all humanities' fault? or do you believe it is part of the earth's naturally occurring cycles? and why?
i started this just to see how many people agreed with me, and so far, 14. lol
i don't think people have anything to do with it, as only %3 of CO2 in the air comes from humans. i absolutely believe we are damaging our earth. just not as far as it's heating cycles are concerned. we destroy everything we touch, and most of the time it's for pleasure, not necessity. and that's very selfish.
10/13/2011
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by TumorCrunch
i started this just to see how many people agreed with me, and so far, 14. lol
i don't think people have anything to do with it, as only %3 of CO2 in the air comes from humans. i absolutely believe we are damaging our earth. just not as far as ... more
Humans are inherently selfish, it's a necessary trait to guarantee our own personal survival. I think I'm one of very few people who is not concerned about how the human species will thrive and/or kill itself off. We had our chance, if we blow it then so be it. For every species that dies out, a new one comes into existence.
10/19/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by Ansley
Humans are inherently selfish, it's a necessary trait to guarantee our own personal survival. I think I'm one of very few people who is not concerned about how the human species will thrive and/or kill itself off. We had our chance, if we ... more
Yeah, but I'd rather not die out just yet
02/07/2012
Contributor: samanthalynn samanthalynn
naturally
02/08/2012
Contributor: Graniteal Graniteal
Right now we are definitely doing it wrong.
02/08/2012