Verified reviews are reviews on products that have been sent to a reviewer FOR the honest review. This designation means EF has ALREADY verified that the reviewer did, in fact, receive THAT product and has used THAT product.

If you don't trust the reviews on a product buy it yourself and review it or here's an idea: get involved with the site and learn who does the most trustworthy reviews.
Why should we be penalized with less points and yet another rating system because YOU don't trust the community? Judging by the success of this program it would seem you are in the minority and this program is amazing just the way it is. less

The power of private messaging. Okay, so I understand now.

On the product page there's a place (the same place a lot of us go to say "Ooooh this looks fun" on new products) for comments where you can "rate" the toy 1-5. So I guess your question is: Does that get factored in to a toys' "Star" rating?

That is a very good question. That I do NOT have the answer to. Anybody!?! JR? Kristi?

So I suppose what you're suggesting is a place on the product page where people can fill out a short questionnaire and possibly write a comment or two about the product?

My fear with that suggestion is that it could take away from the reviewers who spend so much time and energy writing thorough reviews, if there's just a quick "Go-To" for people.

Although, technically there is, because the reviewer's rating on the product along with a couple of sentences (summary) is already available on the product page. So I don't know if this would be "too much."

BUT I understand your question and suggestion now. It's not a bad suggestion. I just think it's very similar to what's already available. But what do I know? I'm not an employee, so who knows what EF might like to do. less

Ok now I am so sure you didn't catch my words BBW..

Where did I say I don't trust verified reviewers (VRs)???

Again,
Verified reviewers are few copmared to actual buyers -as I guess-, for any product you may read 3-8 feedbacks by VRs. Other users also may wright their feedbacks and I can read them and notice the cons and pros by the previous users.

But how about the Rating?
It will be so dark for any one, because it is just a number out of 5 and I don't know how much of fact in this rating?
By rewarding the buyers with (points) EF can gather a large amount of infos about product from the buyers (Actual users). This is an answer for BBW comments for buyers feedbacks.

Top rated also a big question.

Ok it is just a suggestion that considers the advantages for both EF and future buyers.

Thanks all of you for sharing your views and opinions. less

danellejohns
Thanks, and no need for any apology, in fact I did a big mistake when didn't give a correct label for "other people reviews".


In summary I will re-write my suggestion:

There are 3 feedbacks in any product's page:
1st: Verified reviewers (VRs):
This could be read by pressing the "Read Reviews" tap under the product description. Here there is a "star rating" and "Written review"
link

2nd: Comments:
This is what BBW showed before, found at the bottom of the product's page. Here also there is "star rating" and "Written feedback". This what I ment by "others review".
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3rd: Rating:
This is a "star rating" found at the bottom of "Read reviews".
link

In my suggestion I don't talk about the 1st feedback which done by "Verified reviewers". All my idea is focus only on 2nd and 3rd feedbacks.

What is my suggestion?
EF makes an electronic Questionnaire for buyers only (actual non-VRs users) for each product they buy, this called "Real Users Feedback" or "Buyers feedback". Buyers rewarded by points for their feedback for this Questionnaire.


What makes this suggestion valuable?
Many reasons:
1- Future buyers will have a hundreds of feedbacks done by realy users 100%.

2- "Top Rated" statistics will have more credibility because it will based on real buyers (in addition to VRs).

3- Statistics will give the readers two different views: The VRs view and the buyers view.

4- EF will become has more tools for toys: Color, design, material, durability, ..etc experienced by large number of buyers EF knows 100% they buy and use these products.

I hope now every thing is clear now,

And again I am sory about my initial presentation that missed-identify these things clearly. less

Ok so I have read through this whole thread and am pretty sure I understand what you mean. What I think needs to be clarified for you is that just because the people who purchase a product are asked to rate r review it does NOT mean that they will do so. On the contrary, if people are asked to rate/review every product that they purchase, I think that
A: people would see purchasing from EF as a bit of a hassle, and B: it would be FAR more likely to result in less reliable reviews ie: people writing false reviews without using the toys, or just saying whatever comes to mind, leaving the important things out. As was mentioned earlier, it could also lead to people writing reviews after only one or two (possibly failed) attempts with the toy, and not really taking into account all of the good and bad aspects when rating. I think that this would be exacerbated by then rewarding those people with a large amount of points for doing this, especially if it were something as high as 50% of the product cost.

So as a result
A: EF would lose business due to buyers considering the process a hassle
B: They would also lose so much money on the products due to the 50% refund in points, that they would have to increase the prices on their products to compensate which would result in losing MORE buyers
C: As well as being bombarded with a TON of made up and unreliable reviews done solely for the points
D: The statistics you would be using would be negated by the fact that half of them were lies to begin with.

