What is your stance on the Chick-fil-a controversy?

Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
They are donating to know hate groups. This is NOT just voicing a view point. This is actively working to hurt someone else, to strip them of right and equality.

If a company donated to the KKK, we would rightful call them out them and we wouldn't call Black people "self-righteous, close-minded person" for protesting the funding of the KKK.

If a company donated to know neo nazi groups, we would rightful call them out them and we wouldn't call Jew people "self-righteous, close-minded person" for protesting the funding neo nazi.

So, can anyone explain to me why when gay people protest the funding of know hate group, they get this moronic "your like them" argument? Are gay people trying to get christian to be declared metal ill, not allowed to marry, not allowed to teach in schools or deported? No. Will guess what that is what the groups this restaurant donates to want. Try to stop that isn't being a "self-righteous, close-minded person" it is self-defense.

It is really very simple if your a company, don't fund know hate groups. It not that hard, there are plenty of charities to pick from. If you accidentally donate to a hate group: stop, apologize, donate to someone else. Do not be proud of it. If you do not follow these step prepare to be boycotted.
08/06/2012
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
There are no Chik-Fil-As here, so it doesn't apply to me. That said, I'm glad I'm not a T-Rex. Such tiny arms. I'd go mad trying to scratch my back. I reckon that's what we see in all those T-Rex vs Triceratops pictures. They're not fighting because Rexy wants to eat it. They're fighting because Triceratops doesn't want his horn used to scratch Rexy's backside again.

Triceratops: Back! Back, you savage!
T-Rex: Please, just a quick scratch. My arms are so short.
Triceratops: No! Last time my horns stunk for two months! Never again!
T-Rex: Pwetty pwease?
Triceratops: Go use a tree!
T-Rex: But they can't hold my weight. They buckle. The Brachiosaurs make fun of me.
Triceratops: Tough tits, Toots.
T-Rex: Rawr!
08/06/2012
Contributor: (k)InkyIvy (k)InkyIvy
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
They are donating to know hate groups. This is NOT just voicing a view point. This is actively working to hurt someone else, to strip them of right and equality.

If a company donated to the KKK, we would rightful call them out them and we ... more
I'm afraid you misinterpreted what I was trying to say, which was something to the extent of "We could name-call and insult, but it's better to take the high road."
It's easy enough to attack someone who is attacking you (or your beliefs), but it says far more for your character to "take the high road" than to stoop down to the opposition's level by partaking in the same behavior (name-calling and such) that they do.
08/06/2012
Contributor: (k)InkyIvy (k)InkyIvy
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
There are no Chik-Fil-As here, so it doesn't apply to me. That said, I'm glad I'm not a T-Rex. Such tiny arms. I'd go mad trying to scratch my back. I reckon that's what we see in all those T-Rex vs Triceratops pictures. ... more
I love this!
08/06/2012
Contributor: Femme Mystique Femme Mystique
I certainly think he has a right to say those things and to donate money to organizations as he sees fit, albeit hate groups in my opinion. As a vegetarian, I never ate there to begin with and especially avoided their stores once I found out awhile ago about their policy on discriminating against gay employees.
08/06/2012
Contributor: (k)InkyIvy (k)InkyIvy
Petite Valentine shared a wondrously useful link, so I'd like to re-share in the hopes that more people read the content.
Owldolatrous Productions- The Chick Fellatio: stuck in the craw
08/06/2012
Contributor: Princess Zelda Princess Zelda
NEVER going to eat there again....
08/06/2012
Contributor: TWE112 TWE112
I have nothing against gays and think they should be able to do as they please, but I don't really care that Chik Fil A is opposed to it. I don't really eat there anyways so whatever.
08/06/2012
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by (k)InkyIvy
I'm afraid you misinterpreted what I was trying to say, which was something to the extent of "We could name-call and insult, but it's better to take the high road."
It's easy enough to attack someone who is attacking you (or ... more
And your missing my point. There is name calling in any debate but we would not be calling for protesters to take the "high road" if the hate group where the KKK or a neo-nazi group. If it where either of those group that was reviving funds from this organization we would not stop to criticize the tone of some of the protestors the way many many people are with this debate. Name calling would be seen ,rightfully, as trivial in comparison to a large national cooperation funding a hate group and being seemingly proud of it.

