Should women be able to walk around topless in the USA?

Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Quote:
Originally posted by Just Jen
Where do you live?
Her profile indicates Canada - maybe a bit cold eh!
09/07/2010
Contributor: verbalized verbalized
I think it should only be allowed in designated places for both men and women.
09/07/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
No one should go topless, and I think we should outlaw sandals and flipflops!
09/08/2010
Contributor: Chilipepper Chilipepper
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
No one should go topless, and I think we should outlaw sandals and flipflops!
I think Florida will secede if flip flops are outlawed. (I'm in complete agreement with you, though.)
09/08/2010
Contributor: gone77 gone77
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
No one should go topless, and I think we should outlaw sandals and flipflops!
Hey now! I like flipflops. Granted, I don't wear them out in public but I want that option. :-p
09/08/2010
Contributor: MnWolf MnWolf
I think the right to do it should be availible to the woman if she should choose to do so. The problem comes from society and the linking a womens breast to sexuallity and sex. The whole U.S. is caught on sex and that it should be a hush hush thing. So what a woman has breasts, some are small some are large. So what....!

Now grant it I am sure there are some I wouldn't want to see, just like there are some men that I see while swimming that that just well..... You get the idea! I just think as a society, a woman should have the option to shed her shirt on a hot summer day and not be looked at any different. Hell, the english have topless models doing orange juice commercials....! American society condems parts of our bodies, because there is so much repression of sex and sexuallity in the country, we can thank many different groups for this one, but at some point the attitudes need to be changed, and new norms established.
09/08/2010
Contributor: PassionQT PassionQT
Quote:
Originally posted by MnWolf
I think the right to do it should be availible to the woman if she should choose to do so. The problem comes from society and the linking a womens breast to sexuallity and sex. The whole U.S. is caught on sex and that it should be a hush hush ... more
There are men that run around shirtless with breasts larger than womens!
09/08/2010
Contributor: Alicia Alicia
Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
No one should go topless, and I think we should outlaw sandals and flipflops!
*gasp* hush your mouth!! No flip flops??? I wouldn't survive....
09/08/2010
Contributor: Alicia Alicia
Quote:
Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Jesibel420 --- Don't take any offense to this (none is intended) but your statements align perfectly with my point so I hope you don't mind me using them as an example.

And my point is; that is exactly why going topless is and always ... more
I absolutely agree with this.
09/08/2010
Contributor: MnWolf MnWolf
Quote:
Originally posted by PassionQT
There are men that run around shirtless with breasts larger than womens!
Exactly: But Society... says well he has a penis and is male so it is ok..... I believe even in this day and age, there are double standards for woman and men. If one would follow the thinking and reasoning as to why a women is not allowed to be walk around shirt free the standardization and division of boys and girls men and women are started and instilled early.
09/08/2010
Contributor: Owl Identified Owl Identified
Yes, anywhere a man can legally walk around without a shirt on a woman should also be able to if she desires. NYC has a law that states this and I think it's a pretty good policy.
09/08/2010
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
Quote:
Originally posted by Kim!
Exactly, you summed it up better than I could right now.
Hey thanks. It cheered me up to see someone have the same thought as me.
09/11/2010
Contributor: Penguin Penguin
They should be able to but sadly they can't. I think the majority of women would still choose not to because guys can be hecklers.
10/06/2010
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin
They should be able to but sadly they can't. I think the majority of women would still choose not to because guys can be hecklers.
The majority of women would choose not to because they don't want to.

Even in places where it's permitted - like Europe - it's restricted to beaches and other appropriate locations. You don't really think women walk the streets of Paris, London, or Berlin topless do you?
10/06/2010
Contributor: mllebeauty mllebeauty
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunsmoke
The majority of women would choose not to because they don't want to.

