I dont mind PC so much but euphemisms tend to disturb me.
Political Correctness
12/05/2011
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I do get a little sick of political correctness as it seems to go too far some times. More than that, though, I believe in self-determination. If the majority within an ethnic group would rather be called one thing instead of another, then I respect that. As an aside, being a man and former firefighter, I liked the switch to fighter instead of men. It sounded cooler.
Originally posted by
Hannah Savage
America is a melting pot, we all know that. So to avoid hurt or negativity between people of different races, backgrounds, genders, religions, etc., we have tried to create terms that are meant to minimize offense. These include terms
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America is a melting pot, we all know that. So to avoid hurt or negativity between people of different races, backgrounds, genders, religions, etc., we have tried to create terms that are meant to minimize offense. These include terms like:
African-American instead of Black/Negro
Native American instead of Indian
Firefighter instead of Fireman
Visually Challenged instead of Blind
There seems to be a pretty big divide in if trying to be politically correct is really correct. Does it create more harm than good? Has it gone too far? Is it the best we can do to protect those that are offended? Does it harbor further division between races/religions/sexes/ etc?
(I know that even the term 'politically correct' may not be, well, correct... But that is what I know it as. If you know it as something else, feel free to share. I've enabled private voting to try to avoid any negativity.) less
African-American instead of Black/Negro
Native American instead of Indian
Firefighter instead of Fireman
Visually Challenged instead of Blind
There seems to be a pretty big divide in if trying to be politically correct is really correct. Does it create more harm than good? Has it gone too far? Is it the best we can do to protect those that are offended? Does it harbor further division between races/religions/sexes/ etc?
(I know that even the term 'politically correct' may not be, well, correct... But that is what I know it as. If you know it as something else, feel free to share. I've enabled private voting to try to avoid any negativity.) less
12/24/2011
It's called being considerate. I usually find that the ones that tend to get annoyed about political correctness are members of the majority and don't deal with those terms on a regular basis anyway.
12/25/2011
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Haha. You've a good point, Entropy. I hadn't thought of it in that way. Mainly I say 'fireman' because that's the term I grew up with. Now I have images in my mind of Chuck Norris in firefighter garb.
Originally posted by
Entropy
I do get a little sick of political correctness as it seems to go too far some times. More than that, though, I believe in self-determination. If the majority within an ethnic group would rather be called one thing instead of another, then I respect
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I do get a little sick of political correctness as it seems to go too far some times. More than that, though, I believe in self-determination. If the majority within an ethnic group would rather be called one thing instead of another, then I respect that. As an aside, being a man and former firefighter, I liked the switch to fighter instead of men. It sounded cooler.
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12/27/2011
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On Canada we refer to someone from India as being "east Indian" which led to me believing for most of my life that they were from the eastern part of India and I wondered about the western part. I hour maybe their we're less immigrants from there or something. Maybe less populated,all mountains or something political.
Originally posted by
just a sub
i only want to point out that native american and indian are actually two completely different terms so thats not about correctness. some one who is indian is from well india. some one who is native american is a native of america
Personally when PC came out I was annoyed that it was now trendy not to be prejudiced and it seemed like a lot of people were being so called PC just because it was cool. Since I had been raised this way to begin with and never understood hatred anyway it bugged me. But then I realized that if this was the only way to eliminate hatred then so be it.
08/25/2012
I support it, but it's gone too far.
08/25/2012
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I don't think it's funny at all and differently abled doesn't even make sense. You say someone has a mental or physical disability you don't say that they are differently abled because you're letting that define them.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
It's funny but most of my African-American friends would rather be called black or people of color. Most Native Americans would prefer to be called by their tribal names or simply Indians (The word indian is a corruption in spanish meaning
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It's funny but most of my African-American friends would rather be called black or people of color. Most Native Americans would prefer to be called by their tribal names or simply Indians (The word indian is a corruption in spanish meaning roughly 'People of God' or 'People beloved by God'). The gender specific titles should be used I think. If someone is blind or deaf why can't we say blind or deaf...I would think visually impaired or hearing impaired would indicate an inability to see or hear clearly.
I like Differently Abled instead of handicapped since most people I know who have a 'handicap' ARE abled in some other area to make up the difference. Just seems like a more truthful term than anything else. less
I like Differently Abled instead of handicapped since most people I know who have a 'handicap' ARE abled in some other area to make up the difference. Just seems like a more truthful term than anything else. less
08/31/2012
I don't necessarily agree with political correctness i just think it's important to check you're privilege when it comes to certain things and not use oppressive language like racial/sexist/transpho bic slurs etc.
08/31/2012
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In my opinion, it's honestly not difficult to educate yourself and to try and respect the feelings and dignity of every person you meet. I try to be as PC as I can, and to be conscientious of the people around me. I think that a lot of people can get stuck in a mode of behavior that they find it hard to break, and they get defensive when people encourage them to be more aware of the words they use. I understand that change is hard and that this can be a touchy subject, but I wish that people wouldn't fight so hard against making sure they use language that tries not to harm or insult people.
