What do you think?
Do you think we will have a queer president within the next 50 years?
11/04/2011
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Probably not. Not only is there the stigma, but there's the fact that gays make up a minority of the population, anyway. There have only been like six openly gay people in the entire history of Congress.
11/04/2011
I wouldn't be surprised if we had a gay president, but I would be surprised if there was an openly gay president anytime soon.
11/04/2011
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I have my suspicions too about closeted Presidents.
Originally posted by
Taylor
I wouldn't be surprised if we had a gay president, but I would be surprised if there was an openly gay president anytime soon.
Honestly, I'd love to have a gay (or lesbian) Presidential candidate come out when they get sworn in...especially if it's a Republican candidate!
11/04/2011
Only if they pretend not to be queer.
11/05/2011
My guess is no, unless like Elnoa said, they pretend they're not. I will be shocked if we have a non-Christian president by then. Look at the last candidate who ran as I believe agnostic or some other religion in the last election. He didn't even make it to the final votes because of religion and people flamed him on BOTH sides (I'll be damned if I can't remember who it was but he was on the republican side)
11/05/2011
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Already had one... possibly two but I don't remember for sure which one was the second. And as far as having one vs having one who is open about it... probably. Its not so much an issue for one to be open and out here at home but more the concern on how other world leaders may react or interact. Its sad that a person has to pplay the game and worry about being who they are because for me I don't care if they are or are not either way - I wouldn't use that in a decision in electing them. I guess thats why they say "That's politics - a dirty game of chess played by blindfolded players".
Originally posted by
Curves
What do you think?
11/05/2011
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Which two?
Originally posted by
Mister CreamySweet
Already had one... possibly two but I don't remember for sure which one was the second. And as far as having one vs having one who is open about it... probably. Its not so much an issue for one to be open and out here at home but more the concern
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Already had one... possibly two but I don't remember for sure which one was the second. And as far as having one vs having one who is open about it... probably. Its not so much an issue for one to be open and out here at home but more the concern on how other world leaders may react or interact. Its sad that a person has to pplay the game and worry about being who they are because for me I don't care if they are or are not either way - I wouldn't use that in a decision in electing them. I guess thats why they say "That's politics - a dirty game of chess played by blindfolded players".
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11/06/2011
This might sound jokey, but i am completely serious, Neil Patrick Harris. He's likable, charismatic, familiar with TV and other social media, has will have good will with older people because of Doogie Howser and he's awesome. He could also be the first American Doctor, hopefully. Even if just for a special.
11/07/2011
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I'm curious, too.
Originally posted by
dv8
Which two?
I'm open to the possibility. A lot can happen in fifty years. Just look at Obama. Would he have been elected fifty years ago?
11/07/2011
James Buchanan was already the first gay President. He never married, lived with another man his whole adult life, and was referred to by Congress as "Aunt Fancy".
11/07/2011
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There is absolutely zero historical evidence that he was gay. I really wish people would stop getting their history lessons from Cosmo and Maxim.
Originally posted by
hyacinthgirl
James Buchanan was already the first gay President. He never married, lived with another man his whole adult life, and was referred to by Congress as "Aunt Fancy".
11/07/2011
Unlikely but probably more likely then we think after all I wouldn't have thought America would elect a black president a few years ago and it also depends on if we are talking closeted or open.
11/07/2011
It could happen. I would have no problem with a GLBT president. I doubt it will happen soon, however. People are very bigoted.
I heard people actually come out and SAY they wouldn't vote for Obama simply because of his race. WTF?
We have to remember all the prejudiced people who vote, then wonder how anything gets done.
There is so much hatred for Gay people, I don't understand it, but it is a very strong factor in many people's personal philosophies. (Not that they call it that.)
I heard people actually come out and SAY they wouldn't vote for Obama simply because of his race. WTF?
We have to remember all the prejudiced people who vote, then wonder how anything gets done.
There is so much hatred for Gay people, I don't understand it, but it is a very strong factor in many people's personal philosophies. (Not that they call it that.)
11/07/2011
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I do not read either Cosmo or Maxim. I came to the conclusion that he was at least bisexual based on his intimacy with Walter Rufus King, his frequent talk about his "communion" with his housemate, or the few surviving letters that are even more intimate than the generally flowery and loving language of the time would permit between mere good friends. Or maybe he was generally straight, but considered King his soulmate. At the very least, the language he describes his friendship with King in is extremely similar to the language that Walt Whitman described his male lovers in. It's also possible he was asexual, or demisexual, and simply had a mortal terror of being alone, but those still fly under the queer flag.
