Now that the social website is a public traded company, is it a BUY or a SELL?
Is FACEBOOK a Buy or a Sell?
05/25/2012
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Well, considering they are being sued and Morgan Stanley is about to have the FTC so far up their ass they won't know what to do - I'm gonna wager that everyone should dump their stock.
05/25/2012
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If every underwriter was penalized for lying to clients and shareholders, there would be no stock exchange.
Originally posted by
Ansley
Well, considering they are being sued and Morgan Stanley is about to have the FTC so far up their ass they won't know what to do - I'm gonna wager that everyone should dump their stock.
05/25/2012
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That is sooo not the point in this case. The information wasn't released to the public, only certain "key" investors that Morgan Stanley didn't want to lose when the stock goes belly-up.
Originally posted by
Petite Valentine
If every underwriter was penalized for lying to clients and shareholders, there would be no stock exchange.
05/25/2012
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No? I don't see Facebook shuttering their doors over the IPO, and while revenue may not grow at an accelerated rate thereby driving the stock price into the Google-sphere, they will still be an okay performer for at least the next couple of quarters.
Originally posted by
Ansley
That is sooo not the point in this case. The information wasn't released to the public, only certain "key" investors that Morgan Stanley didn't want to lose when the stock goes belly-up.
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That is sooo not the point in this case. The information wasn't released to the public, only certain "key" investors that Morgan Stanley didn't want to lose when the stock goes belly-up.
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The people who are really in trouble are, Morgan Stanley. From the Huffington Post:
"Secretary of the Commonwealth William Galvin said his office is investigating whether Morgan Stanley selectively divulged to some clients that its analyst had cut his revenue estimate for Facebook."
That type of thing does not fly with regulators and is likely to make life at Morgan Stanley fairly miserable. However, Facebook's culpability is small. They made an earnings revision. It was Morgan Stanley's responsibility to inform investors. Now, if Morgan Stanley sues Facebook...
05/25/2012
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I need some more help here!! Where is JR?
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
Now that the social website is a public traded company, is it a BUY or a SELL?
05/25/2012
I saw a report earlier today... no one is coming out unscathed. NASDAQ is in the crosshairs because their computer system failed for two hours on the initial offering day, and brokers did not get electronic confirmation of purchases or sales. Thank god I'm too poor to buy stock.
05/25/2012
Facebook was a flop don't waste your time with it.
05/25/2012
I had no idea FB was a stock. What a strange world we live in.
05/26/2012
I'm not the smartest investor - that's why I stick to mutual funds - but there's no way I would buy FB stock - but I'm probably wrong and so th MF managers can decide how much to buy.
05/26/2012
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I'd rather buy sex toys.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
Now that the social website is a public traded company, is it a BUY or a SELL?
05/26/2012
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Facebook's IPO took place only last week. It's pretty much been headline news.
Originally posted by
Allison.Wilder
I had no idea FB was a stock. What a strange world we live in.
05/26/2012
I don't know anything about stocks so... I'll just be spending my money on new toys and goodies!
05/26/2012
My dad has an account with a large investing firm. For the first round, only certain people were "allowed" to buy FB stock. In most cases, you have to have had at least $250,000 in trades or already invested, for some firms, you needed $500,00. I find this practice appalling, as the middle class and students made FB what it is and few of them will get the first round at the discounted price.
My dad was sent a questionnaire by his broker to see what he was going to do with the stock IF he was allowed to buy it. He had enough trades and enough invested in the firm to be "selected" but he said having to be "chosen" by a questionnaire is very uncommon.
He said on the questionnaire that he was buying the stock for investment. BLAAAAT! WRONG! He was DENIED the stock, because they were looking only for those were buying the stock on speculation.
