it was a big scam, and I stayed as far away from it as I could.
Is FACEBOOK a Buy or a Sell?
05/28/2012
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Thank you!!
Originally posted by
pixxie87
facebook is only going get bigger
05/29/2012
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Why are you thanking them? Facebook is on a very limited platform here - they make revenue by selling ads. And as many financial wizards have pointed out, people eventually ignore ads and stop clicking on them. As a business, outside of having an actual facebook page you keep updated regularly, the ads you buy are worthless. It won't take long before everyone figures that out and then what? Where's the money going to come from?
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
Thank you!!
Besides, Facebook - just like Yahoo, LiveJournal, and many others before it - will be outdated at some point and a new platform will take over.
05/29/2012
To me FB is just a place where I can catch up with old friends. see pictures and talk to people i once knew or know well... isn't that what FB was Main streamed for?
05/29/2012
Speaking of Facebook... *clicks out*
05/29/2012
amusing comic by the oatmeal suggesting where FB is heading and it's not pretty (scroll down a bit).
link
link
05/29/2012
rather spend my money elsewhere
05/29/2012
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There was no computerized microtrading in Johnson's day! Only huge mega conglomerates have the ability to computer microtrade. Not to mention the disparity between CEO salaries and worker salary's, which became disgustingly more disparate, yes, during the Bush Jr. Administration. Bush didn't invent owning a house, and the problems were LENDERS telling people lies, not just Fannie May and Freddie Mac.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
What some people cannot appreciate is that when you INVEST in stocks OR lets say real estate, it is all about risk taking. Most people forget to realize that the price of a house goes up AND down. Hard to believe!!! There is NO guarantee that an
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What some people cannot appreciate is that when you INVEST in stocks OR lets say real estate, it is all about risk taking. Most people forget to realize that the price of a house goes up AND down. Hard to believe!!! There is NO guarantee that an investment in a HOME would make you money. That kind of thinking is naive. It has nothing to do with a bank issuing mortgages either; IT was everything to do with a 'purchaser' putting NOTHING down as a downpayment. The prospective owner had NO 'skin in the game' in his home purchase. Thus thru the years, it was taken for granted that a home always went UP in price (value). Well, a reality check of that day has now arrived.
The stock market is a game of risk takers! Either you make money or you loose money. Individual stock investing IS too risky; that is why Mutual Funds are more convenient for the, as you put it 'the middle class'.
With all due respect, it didn't have anything to do with Bush, Jr. because I have been investing ever since the Johnson Admin. all the way thru the start of the Obama Admin. The fact is that the Frank/Dodd legislation (both Democrats) screwed things up with the banking industry (including Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac); it wasn't Bush Jr. What Bush and others were trying to encourage was for Americans to have a piece of the American Dream: home ownership!!
I am using home ownership as an analogy to stock ownership. You cannot have a profitable reward without incurring a certain level of risk taking. That is capitalism; that is what created this great country ever since the founding countrymen who put their lives, wealth, and 'hard work' to the task. less
The stock market is a game of risk takers! Either you make money or you loose money. Individual stock investing IS too risky; that is why Mutual Funds are more convenient for the, as you put it 'the middle class'.
With all due respect, it didn't have anything to do with Bush, Jr. because I have been investing ever since the Johnson Admin. all the way thru the start of the Obama Admin. The fact is that the Frank/Dodd legislation (both Democrats) screwed things up with the banking industry (including Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac); it wasn't Bush Jr. What Bush and others were trying to encourage was for Americans to have a piece of the American Dream: home ownership!!
I am using home ownership as an analogy to stock ownership. You cannot have a profitable reward without incurring a certain level of risk taking. That is capitalism; that is what created this great country ever since the founding countrymen who put their lives, wealth, and 'hard work' to the task. less
Aren't you "Middle Class" or don't you believe in the concept?
Plus, what you're saying is, "The Stock Market isn't FOR the Little People, so stay the hell out of our money pool like a nice little peon. Maybe you get to pay a mortgage on a house for the rest of your life. Why can't you Little People just shut up and be happy with that, and leave the rest of the money to US?" That's Classist Bullshit.
And why is it only called "Class Warfare" when the Middle Class and the Poor fight back?
Bush fucked our economy and our country. It's evident to anyone who didn't have a hand it and/or didn't make a bundle in the rape and near murder of the Middle Class during the Bush Jr Administration.
05/29/2012
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You're going to hate me for this, but...