Time is a finite resource, how we invest it reflects our properties. I see no reasons to invest in telling gay people and their allies to take the high road when I could be investing that time in telling people that fund hate groups to stop.
08/06/2012
Contributor: TheGreat TheGreat
I don't like my money going to hate groups, so no, I will not be eating there again.
08/06/2012
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
He not only stated his opinion, it became public that he was using corporate funds to donate to anti-gay groups. I won't support that. Though I will miss their lemonade.
08/06/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
They are donating to know hate groups. This is NOT just voicing a view point. This is actively working to hurt someone else, to strip them of right and equality.

If a company donated to the KKK, we would rightful call them out them and we ... more
You are so right! This is nothing but absolute hate against those who aren't heterosexual. This is actively donating to "hate" groups. There is no difference between KKK, Nazi's, and anti-gay organizations. They are discriminating against a group of people for who they are!

It sickens me that there are so many people that are for such violation of civil rights. I don't understand what is the matter with the close mindedness of society! Just because the majority's beliefs (AKA religion) is against something; doesn't mean that that belief should be a set law. Beliefs have no place being mixed up with laws. And when they mix, all they do is harm to individual rights.

If you are against some people have basic and human rights; what other rights are you against our country having? You can't pick and choice who you want to have such rights? It doesn't work that way and makes us look hypocritical because we are a national that is based on freedoms; yet we have a whole group of people who are so widely discriminated against.
08/06/2012
Contributor: WhoopieDoo WhoopieDoo
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
Everybody is entitled to their own belief, but there is quite a bit of room between agreeing to disagree, and actively working to criminalize another person's belief. The latter is what the Family Research Council and the Marriage & Family ... more
Yep. It sucks that they have the most tempting fast food chicken. If it was just his stupid opinion I wouldn't care, but since Chick-Fil-A ACTIVELY OPPOSES civil rights, I can't support them. It disgusted my husband (a teacher, in the south) to hear all of his coworkers talking about supporting Chick-Fil-A and he couldn't say a thing (lest he be ostracized).
08/06/2012
Contributor: Stinkytofu10 Stinkytofu10
I don't like chick-fil-a anyways. So, I won't be eating there either way.
08/06/2012
Contributor: G&L G&L
Fried chicken is tasty.
08/06/2012
Contributor: MistressDandelion MistressDandelion
There are no chick-a-fils here, so I don't have to worry about having given money to them in my life, but if there would be I'd boycott them, or order a super big order dressed the most fabulously I can, and when they arrive with it I wouldn't be in the shop anymore...
08/06/2012
Contributor: rekarf rekarf
I completely disagree with him. I will still eat there.

Chic-fil-a is a southern company and a lot of southerners have the same views, so they're not going to shut down anytime soon and I don't eat there enough to be a regular costumer.

I think it's stupid how they're trying to cover up themselves as well.
08/06/2012
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
The food is gross anyway...

Also, I kinda want to be a t-rex
08/06/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by (k)InkyIvy
It seems like everyone's talking about the controversy over Chick-fil-a's president recently voicing his stance on gay rights.
He said "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think ... more
Plain and simple...he has the right to his opinion, and I have the right to not support his company due to their donations to organizations that don't coincide with my beliefs.
08/07/2012
Contributor: Hallmar82 Hallmar82
The Chick-fil-A owner is not discriminating against anyone in the LGTB community by supporting Christian religious beliefs. They don't refuse service to anyone who isn't heterosexual or has a LGTB marriage. I'm surprised that the LGBT activists who want to boycott Chick-fil-A are actually surprised by his opinion that marriage is male/female... because he's a Christian! That's like being suprised that the Pope believes marriage is male/female only. Christians aren't going to change their beliefs because of a boycott. I should know, I am one. What surprises me is that the same people who want to boycot Chick-fil-A don't seem nearly as concerned about how gays and lesbians are treated in other countries. Laws governing marriage and partnerships (civil unions) are a legal matter, not religious. The county clerk signs your marriage certificate, not the archbishop. Only politicians and judges can make LGTB marriages legally recognized. Don't bark up the wrong tree.
08/07/2012
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Hallmar82
The Chick-fil-A owner is not discriminating against anyone in the LGTB community by supporting Christian religious beliefs. They don't refuse service to anyone who isn't heterosexual or has a LGTB marriage. I'm surprised that the LGBT ... more
Back up.