Now, I don't know a lot about stocks or investing. But, my dad said in most cases buying on speculation means you buy the stock with the hope that the stock's price will go down and people will lose, and those who bought on speculation would "win" usually by selling it quickly as soon as the Unwashed Masses were allowed to buy it, thus dropping the price and screwing anyone who buys it later. People DO this, buy stocks with INTENTION of screwing other people. As my father refuses to buy on speculation, he was denied access to the stock.
This entire thing makes me ill. Only certain people are "allowed" to buy certain stocks and even those who have good trading histories can be denied if they are going to do the "wrong" thing with the stock.
Yet one more proof that this is not a fair system, and that the whole system is set up so the rich get richer and the rest of us barely scrape by.
BTW, my father is now glad he wasn't "allowed" to buy the stock, with it falling and the trouble with the IPO.
My dad was sent a questionnaire by his broker to see what he was going to do with the stock IF he was allowed to buy it. He had enough trades and enough invested in the firm to be "selected" but he said having to be "chosen" by a questionnaire is very uncommon.
He said on the questionnaire that he was buying the stock for investment. BLAAAAT! WRONG! He was DENIED the stock, because they were looking only for those were buying the stock on speculation.
Now, I don't know a lot about stocks or investing. But, my dad said in most cases buying on speculation means you buy the stock with the hope that the stock's price will go down and people will lose, and those who bought on speculation would "win" usually by selling it quickly as soon as the Unwashed Masses were allowed to buy it, thus dropping the price and screwing anyone who buys it later. People DO this, buy stocks with INTENTION of screwing other people. As my father refuses to buy on speculation, he was denied access to the stock.
This entire thing makes me ill. Only certain people are "allowed" to buy certain stocks and even those who have good trading histories can be denied if they are going to do the "wrong" thing with the stock.
Yet one more proof that this is not a fair system, and that the whole system is set up so the rich get richer and the rest of us barely scrape by.
BTW, my father is now glad he wasn't "allowed" to buy the stock, with it falling and the trouble with the IPO.
05/26/2012
P'Gell thank you for explaining the stock process as far as your father explained it to you. I really don't know much about stocks so it's nice to get some clarification.
I never had to take any financial classes when I went to business school because I wasn't going into finance. I had to take a ton of accounting and economics but not stock finance.
I never had to take any financial classes when I went to business school because I wasn't going into finance. I had to take a ton of accounting and economics but not stock finance.
05/26/2012
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You're welcome. It's just what my father told me. I know little about stocks and investing, (we've never had much money to do it and most of our investing is just my husband's retirement account and some stock from the company he works for)
Originally posted by
unfulfilled
P'Gell thank you for explaining the stock process as far as your father explained it to you. I really don't know much about stocks so it's nice to get some clarification.
I never had to take any financial classes when I went to ... more
I never had to take any financial classes when I went to ... more
P'Gell thank you for explaining the stock process as far as your father explained it to you. I really don't know much about stocks so it's nice to get some clarification.
I never had to take any financial classes when I went to business school because I wasn't going into finance. I had to take a ton of accounting and economics but not stock finance. less
I never had to take any financial classes when I went to business school because I wasn't going into finance. I had to take a ton of accounting and economics but not stock finance. less
My dad has invested for years, but has gotten really disgusted with the process in the last... well since Bush Jr was in office. He felt it was bad before, but has gotten worse and really is NOT a fair way for middle class people to make money.
There is too much insider trading (which is usually completely tolerated. The owner of FB is an "outsider" so he's fair game to offer up as a "bad guy" while most other CEOs of companies do the same thing or worse and NEVER get caught), computer micro trading and outright lying from companies for anyone to make any money in the market anymore.
05/26/2012
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Thanks for posting this.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
My dad has an account with a large investing firm. For the first round, only certain people were "allowed" to buy FB stock. In most cases, you have to have had at least $250,000 in trades or already invested, for some firms, you needed
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more
My dad has an account with a large investing firm. For the first round, only certain people were "allowed" to buy FB stock. In most cases, you have to have had at least $250,000 in trades or already invested, for some firms, you needed $500,00. I find this practice appalling, as the middle class and students made FB what it is and few of them will get the first round at the discounted price.