Originally posted by
P'Gell
There was no computerized microtrading in Johnson's day! Only huge mega conglomerates have the ability to computer microtrade. Not to mention the disparity between CEO salaries and worker salary's, which became disgustingly more disparate,
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There was no computerized microtrading in Johnson's day! Only huge mega conglomerates have the ability to computer microtrade. Not to mention the disparity between CEO salaries and worker salary's, which became disgustingly more disparate, yes, during the Bush Jr. Administration. Bush didn't invent owning a house, and the problems were LENDERS telling people lies, not just Fannie May and Freddie Mac.
Aren't you "Middle Class" or don't you believe in the concept?
Plus, what you're saying is, "The Stock Market isn't FOR the Little People, so stay the hell out of our money pool like a nice little peon. Maybe you get to pay a mortgage on a house for the rest of your life. Why can't you Little People just shut up and be happy with that, and leave the rest of the money to US?" That's Classist Bullshit.
And why is it only called "Class Warfare" when the Middle Class and the Poor fight back?
Bush fucked our economy and our country. It's evident to anyone who didn't have a hand it and/or didn't make a bundle in the rape and near murder of the Middle Class during the Bush Jr Administration. less
Aren't you "Middle Class" or don't you believe in the concept?
Plus, what you're saying is, "The Stock Market isn't FOR the Little People, so stay the hell out of our money pool like a nice little peon. Maybe you get to pay a mortgage on a house for the rest of your life. Why can't you Little People just shut up and be happy with that, and leave the rest of the money to US?" That's Classist Bullshit.
And why is it only called "Class Warfare" when the Middle Class and the Poor fight back?
Bush fucked our economy and our country. It's evident to anyone who didn't have a hand it and/or didn't make a bundle in the rape and near murder of the Middle Class during the Bush Jr Administration. less
When W's reign was finally over, I was one of the happiest people alive. However, it is unfair to place complete blame on him/his administration. A lot of people — some of them with good intentions — loosed this economic monster on the world.
Bill Clinton — who I love — may have been the grand-daddy of it all:
"Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods."
There is a very interesting list over at Time magazine:
25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis
05/30/2012
Let's keep this discussion calm and focused on the topic at hand, which is whether or not Facebook is a buy or sell.
If you would like to discuss the politics behind why Facebook is a buy or sell, please do so calmly and without putting words into other people's mouths.
Friendly debate is always welcomed at Edenfantasys, however using your personal opinions as swords is not. Thank you!
If you would like to discuss the politics behind why Facebook is a buy or sell, please do so calmly and without putting words into other people's mouths.
Friendly debate is always welcomed at Edenfantasys, however using your personal opinions as swords is not. Thank you!
05/31/2012
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OMG I love The Oatmeal!! You rock for linking to such an awesome comic! LMAO at "You've changed, internet. It's like I don't even know you anymore." Ain't that the truth!?
Originally posted by
T&A1987
amusing comic by the oatmeal suggesting where FB is heading and it's not pretty (scroll down a bit).
link
link
05/31/2012
still love facebook!
05/31/2012
Today, Facebook was down like its stock.
05/31/2012
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If I was the paranoid type I'd say someone or something had Zuckerburg in their crosshairs. Instead I will just .
Originally posted by
dv8
Today, Facebook was down like its stock.
05/31/2012
FB... what a con!
05/31/2012
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Thanks! I think there will be more people who will share your thoughts!
Originally posted by
breebree
love fb
06/01/2012
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There are those who "drink the cool aid" and will NEVER see the light! Capitalism is capitalism (which founded this country [read your history]). If this county ever becomes socialist, I will lay off all my employees, sell my business, and retire! How does that grab ya!?
Originally posted by
P'Gell
There was no computerized microtrading in Johnson's day! Only huge mega conglomerates have the ability to computer microtrade. Not to mention the disparity between CEO salaries and worker salary's, which became disgustingly more disparate,
...
more
There was no computerized microtrading in Johnson's day! Only huge mega conglomerates have the ability to computer microtrade. Not to mention the disparity between CEO salaries and worker salary's, which became disgustingly more disparate, yes, during the Bush Jr. Administration. Bush didn't invent owning a house, and the problems were LENDERS telling people lies, not just Fannie May and Freddie Mac.
Aren't you "Middle Class" or don't you believe in the concept?
Plus, what you're saying is, "The Stock Market isn't FOR the Little People, so stay the hell out of our money pool like a nice little peon. Maybe you get to pay a mortgage on a house for the rest of your life. Why can't you Little People just shut up and be happy with that, and leave the rest of the money to US?" That's Classist Bullshit.
