No person should ever be forced to undergo any medical procedure, ever, for any reason. The government has no business what so ever doing something like that, and I'm disgusted that even a small percentage of people said "yes" to this.
Should a woman who wants an abortion be forced to get an ultrasound?
12/13/2012
Absolutely not.
12/16/2012
No, never.
12/28/2012
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it should not be legally required. and you should not have a two day waiting period (im looking at you sd...)
Originally posted by
Rawhide
Any ultrasound, invasive or not. This is the question circulating our legislators right now, thanks to the GOP.
01/05/2013
No, that's not cool to do.
02/13/2013
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I don't think that a woman wanting an abortion should be /forced/ to do anything.
Originally posted by
Rawhide
Any ultrasound, invasive or not. This is the question circulating our legislators right now, thanks to the GOP.
02/16/2013
Hell no.
02/17/2013
No, what do they expect to find in there? .... But considering these procedures are being planned by old, out of touch, white men, maybe they genuinely don't know what happens inside the uterus and are worried about aliens or Mexicans sneaking in over the boarder in the vagina.
The process is designed to shame and as a people we should be beyond that kind of condescending, male dominated, crap.
The process is designed to shame and as a people we should be beyond that kind of condescending, male dominated, crap.
03/17/2013
I think that if it is not needed then it should be a choice
03/19/2013
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Absolutely NOT! Just the idea of forcing a woman to endure such a thing is disgraceful. I really wish politicians would stay the hell out of my uterus.
Originally posted by
Rawhide
Any ultrasound, invasive or not. This is the question circulating our legislators right now, thanks to the GOP.
If this were a man's issue, ie. if men got pregnant and gave birth, this wouldn't even be an issue. I'm tired of women being treated like second class citizens in this country. Aren't we all supposed to be beyond this sort of thing by now? Yeah, we still make around 25% less than men for performing the same work. This is just another sickening example of the double standard.
Ya know, if I needed to have an abortion and it was mandated that I get an ultrasound, I suppose I'd listen to my MP3 player and look the other way until it was over. Damn disgusting pigs... what right do they have to violate a woman this way? They have no right. That's why all those idiots just need to be voted out.
03/19/2013
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I had an intravaginal ultrasound done and it's really not all that bad. The big scary looking dildo probe thing doesn't go all the way in. Just a little bit of the tip goes in. It really wasn't bad at all. The worst part was that they wanted my bladder to be full and I was trying not to pee all over the place, I had to go so bad.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
Sometimes an abdominal ultrasound is done, if the woman's dates are off and don't correspond to the size of her uterus during a pelvic exam. Or she has had some bleeding. But, what the Right wants is intravaginal ultrasound (as Chili said) is
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Sometimes an abdominal ultrasound is done, if the woman's dates are off and don't correspond to the size of her uterus during a pelvic exam. Or she has had some bleeding. But, what the Right wants is intravaginal ultrasound (as Chili said) is not only an outdated method of ultrasound (a huge, dildo like probe is inserted into the vagina, and it was used before the much more effective 4 D Ultrasound.)
There is simply NO reason to do intravaginal ultrasounds before a pregnancy termination. less
There is simply NO reason to do intravaginal ultrasounds before a pregnancy termination. less
That said, no way in hell should the gov. be getting involved like this.
03/19/2013
No. It's a waste of time and money.
03/19/2013
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In what circumstance would a forced ultrasound be medically necessary in order for a woman to have an abortion??
Originally posted by
Errant Venture
Only when medically necessary.
03/19/2013
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Are you saying that a woman who wants an abortion should be forced to undergo an ultrasound procedure, but not forced to view the image(s)?
Originally posted by
Ansley
An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I
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An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I speak from experience.)