I'm a Christian and I 100% DO NOT BELIEVE that marriage is male/female only. Nor does the Christian church I attend, which performs civil ceremonies for the LGTB community, and will no doubt perform marriages for the LGTB community once my state makes it legal.

Dan Cathy may identify as a Christian, but his anti-gay marriage stance does not reflect universal Christian religious beliefs.
08/07/2012
Contributor: Hallmar82 Hallmar82
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
Back up.

I'm a Christian and I 100% DO NOT BELIEVE that marriage is male/female only. Nor does the Christian church I attend, which performs civil ceremonies for the LGTB community, and will no doubt perform marriages for the LGTB ... more
That's true. There are Christian denominations that recognize non-heterosexual marriage. Those that do not recognize non-heterosexual marriage do so because of their theology too. Not all share the same theology, but they're all religious beliefs. There's a lot of pagan theology that I don't agree with, but I still recognize it as a religious belief. Everyone is entitled to say and do things according to their religious belief because of the First Amendment here. I would not support pig farmers boycotting Jewish and Muslim businesses because it's clear that's their religious beliefs and it's their right to believe it.
08/07/2012
Contributor: BG529 BG529
Everyone is entitled to there own belief and I have nothing against that. But, I feel that He is wrong for what is he doing. and that he will be punished for that when he get to the gates. I believe that we are forgiven once we get there not before. and the only person who can judge us is god.
08/07/2012
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by Hallmar82
The Chick-fil-A owner is not discriminating against anyone in the LGTB community by supporting Christian religious beliefs. They don't refuse service to anyone who isn't heterosexual or has a LGTB marriage. I'm surprised that the LGBT ... more
You objection is based on a straw man. I'm going to in bold once again make the point clear: They are funding know hate groups. I don't give a damn what he thinks I care that he is funding a know hate group. That he believe marriage is male/female is not surprising that he is donating to a know hate group and is proud of it it. Most people who believe gay marriage is wrong don't fund know hate groups. The point to boycotting click a fill is not to change anyone beliefs it is to change their behavior, in other word to stop them from funding know hate groups.
08/07/2012
Contributor: Kitka Kitka
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
He has a right to have all the wrong opinions he wants, and say whatever he wants, but everyone else has an equal right to call him out on his bigotry, or ignore him, as they see fit.

If this was a random employees saying mean things, and that ... more
Very good point, I'd have to agree with you here.
08/07/2012
Contributor: PassionCpl PassionCpl
I LOVE Chick-Fil-A but I won't go there again. I don't believe in 'God' (no, I'm not an Atheist) but find it incredibly arrogant when someone will say with absolute conviction that they know what 'God' wants. He has as much knowledge of what God wants as I have of of the contents of Salma Hayek's panty drawer (and at least there's a good chance that her panty collection actually exists...)

And for anyone who has to have a Chick-Fil-A fix, here's a less bigoted alternative without funding the hate groups:

Chick-Fil-Gay sandwich
08/07/2012
Contributor: MeenahPeixxxes MeenahPeixxxes
I think it's childish to punish a few people for the whole group. I am sure the people who work at the joint aren't representing the bigotry of the man in charge.
08/07/2012
Contributor: (k)InkyIvy (k)InkyIvy
It seems that certain people are determined to get fired-up/agitated, becoming borderline hostile, even to those who agree with them...
I was hoping that this could be a civilized discussion of thoughts and viewpoints.
08/14/2012
Contributor: Claire-Bear Claire-Bear
I'm glad I'm not a t-rex? LOL
08/14/2012