I have never heard of this, Im sure it can be scary losing it but after being married its not required but assumed that you will be having sex. I guess this is fine if both parties agreed that they can have a sexless marriage.
Is a married couple obligated to have sex?
10/04/2011
I have heard this is not uncommon due to lack of proper sex ed, religious upbringing, etc in america. Marriages can totally last without sex, it depends on the people involved.
10/05/2011
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I don't think it's "common." Can marriages last without sex? Probably. Will they be full and happy ones? I doubt it.
Originally posted by
Angelica
I have heard this is not uncommon due to lack of proper sex ed, religious upbringing, etc in america. Marriages can totally last without sex, it depends on the people involved.
Love is important, but it takes more than love to make a relationship work. Growing takes place during sexual play. I've known a few asexual couples (usually triggered by one person, while the other did heaven knows what on the side and they didn't talk about it) and they had what I saw as empty marriages. They were married in name, but had none of the connections, adhesion and bonding that a good healthy sexual relationship brings to two people who are in love.
Mileage.
10/05/2011
I think it is her right whether she has sex or not. BUT I think the partner has EVERY right to know ahead of a marriage or any other kind of committment that they don't want sex at all.
It would be wrong to marry someone without giving them a heads up. I know I wouldn't stay with someone if there was never any sex! Fair enough if ya been together enjoying sex and then there is an accident of some kind that prevents one from performing.
It would be wrong to marry someone without giving them a heads up. I know I wouldn't stay with someone if there was never any sex! Fair enough if ya been together enjoying sex and then there is an accident of some kind that prevents one from performing.
10/06/2011
technically, not having consummated the marriage is legitimate grounds for divorce- just saying.
10/06/2011
No one is obligated to have sex, but I think it definitely adds a lot to a relationship and it is extremely important for the marriage to work.
10/06/2011
I feel that if she wasn't ready for sex, what made her feel ready to be married?
10/06/2011
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I didn't mean to say it was common, I should have said its not rare, or as rare as one might assume. I have read a great many articles on the phenomena over the years. Like I said, it depends entirely upon the people involved in the union. Not all people have the same thoughts/desires/opini ons about what makes a fulfilled partnership.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
I don't think it's "common." Can marriages last without sex? Probably. Will they be full and happy ones? I doubt it.
Love is important, but it takes more than love to make a relationship work. Growing takes place during ... more
Love is important, but it takes more than love to make a relationship work. Growing takes place during ... more
I don't think it's "common." Can marriages last without sex? Probably. Will they be full and happy ones? I doubt it.
Love is important, but it takes more than love to make a relationship work. Growing takes place during sexual play. I've known a few asexual couples (usually triggered by one person, while the other did heaven knows what on the side and they didn't talk about it) and they had what I saw as empty marriages. They were married in name, but had none of the connections, adhesion and bonding that a good healthy sexual relationship brings to two people who are in love.
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Love is important, but it takes more than love to make a relationship work. Growing takes place during sexual play. I've known a few asexual couples (usually triggered by one person, while the other did heaven knows what on the side and they didn't talk about it) and they had what I saw as empty marriages. They were married in name, but had none of the connections, adhesion and bonding that a good healthy sexual relationship brings to two people who are in love.
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10/06/2011
A lot of marriages have it included in their vows that each partner will look out for the other's happiness and well being, and for most people, sex is part of that.
10/10/2011
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I agree - while I obviously don't know all the specifics of the situation, this just sounds like a very unhealthy marriage.
Originally posted by
wetone123
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard! After a year of marriage with no sex, I bet he's having sex elsewhere! I know I would!
10/10/2011
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My thoughts exactly.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
If she wasn't ready to have sex, she shouldn't have gotten married. I certainly wouldn't stay with a partner who wasn't going to have sex with me. That's one of the reasons I feel pre-marital sex is SO important. You need to know
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If she wasn't ready to have sex, she shouldn't have gotten married. I certainly wouldn't stay with a partner who wasn't going to have sex with me. That's one of the reasons I feel pre-marital sex is SO important. You need to know what you're getting yourself into.
I don't know if it's just "the wife's duty to please the husband" but is IS both partners duties to please the person they decided to spend their life with.
Yes, of course one can say no to specific acts or not want to have sex once in a while. But, a year and no sex? This woman's husband can actually get an annulment because the marriage was never consummated. It could go badly enough for her that she could actually be sued in a civil suit for misrepresenting herself before the marriage. I wouldn't blame him if he annulled the marriage and sued her. Really.