Even in places where it's permitted - like Europe - it's restricted to beaches and other appropriate locations. You don't really think women walk the streets ... more
LOL! Good point. In designated areas it's just fine, but no one needs to walk down the street half-naked. Think of the care accidents. I used to go to a nude beach in Hawai'i and only a handful of people on that beach went nude. I didn't. It was just a really good beach.
10/06/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
Quote:
Originally posted by Just Jen
Men get to, babies get to, why are breast to be kept covered?
I am not trying to be a ... but there would seriously be more traffic accidents!
10/06/2010
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
It is legal here in canada but there are stipulations. You cannot just walk into the mall. The no shirt, no shoes no service rule applies.

When the law was first passed, I saw a few women walking downtown topless but the novelty quickly wore off. Now the only time i see it is at Pride.
10/12/2010
Contributor: DebbieTR DebbieTR
Quote:
Originally posted by Just Jen
Men get to, babies get to, why are breast to be kept covered?
I think it should be up to the person, and not the government. The government controls everything else. It's not like women are trying to entice men with their bodies.
10/12/2010
Contributor: JustWicked JustWicked
On the one hand if a man can so should a woman. I mean I have seen some men bigger than a lot of women. On the other hand I think we should stay covered except adult type communities, but since that's no longer allowed...if we did and it was common then we'd be like National Geographic no big deal.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Liz2 Liz2
I have been to Europe where in some places, beach areas it is the norm. I think overall it should bean individual preference depending on the place and circumstances. I do think that some women look better with their boobs covered and supported somewhat but whatever....
10/12/2010
Contributor: AU AU
Quote:
Originally posted by Love Buzz
I'd not be comfortable walking around without a shirt on and don't really want to see women walking around the mall topless. That said there are certainly places such as some beaches - where the option should be available.

Yet at the ... more
I have seen it at a wedding reception, and while a professional photographer was taking a huge group photo. I don't think most people realized. Maybe the bride and groom were OK with this, I don't know. I don't think they would be? It was not the time.
10/24/2010
Contributor: AU AU
I am very against women going topless when every they want. I went through a thing when I was a teen and I thought it would be OK. Men can do it, right? A while later, I realized I was usually uncomfortable when men took their shirts off around me. Clothes are good to wear. I think both genders should be sensitive to the feelings of others around them.

I don't think guys should go topless unless they are in a swimming situation. But I'd still rather not see women topless at the beach. Say I support inequality, but it is just a part of our culture. And I think that there is a reason why. To me, breasts aren't just bottles. They are erogenous. Men (and some girls!) like to play with them. People think breasts as sexual things are a new concept, yet, I have seen signs in very old literature that people liked them in a very sexual way. The only time I don't see breasts as a sexual objects is when I'm drawing a model and seeing things as form, shadow. Then I may realize after a while I like what I see...It is hard to not feel this way.

If people want more separated nude friendly beaches, OK. If they want to breastfeed in public--Great! But cover yourself. I do not think that people should force breasts on others. It is rude to do something that you know will offend people. It certainly won't make you look good.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Kinkyquing Kinkyquing
It should definitely be allowed in spaces where men are allowed to be topless. The arguments that it would 'distract' men/cause traffic accidents/etc. are total body autonomy policing BS.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Danielle1220 Danielle1220
I think some people need to keep it covered. I agree with having designated areas for it but in public, people aren't asking to see people topless, in designated areas the people there are expecting it.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
Reading all these responses, it is sad how breasts have been so sexualized. I mean, they were created to feed babies and yet they are not seen for that at all. It is almost as though the whole producing milk thing has gone to the back burner.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Quote:
Originally posted by Jobthingy
Reading all these responses, it is sad how breasts have been so sexualized. I mean, they were created to feed babies and yet they are not seen for that at all. It is almost as though the whole producing milk thing has gone to the back burner.
Jobthingy;

Lets face it - breasts are used to feed babies maybe 1/2 to 2 years per woman - who on average is going to live 80+ years. It's no wonder feeding babies is minimized - that's only 1% of a woman's life time.

Breasts are sexualized because for many (I don't know about most) they respond to sexual stimuli by engorging and becoming more sensitive when touched. Many women I have know have told me that they often begin lubricating vaginally when their breast are stimulated.