My dad was sent a questionnaire by his broker to see what he was going to do with the stock IF he was allowed to buy it. He had enough trades and enough invested in the firm to be "selected" but he said having to be "chosen" by a questionnaire is very uncommon.
He said on the questionnaire that he was buying the stock for investment. BLAAAAT! WRONG! He was DENIED the stock, because they were looking only for those were buying the stock on speculation.
Now, I don't know a lot about stocks or investing. But, my dad said in most cases buying on speculation means you buy the stock with the hope that the stock's price will go down and people will lose, and those who bought on speculation would "win" usually by selling it quickly as soon as the Unwashed Masses were allowed to buy it, thus dropping the price and screwing anyone who buys it later. People DO this, buy stocks with INTENTION of screwing other people. As my father refuses to buy on speculation, he was denied access to the stock.
This entire thing makes me ill. Only certain people are "allowed" to buy certain stocks and even those who have good trading histories can be denied if they are going to do the "wrong" thing with the stock.
Yet one more proof that this is not a fair system, and that the whole system is set up so the rich get richer and the rest of us barely scrape by.
BTW, my father is now glad he wasn't "allowed" to buy the stock, with it falling and the trouble with the IPO. less
My dad was sent a questionnaire by his broker to see what he was going to do with the stock IF he was allowed to buy it. He had enough trades and enough invested in the firm to be "selected" but he said having to be "chosen" by a questionnaire is very uncommon.
He said on the questionnaire that he was buying the stock for investment. BLAAAAT! WRONG! He was DENIED the stock, because they were looking only for those were buying the stock on speculation.
Now, I don't know a lot about stocks or investing. But, my dad said in most cases buying on speculation means you buy the stock with the hope that the stock's price will go down and people will lose, and those who bought on speculation would "win" usually by selling it quickly as soon as the Unwashed Masses were allowed to buy it, thus dropping the price and screwing anyone who buys it later. People DO this, buy stocks with INTENTION of screwing other people. As my father refuses to buy on speculation, he was denied access to the stock.
This entire thing makes me ill. Only certain people are "allowed" to buy certain stocks and even those who have good trading histories can be denied if they are going to do the "wrong" thing with the stock.
Yet one more proof that this is not a fair system, and that the whole system is set up so the rich get richer and the rest of us barely scrape by.
BTW, my father is now glad he wasn't "allowed" to buy the stock, with it falling and the trouble with the IPO. less
I knew that the FB stock was not available for purchase to everyone, but I didn't know the particulars... and it turns out it's worse than I thought.
05/26/2012
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The rich get richer, not because they "work harder" but because they have more opportunity to make money that "regular people" NEVER get.
Originally posted by
Petite Valentine
Thanks for posting this.
I knew that the FB stock was not available for purchase to everyone, but I didn't know the particulars... and it turns out it's worse than I thought.
I knew that the FB stock was not available for purchase to everyone, but I didn't know the particulars... and it turns out it's worse than I thought.
It really pisses me off.
05/26/2012
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i hear ya on that one! :p
Originally posted by
Petite Valentine
I saw a report earlier today... no one is coming out unscathed. NASDAQ is in the crosshairs because their computer system failed for two hours on the initial offering day, and brokers did not get electronic confirmation of purchases or sales. Thank
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I saw a report earlier today... no one is coming out unscathed. NASDAQ is in the crosshairs because their computer system failed for two hours on the initial offering day, and brokers did not get electronic confirmation of purchases or sales. Thank god I'm too poor to buy stock.
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05/26/2012
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stop playing with your sex toys and read some news!!!
Originally posted by
Allison.Wilder
I had no idea FB was a stock. What a strange world we live in.
05/26/2012
spend money on a new toy instead.