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I don't know if it's just "the wife's duty to please the husband" but is IS both partners duties to please the person they decided to spend their life with.
Yes, of course one can say no to specific acts or not want to have sex once in a while. But, a year and no sex? This woman's husband can actually get an annulment because the marriage was never consummated. It could go badly enough for her that she could actually be sued in a civil suit for misrepresenting herself before the marriage. I wouldn't blame him if he annulled the marriage and sued her. Really.
But, again, if you buy a car without a test drive, you have a good chance of getting a lemon. less
10/14/2011
This isn't something you can generalize. Can a marriage be happy without sex? Well, doesn't that depends on the people involved? But what I absolutely know is that no one is ever obligated to have sex with anyone, under any circumstances. Full stop.
10/14/2011
idk how this can happen.
10/17/2011
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I agree with this full heartedly!
Originally posted by
carenautilus
This isn't something you can generalize. Can a marriage be happy without sex? Well, doesn't that depends on the people involved? But what I absolutely know is that no one is ever obligated to have sex with anyone, under any circumstances.
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This isn't something you can generalize. Can a marriage be happy without sex? Well, doesn't that depends on the people involved? But what I absolutely know is that no one is ever obligated to have sex with anyone, under any circumstances. Full stop.
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10/17/2011
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There most certainly IS a sex police.
Originally posted by
indiglo
^^^^ THIS!!!
If they're both happy, no one should butt in and judge what they're doing. Even if they aren't happy, it's their business to take care of the situation. While sex is necessary in a relationship for many of us, ... more
If they're both happy, no one should butt in and judge what they're doing. Even if they aren't happy, it's their business to take care of the situation. While sex is necessary in a relationship for many of us, ... more
^^^^ THIS!!!
If they're both happy, no one should butt in and judge what they're doing. Even if they aren't happy, it's their business to take care of the situation. While sex is necessary in a relationship for many of us, not everyone is wired the same way. There are people who are asexual, and they don't need a psychiatrist or a counselor.
Would that kind of a marriage work for me? Probably not, no. But is it ok to be married and not have sex? Yes. There are no sex police, and people can do whatever they please in their own homes and relationships.
I do take sex very seriously in my relationship, and I very much feel like I am supposed to care for my man's sexual needs, as he should care for mine. But I do not think everyone must feel the same way I do or something is wrong with them. less
If they're both happy, no one should butt in and judge what they're doing. Even if they aren't happy, it's their business to take care of the situation. While sex is necessary in a relationship for many of us, not everyone is wired the same way. There are people who are asexual, and they don't need a psychiatrist or a counselor.
Would that kind of a marriage work for me? Probably not, no. But is it ok to be married and not have sex? Yes. There are no sex police, and people can do whatever they please in their own homes and relationships.
I do take sex very seriously in my relationship, and I very much feel like I am supposed to care for my man's sexual needs, as he should care for mine. But I do not think everyone must feel the same way I do or something is wrong with them. less
If that man, who's wife is not having sex with him, starts having sex with another woman she can divorce him and take him to the cleaners. He'll have her taking 1/2 his paycheck forever.
It's monogamy, not celibacy.
Now, if they are happy that way then of course it's awesome. Love is love is love.
But if society is going to mandate monogamy or ELSE PAY UP, then the poor guy (if he wants) at least deserves monogamy.
10/23/2011
there's so many people out there who are just like this, but we never hear of them.
12/01/2011
I actually spent a ton of time in an asexual community before joining Eden. For those of you who aren't familiar, an asexual is someone who doesn't experience sexual attraction, and usually doesn't desire sex as a result of it. I'm not sure if that's what's going on here, but it sounds like a familiar story, given my experience in that community. It could be a lot of other things too - repulsion, sex phobia, low libido, etc.
I voted:
No, it is no one's duty to have sex if they feel uncomfortable doing so.
A marriage can totally last without sex. Love is all that matters.
I think that it should be a decision they both make together, maybe with a marriage counselor or someone the trust.
It's a really personal thing. Sex isn't critical in every relationship. A common thing that I saw spending time in the asexual community were asexual/sexual relationships, which can work with a compromise, but rarely work without it.
Basically - if both parties are okay with not having sex, it's not anyone's business to judge them for it. It's not necessary. If one of them wants it but the other is unwilling to compromise altogether (ie, no sex acts at all), I see problems in the future, just knowing what I saw in the asexual community.
I voted:
No, it is no one's duty to have sex if they feel uncomfortable doing so.
A marriage can totally last without sex. Love is all that matters.
I think that it should be a decision they both make together, maybe with a marriage counselor or someone the trust.
