So, my professor today decided to tell the class that if a person is into S and M they automatically want to go out, rape/murder/beat nearly to death women and men. Not only that, sadism and sexual sadism is back in the books again as being a "mental illness". What are your views on this?
S and M views.
02/11/2011
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Did you talk to him for a bit then whip out your cuffs and collar? If not, why not? LOL For heaven's sake liking pain doesn't make you mentally ill...neither does giving another person the pain they crave.
02/11/2011
What an ignorant human being (and probably a closet masochist). No, it does mean you're crazy. And people don't kill people because they're crazy, either. That's another topic in and of itself, though.
02/11/2011
I think the professor needs an education. That's just silly. Talk about opposite ends of a spectrum.
02/11/2011
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I meant, it does NOT mean you're crazy.
Originally posted by
PussyGalore
What an ignorant human being (and probably a closet masochist). No, it does mean you're crazy. And people don't kill people because they're crazy, either. That's another topic in and of itself, though.
02/11/2011
It is my opinion that those who bash the practice, know little or nothing about what they are bashing. I also think these people are the same ones who think because something is different than their way, it is bad, and must be destroyed. But I also feel that on a large scale, all levels of sexualtiy are greatly misunderstood, even in today's society.
02/11/2011
There is a correlation between watching violent or S&M pornography and sexual violence/murder. Practicing S&M doesn't always mean you're violent outside the bedroom or a murderer, but it might mean that you fit the profile better than somebody who isn't into that sort of thing.
What class was this for?
What class was this for?
02/12/2011
It was in my Early American Literature class. What the hell that had to do -anything- with American Literature, I don't know... But he goes off on random tangents.
02/12/2011
Perhaps your professor was looking for a play partner with that statement.
02/12/2011
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Well, at least we know he's an expert on human psychology. I guess we can take his word for it
Originally posted by
Mistress M.
It was in my Early American Literature class. What the hell that had to do -anything- with American Literature, I don't know... But he goes off on random tangents.
02/12/2011
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The correllation could be turned around to say that those prone to violent acts and murder are drawn to view S&M pornography. It could also be true that violent people are drawn to violent acts...and that people prone to violent acts deny themselves the outlet of concensual S&M and are therefore MORE apt to commit violent acts.
Originally posted by
That Guy
There is a correlation between watching violent or S&M pornography and sexual violence/murder. Practicing S&M doesn't always mean you're violent outside the bedroom or a murderer, but it might mean that you fit the profile better than
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There is a correlation between watching violent or S&M pornography and sexual violence/murder. Practicing S&M doesn't always mean you're violent outside the bedroom or a murderer, but it might mean that you fit the profile better than somebody who isn't into that sort of thing.
What class was this for? less
What class was this for? less
The problem is there is no way to predict human behavior with 100% accuracy.
02/12/2011
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He needs to be reminded that he is not a psychologist nor does he have adequate mal-practice insurance to be diagnosing mental illness in his students. In this State he can be fined and do jail time for doing just what he did...he isn't a medical professional he's a literature teacher.
Originally posted by
Mistress M.
It was in my Early American Literature class. What the hell that had to do -anything- with American Literature, I don't know... But he goes off on random tangents.
02/12/2011
I know. I was rather pissed about it. I think the whole thing stemmed from the fact I wore my new collar to class. Which, isn't unusual. Many people around my college campus wear them... And he gave me the strangest look when I walked into class too. It was over all, a very strange day.
02/12/2011
I think S&M is severely misunderstood; If you have the strength, I think it would be awesome to talk to your professor or even just send him some reading material on the subject. Too many people assume the most extreme, non-consensual interpretation of WIITWD.
02/12/2011
I'm probably going to. It is just particularly hard with professors, because they think they know everything... It's particularly irritating!
02/12/2011
You should ask him if he listens to country music, as far as statistics go, those who listen to country music have the highest likelihood of committing violent crimes that are not gang related. Also ask him if the fact that he is a man predisposes him to violent crime as well. That combo? He is almost GUARANTEED to run off and shoot somebody after a bar fight. (This is where you would notice my eyes rolling if we were speaking face to face.)
I think there is probably a lower likelihood of violent crimes being committed by the s&m community. Afterall, we HAVE outlets for our aggression.
Music, movies, video games, sexual tendencies... these do NOT lead to violent crimes. Sociopathy, psychosis, repeated abuse, and poverty are ALL linked directly with violent crimes.