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03/19/2013
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! I read that same quote. Let's see:
Originally posted by
P'Gell
The Right claims to want "smaller government" and they claim to not want the government in "our lives" but I guess that only applies to when our lives are making money in evil ways, and personal freedom of reproduction doesn't
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The Right claims to want "smaller government" and they claim to not want the government in "our lives" but I guess that only applies to when our lives are making money in evil ways, and personal freedom of reproduction doesn't play into "the government getting into our lives."
Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman. I heard a Right Winger in favor of this, when confronted with the fact that many women wouldn't give consent to that kind of vaginal penetration say, "She gave consent to vaginal penetration when she got pregnant." WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with these people? less
Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman. I heard a Right Winger in favor of this, when confronted with the fact that many women wouldn't give consent to that kind of vaginal penetration say, "She gave consent to vaginal penetration when she got pregnant." WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with these people? less
1. Many women get pregnant from rape, no consent there at all.
2. If women who have consensual sex have thereby consented to any future vaginal penetration, then that means it's impossible to rape anyone who isn't a virgin.
Yep, sounds like a perfect world for the extreme fundamentalist patriarchal men out there.
03/19/2013
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Please think about what you're saying for a moment. A doctor has many years of education and experience in medicine before s/he is trusted to make medical decisions. But you're saying that government officials, very few of whom have any medical education whatsoever, should be able to decide that a woman is to be forced to undergo a medical procedure?
Originally posted by
Beck
I think that they could prove to be important, because there could be complications and the mother could be farther along than she thinks, so I think they should be done before an abortion, but that would be up to the Dr not the government, but if it
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I think that they could prove to be important, because there could be complications and the mother could be farther along than she thinks, so I think they should be done before an abortion, but that would be up to the Dr not the government, but if it takes the government to decide that for safety reasons somethings should be done, I am not opposed.
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03/19/2013
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What do you mean--that if it is "needed", it shouldn't be a choice? Every medical procedure should ALWAYS be a choice. Even people who could die without treatment have the right to choose whther they want the treatment or not.
Originally posted by
emilia
I think that if it is not needed then it should be a choice
03/19/2013
The only purpose of forcing a woman seeking an abortion to have an ultrasound is to shame her, so no. Her body, her choice.
03/20/2013
yes, i think that an ultrasound should be a prerequisite for an abortion so that the doctor knows how far along the woman is. it's all about safety and the more the doctor knows about her pregnancy, the less likely it is for complications to occur during or after the abortion.
03/27/2013
It seems silly to force someone too...
03/27/2013
No.
03/28/2013
forcing someone to do something they do dont want to do is wrong! no matter what the circumstances are
03/28/2013
hmm ok here's the thing. if a person truly wants an abortion, i think it wouldn't matter. i could be wrong however.
i had an abortion when i was 16, it was the right choice for me at the time. the whole thing was a big deal to me and i felt pretty badly but i still always felt it was the correct choice for me.
they gave me an ultrasound and i was like 4 months along. it didn't make any difference to me at the time, and they told me that it was partially necessary so that they could do the procedure safely. my thoughts were that i'd rather have a safe procedure.
it did piss me off that they required me to do a 2 week counseling where they essentially berated me for being a pregnant 16 year old. they also attempted to coerce me into giving birth, telling me oh your family can help (no they can't, no i didn't want them to), and all the people out there that would want to adopt.
judge me if you like, abortion was the right decision for me in 1996 and i do not regret it. i will stand up for anyone that thinks they want one, because i understand first hand what it's like to have an unwanted pregnancy.
i had an abortion when i was 16, it was the right choice for me at the time. the whole thing was a big deal to me and i felt pretty badly but i still always felt it was the correct choice for me.
they gave me an ultrasound and i was like 4 months along. it didn't make any difference to me at the time, and they told me that it was partially necessary so that they could do the procedure safely. my thoughts were that i'd rather have a safe procedure.
it did piss me off that they required me to do a 2 week counseling where they essentially berated me for being a pregnant 16 year old. they also attempted to coerce me into giving birth, telling me oh your family can help (no they can't, no i didn't want them to), and all the people out there that would want to adopt.
judge me if you like, abortion was the right decision for me in 1996 and i do not regret it. i will stand up for anyone that thinks they want one, because i understand first hand what it's like to have an unwanted pregnancy.