It's a really personal thing. Sex isn't critical in every relationship. A common thing that I saw spending time in the asexual community were asexual/sexual relationships, which can work with a compromise, but rarely work without it.
Basically - if both parties are okay with not having sex, it's not anyone's business to judge them for it. It's not necessary. If one of them wants it but the other is unwilling to compromise altogether (ie, no sex acts at all), I see problems in the future, just knowing what I saw in the asexual community.
12/01/2011
What were the couple doing before marriage? It seems to me there was a total lack of communication! The subject had to come up. If there had been communication involved then both parties would have avoided such a situation. The vows they took at the time of the wedding would imply a joining of two people in body and sole until death. Like a contract.
It could be argued, as well as observed, that as marriages mature, sex does not play such an important role in the relationship. It is the love, the bond, that is built over the years and perhaps even decades that endure. A "LOVE" that meets the test of time. I see this when observing older couples, they hold hands, put an arm over their shoulder, or simply doing the smallest of gestures. It is these acts that implies "I still love you."
It could be argued, as well as observed, that as marriages mature, sex does not play such an important role in the relationship. It is the love, the bond, that is built over the years and perhaps even decades that endure. A "LOVE" that meets the test of time. I see this when observing older couples, they hold hands, put an arm over their shoulder, or simply doing the smallest of gestures. It is these acts that implies "I still love you."
12/01/2011
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really depends sex is an important part of mostr elationships that have had it can a marrgae last with out it sure
Originally posted by
ToyGurl
I was at a client's home the other day, and as I was setting up my presentation, she was in the kitchen on the phone. I didn't mean to listen in, but I couldn't help up overhear. She was talking to someone she knows well (probably a best
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I was at a client's home the other day, and as I was setting up my presentation, she was in the kitchen on the phone. I didn't mean to listen in, but I couldn't help up overhear. She was talking to someone she knows well (probably a best friend) and complaining because she said she wasn't ready to give her virginity to her husband. I could hear the girl on the other line literally yell "You're married! You've been married for almost a year!" and my client kept insisting that just because someone is married, it doesn't entitle them to any type of duty to have sex to please the other partner.
Can anyone explain their feelings on this topic? Do you feel that sex is a duty of the man to the wife? (I'm not talking about people who are dating, or just casually having sex. I mean MARRIAGE ONLY). This is such an interesting topic, because ever since I was of age to talk about sex, I was told that it was my duty as a wife to please my husband. Of course it's no issue for me... I love making love. But I couldn't help but put myself in her shoes and wonder what it's like feeling that way. What would keep someone from having sex with their husband/wife! less
Can anyone explain their feelings on this topic? Do you feel that sex is a duty of the man to the wife? (I'm not talking about people who are dating, or just casually having sex. I mean MARRIAGE ONLY). This is such an interesting topic, because ever since I was of age to talk about sex, I was told that it was my duty as a wife to please my husband. Of course it's no issue for me... I love making love. But I couldn't help but put myself in her shoes and wonder what it's like feeling that way. What would keep someone from having sex with their husband/wife! less
12/01/2011
In this day and age, that is crazy to hear about. Most people lose their virginity before they are even of age nowadays, let alone how few wait till after marriage.
I think what matters is that both people are happy, but I imagine if she is talking it over with her friend on the phone - then something is off. Either she is unsure on some level if she wants to or not, or her husband really wants it. I think it is not right for her to deny his needs outright, and it is something they should discuss or possibly try marriage counseling on.
I think what matters is that both people are happy, but I imagine if she is talking it over with her friend on the phone - then something is off. Either she is unsure on some level if she wants to or not, or her husband really wants it. I think it is not right for her to deny his needs outright, and it is something they should discuss or possibly try marriage counseling on.
12/01/2011
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Except sexless marriages tend to be most unhappy. I know lots of people that have been married and are absolutely miserable that they don't have sex. Statistics also support that most marriages need sex so that they can stay alive. And a lot of people don't stop having sex with each other because they are so comfortable that sex isn't necessary.
Originally posted by
PassionateLover2
What were the couple doing before marriage? It seems to me there was a total lack of communication! The subject had to come up. If there had been communication involved then both parties would have avoided such a situation. The vows they took at the
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What were the couple doing before marriage? It seems to me there was a total lack of communication! The subject had to come up. If there had been communication involved then both parties would have avoided such a situation. The vows they took at the time of the wedding would imply a joining of two people in body and sole until death. Like a contract.