05/26/2012
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Zuckerberg has never been good with money. Definitely choosing the sex toy.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
Now that the social website is a public traded company, is it a BUY or a SELL?
05/26/2012
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I also heard that Facebook AND even Google will, in 10 years from now, peak and fall just like Yahoo did at one time. But, despite the IPO mess, I think it will be a buy. The company has come out with over 19 billion dollars of working capital to be used for acquisition of other companies to generate future earnings.
Originally posted by
Petite Valentine
I saw a report earlier today... no one is coming out unscathed. NASDAQ is in the crosshairs because their computer system failed for two hours on the initial offering day, and brokers did not get electronic confirmation of purchases or sales. Thank
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more
I saw a report earlier today... no one is coming out unscathed. NASDAQ is in the crosshairs because their computer system failed for two hours on the initial offering day, and brokers did not get electronic confirmation of purchases or sales. Thank god I'm too poor to buy stock.
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05/26/2012
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What some people cannot appreciate is that when you INVEST in stocks OR lets say real estate, it is all about risk taking. Most people forget to realize that the price of a house goes up AND down. Hard to believe!!! There is NO guarantee that an investment in a HOME would make you money. That kind of thinking is naive. It has nothing to do with a bank issuing mortgages either; IT was everything to do with a 'purchaser' putting NOTHING down as a downpayment. The prospective owner had NO 'skin in the game' in his home purchase. Thus thru the years, it was taken for granted that a home always went UP in price (value). Well, a reality check of that day has now arrived.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
You're welcome. It's just what my father told me. I know little about stocks and investing, (we've never had much money to do it and most of our investing is just my husband's retirement account and some stock from the company he
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more
You're welcome. It's just what my father told me. I know little about stocks and investing, (we've never had much money to do it and most of our investing is just my husband's retirement account and some stock from the company he works for)
My dad has invested for years, but has gotten really disgusted with the process in the last... well since Bush Jr was in office. He felt it was bad before, but has gotten worse and really is NOT a fair way for middle class people to make money.
There is too much insider trading (which is usually completely tolerated. The owner of FB is an "outsider" so he's fair game to offer up as a "bad guy" while most other CEOs of companies do the same thing or worse and NEVER get caught), computer micro trading and outright lying from companies for anyone to make any money in the market anymore. less
My dad has invested for years, but has gotten really disgusted with the process in the last... well since Bush Jr was in office. He felt it was bad before, but has gotten worse and really is NOT a fair way for middle class people to make money.
There is too much insider trading (which is usually completely tolerated. The owner of FB is an "outsider" so he's fair game to offer up as a "bad guy" while most other CEOs of companies do the same thing or worse and NEVER get caught), computer micro trading and outright lying from companies for anyone to make any money in the market anymore. less
The stock market is a game of risk takers! Either you make money or you loose money. Individual stock investing IS too risky; that is why Mutual Funds are more convenient for the, as you put it 'the middle class'.
With all due respect, it didn't have anything to do with Bush, Jr. because I have been investing ever since the Johnson Admin. all the way thru the start of the Obama Admin. The fact is that the Frank/Dodd legislation (both Democrats) screwed things up with the banking industry (including Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac); it wasn't Bush Jr. What Bush and others were trying to encourage was for Americans to have a piece of the American Dream: home ownership!!
I am using home ownership as an analogy to stock ownership. You cannot have a profitable reward without incurring a certain level of risk taking. That is capitalism; that is what created this great country ever since the founding countrymen who put their lives, wealth, and 'hard work' to the task.
05/26/2012
In all honesty, if I were to buy stocks, it wouldn't be with Facebook. The best time would have been when they hit it big but, of course that option wasn't available.
05/26/2012
I mean it'll be profitable, at least for a while. How long is the question. Quite dangerous really.
05/27/2012
I'd rather buy toys
05/27/2012
I personally don't see this popping like they hoped for.
05/27/2012
facebook is only going get bigger
05/27/2012
love fb
05/27/2012