And why is it only called "Class Warfare" when the Middle Class and the Poor fight back?
Bush fucked our economy and our country. It's evident to anyone who didn't have a hand it and/or didn't make a bundle in the rape and near murder of the Middle Class during the Bush Jr Administration. less
Aren't you "Middle Class" or don't you believe in the concept?
Plus, what you're saying is, "The Stock Market isn't FOR the Little People, so stay the hell out of our money pool like a nice little peon. Maybe you get to pay a mortgage on a house for the rest of your life. Why can't you Little People just shut up and be happy with that, and leave the rest of the money to US?" That's Classist Bullshit.
And why is it only called "Class Warfare" when the Middle Class and the Poor fight back?
Bush fucked our economy and our country. It's evident to anyone who didn't have a hand it and/or didn't make a bundle in the rape and near murder of the Middle Class during the Bush Jr Administration. less
06/01/2012
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With Facebook going public, they (the company) received about $19 billion dollars to be used to buy other earning generating companies, to become part of the Facebook organization. That is usually how this works out. I think, unlike Yahoo, Facebook will not make the same mistake and use the cash infusion to buy other companies who will generate cash-flow and maybe cross-sell products with their customer base of over 900 million members.
Originally posted by
Ansley
Why are you thanking them? Facebook is on a very limited platform here - they make revenue by selling ads. And as many financial wizards have pointed out, people eventually ignore ads and stop clicking on them. As a business, outside of having an
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more
Why are you thanking them? Facebook is on a very limited platform here - they make revenue by selling ads. And as many financial wizards have pointed out, people eventually ignore ads and stop clicking on them. As a business, outside of having an actual facebook page you keep updated regularly, the ads you buy are worthless. It won't take long before everyone figures that out and then what? Where's the money going to come from?
Besides, Facebook - just like Yahoo, LiveJournal, and many others before it - will be outdated at some point and a new platform will take over. less
Besides, Facebook - just like Yahoo, LiveJournal, and many others before it - will be outdated at some point and a new platform will take over. less
06/01/2012
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There's that advertising issue again...how many ads do you click on, on Facebook? Be honest.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
With Facebook going public, they (the company) received about $19 billion dollars to be used to buy other earning generating companies, to become part of the Facebook organization. That is usually how this works out. I think, unlike Yahoo, Facebook
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more
With Facebook going public, they (the company) received about $19 billion dollars to be used to buy other earning generating companies, to become part of the Facebook organization. That is usually how this works out. I think, unlike Yahoo, Facebook will not make the same mistake and use the cash infusion to buy other companies who will generate cash-flow and maybe cross-sell products with their customer base of over 900 million members.
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06/01/2012
Nope, still want nothing to do with Facebook...
06/01/2012
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Smart cookie. I'm trying to divorce FB, my friends keep pullin' me back in.
Originally posted by
Gone (LD29)
Nope, still want nothing to do with Facebook...
06/01/2012
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Excellent point! Personally, I use an ad-blocker, so I don't even SEE the ads. Therefore, I click on ZERO. LOL! Even if I didn't use an ad-blocker, I wouldn't click on any. But all of that is really moot anyhow because I jumped the Facebook ship a while ago. Couldn't stand all the BS I had to endure just to "socialize."
Originally posted by
Ansley
There's that advertising issue again...how many ads do you click on, on Facebook? Be honest.
06/02/2012
Sex toy!
06/02/2012
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sometimes i find their ads so odd I am less likely to buy their products. other times I don't know why they put the ads on my wall (I don't see myself needing wedding services anytime soon).
Originally posted by
Ansley
There's that advertising issue again...how many ads do you click on, on Facebook? Be honest.
06/02/2012
Went down quite a bit. Might be time to buy soon and it'll eventually keep on going up.
06/03/2012
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I just learned that Facebook will be offering over 300 new APPS linked to their website. I see this as one more step in cross-linking all their resourses to attract attention to maybe advertisers and other businesses. They do have $19 billion to invest in other revenue generating companies.
Originally posted by
Ansley
There's that advertising issue again...how many ads do you click on, on Facebook? Be honest.
I think the stock is now down in the mid-20's! Only time will tell!
06/08/2012
Stock hit a low of $26 or so last week; it is now in the $31 range again! Going up?
06/22/2012
i love fb but i will not pay for it
06/22/2012
Neither, I'd rather buy toys. lol
06/22/2012
I voted buy toys. facebook is a great form of communication but I'm not investing in it.
06/22/2012