It could be argued, as well as observed, that as marriages mature, sex does not play such an important role in the relationship. It is the love, the bond, that is built over the years and perhaps even decades that endure. A "LOVE" that meets the test of time. I see this when observing older couples, they hold hands, put an arm over their shoulder, or simply doing the smallest of gestures. It is these acts that implies "I still love you." less
It could be argued, as well as observed, that as marriages mature, sex does not play such an important role in the relationship. It is the love, the bond, that is built over the years and perhaps even decades that endure. A "LOVE" that meets the test of time. I see this when observing older couples, they hold hands, put an arm over their shoulder, or simply doing the smallest of gestures. It is these acts that implies "I still love you." less
Also, how do you know that the elderly couple that is holding hands isn't having sex? Older people do have sex; it's just not something that's as publicized as younger people having sex.
I have no idea how that marriage would function. I already expressed my sentiments earlier in this post, but frankly, it's ridiculous. I understand that some people are asexual, but the tidbit of conversation you heard doesn't seem to sound like asexuality.
12/01/2011
In a relationship, it's your duty to meet your partner's sexual needs in whatever way fits your relationship and makes you both happy, with each partner compromising in a reasonable manner. GGG
12/01/2011
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What does that even mean...of age? Children as young as two years old begin exploring their bodies and find out what "feels good". "Of age" is an idea put forth, in my opinion, because adults use sex as a weapon.
Originally posted by
eeep
In this day and age, that is crazy to hear about. Most people lose their virginity before they are even of age nowadays, let alone how few wait till after marriage.
I think what matters is that both people are happy, but I imagine if she is ... more
I think what matters is that both people are happy, but I imagine if she is ... more
In this day and age, that is crazy to hear about. Most people lose their virginity before they are even of age nowadays, let alone how few wait till after marriage.
I think what matters is that both people are happy, but I imagine if she is talking it over with her friend on the phone - then something is off. Either she is unsure on some level if she wants to or not, or her husband really wants it. I think it is not right for her to deny his needs outright, and it is something they should discuss or possibly try marriage counseling on. less
I think what matters is that both people are happy, but I imagine if she is talking it over with her friend on the phone - then something is off. Either she is unsure on some level if she wants to or not, or her husband really wants it. I think it is not right for her to deny his needs outright, and it is something they should discuss or possibly try marriage counseling on. less
If sex remained on a base level and it was just something you did to make you feel good and there weren't a hundred types of diseases and infections or risk of pregnancy in play, I doubt there would be an "age of consent" law in the first place.
12/01/2011
I think it's fine for a marriage to not include sex if it's something agreed upon within the couple. Thus, asexuals have every right to be married and conduct romantic relationships. However, if you're an asexual, you have an obligation to let the person you're with know about that before hand. Do not expect someone who WANTS a sexual relationship to understand or accommodate your disinterest in sex, especially if you are not willing to accommodate their interest in sex. You are sexually incompatible, you will always be. If that's okay with both members of the couple, fine. If it's not, for the love of god please just find someone else who you are compatible with.
In this case, It's not clear whether the person is asexual or just "not ready." If it's the later, I do think it's okay for this women to delay sex until she's ready, but I think she really needs to examine why she's having such mental and emotional hang ups about it. If it's just fear about being good or whatever, then bite the damn bullet and have some fun.
I personally wonder how you can be emotionally mature enough to get married but not emotionally mature enough to have sex. I do not understand why you would marry someone you didn't want to have a sexual relationship with if you were interested in having said sexual relationship. If the husband married her with the understanding that sex would be part of their relationship, he has, at this point, been misled and is potentially being denied something that most people consider a very important and intrinsic part of a mature, committed and loving relationship.
If the husband is fine with it, that's one thing. If he feels like he's been misled and is being basically neglected by his partner and doesn't understand what is going on and why she would have sex with him when they're married, that is a problem.
In this case, It's not clear whether the person is asexual or just "not ready." If it's the later, I do think it's okay for this women to delay sex until she's ready, but I think she really needs to examine why she's having such mental and emotional hang ups about it. If it's just fear about being good or whatever, then bite the damn bullet and have some fun.
I personally wonder how you can be emotionally mature enough to get married but not emotionally mature enough to have sex. I do not understand why you would marry someone you didn't want to have a sexual relationship with if you were interested in having said sexual relationship. If the husband married her with the understanding that sex would be part of their relationship, he has, at this point, been misled and is potentially being denied something that most people consider a very important and intrinsic part of a mature, committed and loving relationship.
If the husband is fine with it, that's one thing. If he feels like he's been misled and is being basically neglected by his partner and doesn't understand what is going on and why she would have sex with him when they're married, that is a problem.