I think there is probably a lower likelihood of violent crimes being committed by the s&m community. Afterall, we HAVE outlets for our aggression.
Music, movies, video games, sexual tendencies... these do NOT lead to violent crimes. Sociopathy, psychosis, repeated abuse, and poverty are ALL linked directly with violent crimes.
02/12/2011
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I couldn't agree with you more, Girl with Fire. Then again, that leads into another conversation about how people who are mentally ill aren't always guaranteed to be mindless killers! So many things interlinked...
Originally posted by
Emma (Girl With Fire)
You should ask him if he listens to country music, as far as statistics go, those who listen to country music have the highest likelihood of committing violent crimes that are not gang related. Also ask him if the fact that he is a man predisposes
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You should ask him if he listens to country music, as far as statistics go, those who listen to country music have the highest likelihood of committing violent crimes that are not gang related. Also ask him if the fact that he is a man predisposes him to violent crime as well. That combo? He is almost GUARANTEED to run off and shoot somebody after a bar fight. (This is where you would notice my eyes rolling if we were speaking face to face.)
I think there is probably a lower likelihood of violent crimes being committed by the s&m community. Afterall, we HAVE outlets for our aggression.
Music, movies, video games, sexual tendencies... these do NOT lead to violent crimes. Sociopathy, psychosis, repeated abuse, and poverty are ALL linked directly with violent crimes. less
I think there is probably a lower likelihood of violent crimes being committed by the s&m community. Afterall, we HAVE outlets for our aggression.
Music, movies, video games, sexual tendencies... these do NOT lead to violent crimes. Sociopathy, psychosis, repeated abuse, and poverty are ALL linked directly with violent crimes. less
02/13/2011
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Nope, it takes a combination of a lot of things to make a person willing to kill, and a whole other combination to make them a sadistic multiple murderer.
Originally posted by
Mistress M.
I couldn't agree with you more, Girl with Fire. Then again, that leads into another conversation about how people who are mentally ill aren't always guaranteed to be mindless killers! So many things interlinked...
Generalizing based on one factor or another, doesn't get anybody anywhere. Although for the most part, I think people should be on the lookout for psychopaths and sociopaths because they really don't give a fuck what happens to the people around them, this is what characterizes them as such to begin with. It generally results in a lot of dishonesty and good people getting really hurt.
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02/13/2011
What it comes down to is, people like to point fingers and hide from things they don't understand. Or if it is different from them.
02/13/2011
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You know, I find the best way to deal with that is to force them to confront reality.
Originally posted by
Mistress M.
What it comes down to is, people like to point fingers and hide from things they don't understand. Or if it is different from them.
02/13/2011
There is way to little education out there about S&M. Its kinda sad when people don't know and assume things about the lifestyle that are TOTALLY wrong. I am lucky I suppose to have some VERY supportive and open minded friends/family.
02/13/2011
I hate ill-educated professors, they just spread ignorance.
02/13/2011
They do. And it seems like the number of ill-educated professors just keeps growing!
02/13/2011
I do not think it is a mental illness but I am curious if some number of the people would have something biologically going on. I mean CEPA doesnt allow a person to feel pain. And another disorder (I don't remember the name) bring a person total and utter pleasure in place of pain.
I am sure not all are biologically suited for pain as it isnt really in line with drawin but I am saying some, maybe?
I am sure not all are biologically suited for pain as it isnt really in line with drawin but I am saying some, maybe?
02/13/2011
Maybe. To be realistic, you can't really decide why a person does what they do until you've talked to them about it.
02/14/2011
Sounds like he's doing a wonderful job.
02/14/2011
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It does,doesn't it?
Originally posted by
TheSinDoll
Sounds like he's doing a wonderful job.
02/14/2011
I don't think you can take such a broad label and apply it in that manner. I think whoever your professor is should think more carefully before making such a sweeping statement. Not to mention, people are individuals and are going to do/act how they do based on individual beliefs and experiences.
02/16/2011
They are, and it is really frustrating. But there isn't much that can be done about it.
02/16/2011
As an update one of our exam questions was to "talk about the evils revealed in Douglas's work about slavery" which was what our professor was discussing when he went on his rant about sexual sadism.. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to fail my exam because I talked about how I was offended by the sexual sadism discussion in class and how he put it so "absolutely" that every sexual sadist wants to kill/beat nearly to death/rape people, because while the acts of overseers in the time of slavery was extremely cruel and brutal, not every sexual sadist is like that. I told him he needed to learn both sides of a discussion before making his mind up about it.
02/18/2011