Some social morays are reasonable and warranted by 'the facts of the case'. By and large men don't walk around with their dicks out - why? It's a practical restriction in a civilized society. You really wouldn't want to live in a society with no limits - even if you don't agree with some of them.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Jobthingy;

Lets face it - breasts are used to feed babies maybe 1/2 to 2 years per woman - who on average is going to live 80+ years. It's no wonder feeding babies is minimized - that's only 1% of a woman's life ... more
Men's nipples, on average, are just as sensitive as women's on average. So if being erogenous was a factor in obscuring them, men should have to cover theirs too. And only in highly industrialized countries and only for a few centuries have the time line for breast feeding been reduced that far. In most of the world and for most of human existence, humans have breast fed their off spring for a minimum of 3 years and up to 6 or 7. (And breasts are their for feeding, any sexual pleasure derived from them are merely a perk biologically.)

(This part isn't part of the argument, but a good and interesting lesson in why breasts are awesome for anyone that has them or loves them.) Why? Because breast milk is awesome. 1. It's free. And most of the world isn't as well off as the U.S. 2. It provides absolute complete nutrition for the young and they can live solely off breast milk for years. So in countries that are impoverished or are going through a famine, they only have to feed the mother in order to nutritionally support her AND her young kids. 3. Doesn't require sterilized water as formula does which also leaves third world countries to relying on what's biologically given to them. 4. During the first few days after birth, the "milk" is more clear and is called "colostrum" which provides newborns with antibodies to help prevent, or fight, infections because newborns aren't producing their own yet and depend on their mother for it.

Breasts are awesome.

Speaking of, this month is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Is everyone doing their personal monthly checks? And people over the age of 35 or with high risk family history getting their mammograms?

And to the men: It's not just for the ladies! Though only 2% of cases of breast cancer are male, about 300 men die every year for undiagnosed breast cancer. And alcoholics, or those with a history, are at higher risk because cirrhosis of the liver can result in higher levels of estrogen.

This has been a friendly EF public service announncement.
10/24/2010
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Quote:
Originally posted by Darling Jen
Men's nipples, on average, are just as sensitive as women's on average. So if being erogenous was a factor in obscuring them, men should have to cover theirs too. And only in highly industrialized countries and only for a few centuries have ... more
Don't get me wrong - if you want to parade around topless, I'd be the last to object.

Even women who want 'the right', wouldn't have the courage to actually do it. Black's Beach in San Diego is 'clothing optional - come check it out!

However, I assume if I were to visit your local topless beach we could talk it over in public - just kidding!
10/24/2010
Contributor: AU AU
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Jobthingy;

Lets face it - breasts are used to feed babies maybe 1/2 to 2 years per woman - who on average is going to live 80+ years. It's no wonder feeding babies is minimized - that's only 1% of a woman's life ... more
An excellent point. Most of us will not be breastfeeding long if at all. If I had a child, I would probably avoid feeding it from my breasts (I'd probably use a pump). But I doubt I will be having kids, so my boobies will always be a part of our most secret toy collection.

Some men do have sensitive nipples, but I have never known a male who likes his stimulated (--when it has come up, of course I may know someone.). My partner really doesn't like the feeling of having his touched. They are sensitive, but he doesn't get turned on when I touch his. He finds it interesting that I like mine touched as much as I do.

Men keep their penises to themselves, but they are often used for urinating--something typically seen as a non-sexual act. Yet if I seen one out about to urinate, I would probably still look at it in a sexual way. I might like what I see! I feel the same about breasts.

You can't change bodies being looked at as sexual things. They are sexual things, especially when naked. :/

And agreed about limits. Damn the 60s for making people want to question every little thing that brings order. Clothes serve purposes, one being protection from the sun. Those who tan their breasts have sag and more to look forward to...
10/25/2010
Contributor: Unconventional Unconventional
I think breasts have become too sexualized for it to be appropriate. Speaking as someone who has discreetly breastfed in public.
10/26/2010