Are Pets Happy?

Contributor: Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Inker
my wife's poodle would go crazy if he was supposed to be wild! He doesnt even like going outside when he has to! He definietly lieks sleeping under the covers too, lol.
High five!
01/09/2012
Contributor: EnChAnTiNg EnChAnTiNg
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Originally posted by In Between Soliloquies
Do people think pets are happy living domesticated lives, or do you think they don't really care either way?

Personally, I think if they had the chance to live "naturally" without interference, they'd probably prefer it, as ... more
I think it depends what type of animal we are talking about. I believe pets such as horses, would prefer to live wild, with no human interferance. I believe pets like dogs and cats would prefer to have human interaction. Majority of dogs love to please, and I think it is just in their nature to look to a human (when there is no presence of a canine pack) as their pack leader. But I completely understand what you mean by wondering if they would be more content without humans.
01/09/2012
Contributor: hyacinthgirl hyacinthgirl
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Originally posted by In Between Soliloquies

YES! I think that "overpopulation" is a manmade concept and that it is measured by our own standards of normalcy. It ignores the fact that humans themselves have created imbalanced ecosystems, which ultimately allow invasive species to ... more
So because humans have created imbalanced ecosystems, we should allow feral domesticated animals to imbalance it even more? Sorry, that's some really backwards logic. That's like saying we shouldn't do anything about the rabbits in Australia, which are wiping out native species at an alarming rate, because it's our fault there aren't enough native predators to get rid of them.


There's also a lot of anthropomorphization of animal sexuality. Most animals have sex for reproduction, not for pleasure. I've heard horse owners wanting their mares to mate so as "not to deprive her of the experience". Cue horror when realizing that horse mating is a short, violent act that does not appear to produce much pleasure for the mare. Cats do not have sex for pleasure, otherwise they would have sex with females not in estrus. Dolphins and apes have sex for pleasure, but I've never heard of anyone keeping a singular pet of one of them.

Also, for animals looking out the window, my cat who was brought inside after living outside looks out the window. He went outside once after being brought in, and was back in a day, begging to be let back in. He will now ignore the door completely, even if it's wide open. My dad's cat, who loves looking out the windows, went out onto the porch once and accidentally got shut out. She was desperately clawing at the door within moments and bolted back inside.
01/09/2012
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by hyacinthgirl
So because humans have created imbalanced ecosystems, we should allow feral domesticated animals to imbalance it even more? Sorry, that's some really backwards logic. That's like saying we shouldn't do anything about the rabbits in ... more
Hehe my cat's similar. She's lived indoors her whole life, and even though she enjoys watching birds out the window, she avoids open doors like the plague. She gets plenty of exercise indoors, and has never shown a desire to head outside even for a moment.

My dad accidentally shut her in the garage once, and our big outer garage door has a rather large hole in it (long story) so she had a perfectly good opportunity to leave without us knowing. As soon as we realized where she was and went to go get her, she bolted back into the house, tail fluffed out in fear.

I think it's safe to say she likes it just fine inside.
01/09/2012
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by In Between Soliloquies
Hah, that's adorable! Never let it be said that he plays favorites!
He does play favorites, but it depends on what his little brain is thinking at that moment. When he wants to play, go for a walk, or go for a ride, then dad's his favorite. If he hears firework or loud noises and is scare, he'll come to me. He sees himself more as an equal to my son, so he'll play with him, but does not expect anything much from my son.
01/09/2012
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by Rossie
He does play favorites, but it depends on what his little brain is thinking at that moment. When he wants to play, go for a walk, or go for a ride, then dad's his favorite. If he hears firework or loud noises and is scare, he'll come to me. ... more
D'awww! You're like his security blanket!
01/09/2012
Contributor: Jaimes Jaimes
I think my pets are very happy. They have a safe environment, all their survival needs met, plus two people who show them love and affection every single day. I know they are certainly happier with me than they were when they were rescued. All three would be euthanized had they not been rescued; one in particular put down after life as a bait dog in a fighting ring.

In general, I think most pets who are in good home environments are very happy, rather than feeling a constant need to return to the wild. They figured out very quickly that belly rubs and cheek kisses are awesome.
01/10/2012
Contributor: ap-the-aper ap-the-aper
I think my cat is pretty content with the system that's in place: he gets to sleep on my bed, eat and drink at his leisure, be warm and protected when it's precipitating out, and he can come and go as he pleases. To show his appreciation, he often brings me decapitated mice... which I wish he wouldn't do, but, you know, it's the thought that counts?
01/13/2012
Contributor: Chirple Chirple
Domesticated animals should just not be considered on the same level as "wild" animals. If one wanted truly to help the environment through them in some way, they would let the species die out instead of creating more non-wild animals.

For instance, think about cows or sheep. While is it not humane to house them in cages they cannot even walk in, it is also not humane to simply turn them out into the wild. They are not wild animals, and again, it would be more humane to let them die out than just letting them loose.


While I care for my animals very much, it is a mistake to think of them as small furry people in regards to their needs and drives.

And, for the record, cats and other animals DO appreciate things like beds, food and air-conditioning. They don't really care where the relief comes from, it's something that meets a need. Human beds meet a need of physical comfort. Food is food. Tolerable temperatures are necessary for ALL lifeforms on this planet. All animals, wild or not have temperature preferences - and on a very hot and humid day, and doesn't somehow not feel the temperature and humidity. Animals die due to heat, just like human animals.

Cats watch things out windows, they also watch TV. They curl up on heating vents, too, because they've figured out that's where warm comes from.
01/14/2012
Contributor: Moein Moein
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Originally posted by EnChAnTiNg
I think it depends what type of animal we are talking about. I believe pets such as horses, would prefer to live wild, with no human interferance. I believe pets like dogs and cats would prefer to have human interaction. Majority of dogs love to ... more
Yes, dogs and cats can live in towns because for long time they do that. But how about other animals that locked inside houses: Snakes, frogs, Birds, even lions and tigers, lizards ... etc. It is for some people bets that can be lived with us.

I think we like to control every thing, and we show our suporiority upon these poor animals. What does a snake do at home??

All animals must live free, if we want to feed them it is ok, but make them as prisinors and put them in cages, this called crawl actions and it is not related to mercy at all. We just want to show our power over these poor animals. And if these animals try to defend themselfs, what we do? We just kill them, do you remember about many dogs executed because they attacked humans? Poor animals,,
01/14/2012
Contributor: SassySam SassySam
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Originally posted by Rin (aka Nire)
It doesn't ignore the fact that it's a man-made problem. To the contrary, it embraces it. Domestic animals no longer fit into the natural world in the way that their ancestors did (they are invasive species by default anywhere but in human ... more
i agree
11/29/2012
Contributor: SassySam SassySam
I think they're happy, at least mine are.
11/29/2012
Contributor: KyotoAngel KyotoAngel
I can't speak for all pets...or even ours, but I'm fairly certain our K.C is far happier being with us than he would be in the wild.
It's probably because we coddled him (and still do a bit), but he's a pampered, spoiled little lap dog and loves it.

I'd say I'm wrong, but he actually howls and acts depressed when he isn't getting attention and has separation anxiety.
(I can't explain that one, we've never left him alone for more than a few hours and never would either, but he always acts like we're going to abandon him forever.)
11/29/2012
Contributor: GONE! GONE!
I think they are as happy as an animal can be when treated properly. I doubt any pet would be happy just set free in the wild after being raised and treated as a pet. They wouldn't know how to take care of themselves.
11/30/2012