Originally posted by
Hannah Savage
America is a melting pot, we all know that. So to avoid hurt or negativity between people of different races, backgrounds, genders, religions, etc., we have tried to create terms that are meant to minimize offense. These include terms
...
more
America is a melting pot, we all know that. So to avoid hurt or negativity between people of different races, backgrounds, genders, religions, etc., we have tried to create terms that are meant to minimize offense. These include terms like:
African-American instead of Black/Negro
Native American instead of Indian
Firefighter instead of Fireman
Visually Challenged instead of Blind
There seems to be a pretty big divide in if trying to be politically correct is really correct. Does it create more harm than good? Has it gone too far? Is it the best we can do to protect those that are offended? Does it harbor further division between races/religions/sexes/ etc?
(I know that even the term 'politically correct' may not be, well, correct... But that is what I know it as. If you know it as something else, feel free to share. I've enabled private voting to try to avoid any negativity.) less
African-American instead of Black/Negro
Native American instead of Indian
Firefighter instead of Fireman
Visually Challenged instead of Blind
There seems to be a pretty big divide in if trying to be politically correct is really correct. Does it create more harm than good? Has it gone too far? Is it the best we can do to protect those that are offended? Does it harbor further division between races/religions/sexes/ etc?
(I know that even the term 'politically correct' may not be, well, correct... But that is what I know it as. If you know it as something else, feel free to share. I've enabled private voting to try to avoid any negativity.) less
09/06/2012
Certain things are just plain about respect, some things have gone too far. Too far to the point that the group that's being referred to says it's too far.
09/17/2012
It can definitely be a bit much.
09/20/2012
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"George Carlin"
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
I try to be polite and mindful of others' feelings and beliefs...but agree with George Carlin from time to time.
So true. Carlin has a great perspective on the matter.
09/21/2012
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I agree regarding politeness! I think if more people had manners/decency to begin with, maybe political correctness wouldn't have to be a "thing".
Originally posted by
Hannah Savage
I totally agree. I think that being polite, to the best of your knowledge, is what matters.
09/24/2012
I think it has gone way too far. One big problem with political correctness is that it just feeds into the "euphemism treadmill" by which what was once a correct, non-offensive term becomes offensive through perjorative use. For example, moron, idiot, and imbecile used to be the correct words for various severities of intellectual disability. People started using these as insults, so mentally retarded became the friendly term. Now retard is an unacceptable insult, and the term is intellectually or mentally disabled. No matter what inoffensive term we come up with, we will eventually need another.
In general, I just try to use terms that are least offensive, without being ridiculously over sensitive. And I really hate "African American." I can't think of a single black person I know who would rather be called African American than black. Plus, it is rather non-inclusive for people from other places like the carribean. Come to think of it, there are light skinned people from Africa as well. Would that make those of white South African descent African American as well?
The one form of political correctness I can truly get behind is the person-first movement. You don't call someone with autism autistic, they are a person with autism. Person with diabetes instead of a diabetic. The point is to word things so as to not make a disability or condition a defining quality of someone.
In general, I just try to use terms that are least offensive, without being ridiculously over sensitive. And I really hate "African American." I can't think of a single black person I know who would rather be called African American than black. Plus, it is rather non-inclusive for people from other places like the carribean. Come to think of it, there are light skinned people from Africa as well. Would that make those of white South African descent African American as well?
The one form of political correctness I can truly get behind is the person-first movement. You don't call someone with autism autistic, they are a person with autism. Person with diabetes instead of a diabetic. The point is to word things so as to not make a disability or condition a defining quality of someone.
10/18/2012
I've met some people of Native American heritage who say they prefer Indian, because it was an honest mistake (Columbus thought he was in India), and Native American defines them too much by America. So you never know.
I am for being respectful and polite, since everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, but the circular language to avoid stepping on any possible toes gets more offensive, I think. It's basically saying "You are so delicate and fragile that you must be described in special terms, lest your extra-sensitive feelings get hurt". And it leads to confusion for some people, like some young people I've known who had no idea what to call a black person who wasn't from America... or literal African-Americans (immigrants from Africa to America) who got into all kinds of hassles because they weren't black.
So... the non-rambly answer, just be respectful and polite, and treat people the way you would want to be treated. If that includes adding a ton of appellations to their description, okay, but I'm going to continue calling a janitor a janitor, not a waste removal technician.
I am for being respectful and polite, since everyone deserves to be treated with dignity, but the circular language to avoid stepping on any possible toes gets more offensive, I think. It's basically saying "You are so delicate and fragile that you must be described in special terms, lest your extra-sensitive feelings get hurt". And it leads to confusion for some people, like some young people I've known who had no idea what to call a black person who wasn't from America... or literal African-Americans (immigrants from Africa to America) who got into all kinds of hassles because they weren't black.
So... the non-rambly answer, just be respectful and polite, and treat people the way you would want to be treated. If that includes adding a ton of appellations to their description, okay, but I'm going to continue calling a janitor a janitor, not a waste removal technician.
10/18/2012
I don't care about politics.
10/18/2012
I hate the use of the term "political correctness" because it's usually used to express resentment over the negative reaction to someone's problematic (racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic) behavior. There's no such thing as too much respect and decency, and I don't see why you would complain about "too much" political correctness unless you really wanted to be insensitive and inconsiderate without any backlash.
10/28/2012
gone too far
10/29/2012