03/28/2013
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No. Just no.
Originally posted by
Rawhide
Any ultrasound, invasive or not. This is the question circulating our legislators right now, thanks to the GOP.
04/06/2013
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Wow, I think that's the same year in which I made that decision for myself. I was a little older than you were, but neither I nor the father were anything like ready to raise a child, and what's more, he had a genetic condition that likely would have meant many, many surgeries for the child in the first few years of its life, and then more of them periodically throughout his/her entire life. I went to Planned Parenthood, and was very fortunate not to have to go through any kind of ultrasound or "counseling". (I believe I was in my second or early third month, though.) I'm so sorry you DID have to endure those things.
Originally posted by
raffi
hmm ok here's the thing. if a person truly wants an abortion, i think it wouldn't matter. i could be wrong however.
i had an abortion when i was 16, it was the right choice for me at the time. the whole thing was a big deal to me and i ... more
i had an abortion when i was 16, it was the right choice for me at the time. the whole thing was a big deal to me and i ... more
hmm ok here's the thing. if a person truly wants an abortion, i think it wouldn't matter. i could be wrong however.
i had an abortion when i was 16, it was the right choice for me at the time. the whole thing was a big deal to me and i felt pretty badly but i still always felt it was the correct choice for me.
they gave me an ultrasound and i was like 4 months along. it didn't make any difference to me at the time, and they told me that it was partially necessary so that they could do the procedure safely. my thoughts were that i'd rather have a safe procedure.
it did piss me off that they required me to do a 2 week counseling where they essentially berated me for being a pregnant 16 year old. they also attempted to coerce me into giving birth, telling me oh your family can help (no they can't, no i didn't want them to), and all the people out there that would want to adopt.
judge me if you like, abortion was the right decision for me in 1996 and i do not regret it. i will stand up for anyone that thinks they want one, because i understand first hand what it's like to have an unwanted pregnancy. less
i had an abortion when i was 16, it was the right choice for me at the time. the whole thing was a big deal to me and i felt pretty badly but i still always felt it was the correct choice for me.
they gave me an ultrasound and i was like 4 months along. it didn't make any difference to me at the time, and they told me that it was partially necessary so that they could do the procedure safely. my thoughts were that i'd rather have a safe procedure.
it did piss me off that they required me to do a 2 week counseling where they essentially berated me for being a pregnant 16 year old. they also attempted to coerce me into giving birth, telling me oh your family can help (no they can't, no i didn't want them to), and all the people out there that would want to adopt.
judge me if you like, abortion was the right decision for me in 1996 and i do not regret it. i will stand up for anyone that thinks they want one, because i understand first hand what it's like to have an unwanted pregnancy. less
I absolutely agree that the only person who can really make the best decision on such a thing is the pregnant woman herself. Certainly, it's good for her to have as much objective information as possible, but in the end, only she knows all the factors involved in her choice.
04/08/2013
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04/08/2013
I believe it can be overly stressful to the woman to be subjected to such things.
04/16/2013
What is it going to do? You want to force a woman to see it? Make them feel guilty? As if they don't already feel upset with what is happening. There is no medical NEED for an ultra sound. It would be a waste of time and ultimately a waste of money.
04/22/2013
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nope, that is quite disgusting
Originally posted by
Rawhide
Any ultrasound, invasive or not. This is the question circulating our legislators right now, thanks to the GOP.
05/08/2013
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I voted no before thinking about the aspect of seeing how far along she is. I agree she shouldn't be forced to view it, but I think it's necessary to see where she's at in the pregnancy.
Originally posted by
Ansley
An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I
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An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I speak from experience.)
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05/08/2013