Originally posted by
UnknownGirl
There is absolutely zero historical evidence that he was gay. I really wish people would stop getting their history lessons from Cosmo and Maxim.
Edited to add: If I was one to get my historical "facts" from magazines, as opposed to research, I would probably believe Shakespeare was gay or bisexual, which I do not believe. He was obviously in love with the mysterious Young Man, but is distinctly not thrilled with the man's penis, and laments that he couldn't be a she. Bi-romantic, possibly, bisexual, unlikely.
Though on the subject of queer presidents, I think we're likely to get an open asexual before an open homosexual or bisexual. However, the generation growing up right now is generally either supportive or indifferent to the homosexual community.
11/07/2011
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I think we're likely to get an open asexual before an open homosexual or bisexual. HILLARY!
Originally posted by
hyacinthgirl
I do not read either Cosmo or Maxim. I came to the conclusion that he was at least bisexual based on his intimacy with Walter Rufus King, his frequent talk about his "communion" with his housemate, or the few surviving letters that are even
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I do not read either Cosmo or Maxim. I came to the conclusion that he was at least bisexual based on his intimacy with Walter Rufus King, his frequent talk about his "communion" with his housemate, or the few surviving letters that are even more intimate than the generally flowery and loving language of the time would permit between mere good friends. Or maybe he was generally straight, but considered King his soulmate. At the very least, the language he describes his friendship with King in is extremely similar to the language that Walt Whitman described his male lovers in. It's also possible he was asexual, or demisexual, and simply had a mortal terror of being alone, but those still fly under the queer flag.
Edited to add: If I was one to get my historical "facts" from magazines, as opposed to research, I would probably believe Shakespeare was gay or bisexual, which I do not believe. He was obviously in love with the mysterious Young Man, but is distinctly not thrilled with the man's penis, and laments that he couldn't be a she. Bi-romantic, possibly, bisexual, unlikely.
Though on the subject of queer presidents, I think we're likely to get an open asexual before an open homosexual or bisexual. However, the generation growing up right now is generally either supportive or indifferent to the homosexual community. less
Edited to add: If I was one to get my historical "facts" from magazines, as opposed to research, I would probably believe Shakespeare was gay or bisexual, which I do not believe. He was obviously in love with the mysterious Young Man, but is distinctly not thrilled with the man's penis, and laments that he couldn't be a she. Bi-romantic, possibly, bisexual, unlikely.
Though on the subject of queer presidents, I think we're likely to get an open asexual before an open homosexual or bisexual. However, the generation growing up right now is generally either supportive or indifferent to the homosexual community. less
11/07/2011
50 years? Hmm..I wouldn't be surprised within 50 years. Took long enough for us to get a president that wasn't a white male though!
11/07/2011
Dunno. Things are progressing quickly in this country, but I think that 50 years might not be long enough for that, unfortunately.
11/09/2011
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Sad but true
Originally posted by
Ghost
Only if they pretend not to be queer.
11/09/2011
We haven't had a female president yet and I think an openly queer president would be more unlikely.
11/09/2011
Maybe...it would be nice
11/10/2011
Odds are we've already had a president who wasn't entirely heterosexual (looking at you, Lincoln). But I doubt we will have an openly gay president anytime soon.
11/25/2011
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No. Not if the president is out.
Originally posted by
Curves
What do you think?
04/04/2012
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That would be unspeakably awesome. And I'd go straight to my conservative older brother's house and stand in the middle of his living room laughing like a madwoman if it ever did happen, especially if he'd voted for said candidate. I love my brother tremendously, but some opportunities are just too good to pass up.
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
I have my suspicions too about closeted Presidents.
Honestly, I'd love to have a gay (or lesbian) Presidential candidate come out when they get sworn in...especially if it's a Republican candidate!
Honestly, I'd love to have a gay (or lesbian) Presidential candidate come out when they get sworn in...especially if it's a Republican candidate!
In fifty years? It's a long shot, especially with sexual topics of any kind still being so hot-button in this country, but it might happen. More likely within the next century or so.
04/08/2012
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Sadly, I doubt it. I'd love to see it, and I'd vote for them in a second, but our country is too anti-gay just about everything -- look at the people who we have running.
Originally posted by
Curves
What do you think?
04/08/2012
Anything is possible, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.
04/08/2012
Well, I would like to see it happen but the homophobes don't seem to be going away.
04/09/2012
I say give it time. Iceland has the first openly gay/lesbian leader, after all.
04/09/2012
Considering we just now have our first openly queer candidate of a major party and he's gotten zero attention... no. It'll be a lot longer.
04/09/2012
Who's that?
04/10/2012
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