12/01/2011
not having sex after marriage could be a sign of something else wrong in the relationship.
12/01/2011
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It seems that her marriage has more problems than just a lack of sex. A healthy marriage needs sex to some extent but I wonder if this woman is unhappy with this person and has plans to leave him.
Originally posted by
ToyGurl
I was at a client's home the other day, and as I was setting up my presentation, she was in the kitchen on the phone. I didn't mean to listen in, but I couldn't help up overhear. She was talking to someone she knows well (probably a best
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I was at a client's home the other day, and as I was setting up my presentation, she was in the kitchen on the phone. I didn't mean to listen in, but I couldn't help up overhear. She was talking to someone she knows well (probably a best friend) and complaining because she said she wasn't ready to give her virginity to her husband. I could hear the girl on the other line literally yell "You're married! You've been married for almost a year!" and my client kept insisting that just because someone is married, it doesn't entitle them to any type of duty to have sex to please the other partner.
Can anyone explain their feelings on this topic? Do you feel that sex is a duty of the man to the wife? (I'm not talking about people who are dating, or just casually having sex. I mean MARRIAGE ONLY). This is such an interesting topic, because ever since I was of age to talk about sex, I was told that it was my duty as a wife to please my husband. Of course it's no issue for me... I love making love. But I couldn't help but put myself in her shoes and wonder what it's like feeling that way. What would keep someone from having sex with their husband/wife! less
Can anyone explain their feelings on this topic? Do you feel that sex is a duty of the man to the wife? (I'm not talking about people who are dating, or just casually having sex. I mean MARRIAGE ONLY). This is such an interesting topic, because ever since I was of age to talk about sex, I was told that it was my duty as a wife to please my husband. Of course it's no issue for me... I love making love. But I couldn't help but put myself in her shoes and wonder what it's like feeling that way. What would keep someone from having sex with their husband/wife! less
12/01/2011
i think sex is an important part of marriage, but i definitely do not think that any woman (or man) should feel obligated to have sex for the lone fact that they are married. i do think sex is a part of love though, and if you're married, then i'm sure you're in love (though there are always exceptions) - and with that being said, she should definitely consider the reasons as to why she is not having sex with her husband of one year. i think it's something that should most definitely be discussed between the two of them - and maybe even counselling of some kind. i find it odd... but no judgement.
12/01/2011
oh no that is crazy! i wouldnt have married her if i didnt have sex with her first lmao, that may sound bad but you gotta test it out first what happened if she sucked in bed and you had to deal with that for the rest of your life. i know you can teach someone but that is just not for me.
05/29/2012
It depends a lot on the individual marriage. Sex is an important part, and it has a lot of benefits to increasing intimacy. That said, it's a choice each of them should make, and they should use counseling if it's not working out
05/29/2012
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Wow! That's amazing. Even in most churches anymore they talk openly about sex among married couples, so I wonder what issues she may be dealing with.
Originally posted by
ToyGurl
I was at a client's home the other day, and as I was setting up my presentation, she was in the kitchen on the phone. I didn't mean to listen in, but I couldn't help up overhear. She was talking to someone she knows well (probably a best
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I was at a client's home the other day, and as I was setting up my presentation, she was in the kitchen on the phone. I didn't mean to listen in, but I couldn't help up overhear. She was talking to someone she knows well (probably a best friend) and complaining because she said she wasn't ready to give her virginity to her husband. I could hear the girl on the other line literally yell "You're married! You've been married for almost a year!" and my client kept insisting that just because someone is married, it doesn't entitle them to any type of duty to have sex to please the other partner.
Can anyone explain their feelings on this topic? Do you feel that sex is a duty of the man to the wife? (I'm not talking about people who are dating, or just casually having sex. I mean MARRIAGE ONLY). This is such an interesting topic, because ever since I was of age to talk about sex, I was told that it was my duty as a wife to please my husband. Of course it's no issue for me... I love making love. But I couldn't help but put myself in her shoes and wonder what it's like feeling that way. What would keep someone from having sex with their husband/wife! less
Can anyone explain their feelings on this topic? Do you feel that sex is a duty of the man to the wife? (I'm not talking about people who are dating, or just casually having sex. I mean MARRIAGE ONLY). This is such an interesting topic, because ever since I was of age to talk about sex, I was told that it was my duty as a wife to please my husband. Of course it's no issue for me... I love making love. But I couldn't help but put myself in her shoes and wonder what it's like feeling that way. What would keep someone from having sex with their husband/wife! less
05/29/2012