Use anything you have nearby to fight someone off with but don't carry around wasp spray just because there isn't anything else. It's obvious you have it, and the can is so big it would be hard to grip it properly to correctly aim and spray. Same with mace. So many women and men incorrectly operate mace and spray themselves in the fucking eyes because they never bothered to learn how to use the damn thing. This is also why people are injured by guns and knives that they buy for protection. anything that you can use as a weapon to defend yourself can do damage to you.
Wasp spray for defense.
08/25/2010
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I agree Blinker, my brother taught me that when I was like 5. I would grab something, like a stick, and try to hit him with it. Every time he would take it from me and hit me with it.
Originally posted by
Blinker
Use anything you have nearby to fight someone off with but don't carry around wasp spray just because there isn't anything else. It's obvious you have it, and the can is so big it would be hard to grip it properly to correctly aim and
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Use anything you have nearby to fight someone off with but don't carry around wasp spray just because there isn't anything else. It's obvious you have it, and the can is so big it would be hard to grip it properly to correctly aim and spray. Same with mace. So many women and men incorrectly operate mace and spray themselves in the fucking eyes because they never bothered to learn how to use the damn thing. This is also why people are injured by guns and knives that they buy for protection. anything that you can use as a weapon to defend yourself can do damage to you.
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That is the main reason I took self defense, and learned a lot of hand to hand combat (from my brother and others). I also have taught my kids and wife. I taught them to only use weapons as a last resort. Thankfully I/ we have never had to use any of it yet. (knock on wood)
08/25/2010
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Wasp spray is alot cheaper then Mace. It has simmilar charactersitics. It is labled as OC but it is the same exact formula. It works well for training.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
I find it a bit disconcerting that the US Military uses a pesticide as a training tool. These chemicals are formulated to kill quickly and can do a great deal of damage to the respiratory system, the immune system and the digestive system of insects,
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I find it a bit disconcerting that the US Military uses a pesticide as a training tool. These chemicals are formulated to kill quickly and can do a great deal of damage to the respiratory system, the immune system and the digestive system of insects, animals and humans alike.
People who are accidentally exposed to this stuff have come into the ER and often come in VERY sick. People have died from exposure, both long term and short term to anti-cholinergic drugs, which is what most pesticides are. We have to dose them with heavy Atropine, give them respiratory support, and sometimes they need dialysis to rid the body of this stuff. Some people, especially children who have consumed these anticholinergics, and people who work for pesticide companies and have somehow been exposed to large amounts of these drugs either by breathing it, or absorbing it through the skin have died from exposure to them.
A few years ago, two boys who walked across a golf course which was very heavily sprayed in the evening with an anticholinergic pesticide were brought in to our ER and they were both near death. Thankfully, with medical care, they both survived.
Your comments that the Military uses these for "Training" scares me a little. less
People who are accidentally exposed to this stuff have come into the ER and often come in VERY sick. People have died from exposure, both long term and short term to anti-cholinergic drugs, which is what most pesticides are. We have to dose them with heavy Atropine, give them respiratory support, and sometimes they need dialysis to rid the body of this stuff. Some people, especially children who have consumed these anticholinergics, and people who work for pesticide companies and have somehow been exposed to large amounts of these drugs either by breathing it, or absorbing it through the skin have died from exposure to them.
A few years ago, two boys who walked across a golf course which was very heavily sprayed in the evening with an anticholinergic pesticide were brought in to our ER and they were both near death. Thankfully, with medical care, they both survived.
Your comments that the Military uses these for "Training" scares me a little. less
Wait "I find it a bit disconcerting that the US Military uses a pesticide as a training tool. These chemicals are formulated to kill quickly and can do a great deal of damage to the respiratory system, the immune system and the digestive system of insects, animals and humans alike"
Lets see...um how about walking through the streets of Iraq after an explosion ever smelt those fumes, or when 20 people sit in a small room thats meant for just a few people and clean guns, or the smell inside a a tank once you start firing the cannon, you get the point. Yes some of it is probably bad for us 20 years down the road, but its sacrifices like that that makes the United States Armed Forces so dam good at what they do.
Look back into the early days of the corps, they would use all sorts of chemicals to train under rigourus conditions. Anyway.......
08/28/2010
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