I would also like to clarify that when you see VERIFIED USER under a name, it implies that the person has created a full account and the information entered into it has been verified. Seeing VERIFIED REVIEW under an actual written review means that the person received the product for free or at a 30% discount in exchange for their review; in order to do this, they must be an advanced reviewer which means having graduated through the mentor program or having been voted to advanced by other contributors. We only receive 50 points for our reviews, which on it's own is not a huge incentive. I think that considering the work that goes into most of the reviews, you can pretty much trust that the reviewer has thoroughly tested the product and included as much information as a person could possibly ask for into their review. If you find a review that you believe to be false or plagiarized, you should definitely contact admin with that information. They will want to deal with the contributor over the matter, plagiarism is not something that is accepted by EF standards.

I hope that this answers some of your questions. less

Ok so I have read through this whole thread and am pretty sure I understand what you mean. What I think needs to be clarified for you is that just because the people who purchase a product are asked to rate r review it does NOT mean that they will do so. On the contrary, if people are asked to rate/review every product that they purchase, I think that
A: people would see purchasing from EF as a bit of a hassle, and B: it would be FAR more likely to result in less reliable reviews ie: people writing false reviews without using the toys, or just saying whatever comes to mind, leaving the important things out. As was mentioned earlier, it could also lead to people writing reviews after only one or two (possibly failed) attempts with the toy, and not really taking into account all of the good and bad aspects when rating. I think that this would be exacerbated by then rewarding those people with a large amount of points for doing this, especially if it were something as high as 50% of the product cost.

So as a result
A: EF would lose business due to buyers considering the process a hassle
B: They would also lose so much money on the products due to the 50% refund in points, that they would have to increase the prices on their products to compensate which would result in losing MORE buyers
C: As well as being bombarded with a TON of made up and unreliable reviews done solely for the points
D: The statistics you would be using would be negated by the fact that half of them were lies to begin with.

I would also like to clarify that when you see VERIFIED USER under a name, it implies that the person has created a full account and the information entered into it has been verified. Seeing VERIFIED REVIEW under an actual written review means that the person received the product for free or at a 30% discount in exchange for their review; in order to do this, they must be an advanced reviewer which means having graduated through the mentor program or having been voted to advanced by other contributors. We only receive 50 points for our reviews, which on it's own is not a huge incentive. I think that considering the work that goes into most of the reviews, you can pretty much trust that the reviewer has thoroughly tested the product and included as much information as a person could possibly ask for into their review. If you find a review that you believe to be false or plagiarized, you should definitely contact admin with that information. They will want to deal with the contributor over the matter, plagiarism is not something that is accepted by EF standards.

I hope that this answers some of your questions. less

This. So much this.

I think anyone who is interested in purchasing a toy will do so whether or not there is a 5-star rating or not, full reviews or not, or reliable user comments or not. As a consumer, it's important to read everything with a keen eye and careful thought because even in the cases of amazingly written reviews from the most trustworthy of sources, it's from the perspective of a single individual. You may not have the same expectations, the same sensitivities, the same material preferences, the same anatomy or measurements.

So it's impossible and ridiculous for a consumer to expect to read all reviews that pertain to their very individual and unique tastes. But the reviews done by hard-working reviewers on this site that are dedicated to honesty and accurate information are invaluable to at least deciding the odds that the product could work for you.

We must keep in mind that no business will ever be perfect or stop having room for improvement. But just in having a very connected and communicative community, a thorough review program (and a system to help find and erase fake or plagiarized ones), and a very involved administration is as close to perfect as I have ever seen a mere sex/adult store come to! less

Now Girl on fire
About this line you wrote:
((I would also like to clarify that when you see VERIFIED USER under a name, it implies that the person has created a full account and the information entered into it has been verified.))

Ok, that is a very good,
But again they are expert but a few for each product.

If EF add buyers feedback to expert feedback that will be more valueble for future buyers, so 2 opinions better than one. This is another Fact. less

I'd like to know what makes you think the amount of reviewers are few? There are approximately 3300 reviewers on this website. MANY of which have at least two or more reviews. Some of them are active, some of them are not, but there are A LOT of contributors here. And none of us are experts. All of us started out just like you did, purchasing products and giving our feedback.

I understand what you're trying to recommend. However, and I don't mean this in an offensive way, but perhaps you should take some time getting to know EF more intimately, maybe join the mentor program. We're all for feedback and suggestions here ("we" as in the community in whole) but I think you're underestimating how valued the written and video reviews actually are. less

I see your point. I'm slightly bothered by the fact that anyone can click the rating buttons also. I suspect that people rate products based on how they think a toy will be before they've even tried it.

What I've observed is that ratings from non-reviewers are counted as one vote. Ratings from reviews count as five votes. This must be EF's way to deal with the fact that non-review ratings could be less reliable. less

I think this thread has done my head in as I was confused on the first page but kept on reading anyways... but I think I got it.

Along these lines of the star ratings, is I'd personally like to see how many people have bought the item just a counter number type deal, for no other reason but because I like numbers and think it'd be neat to see. Then possibly a general rating of how well they enjoyed it out of say five stars.

There are some toys that I have purchased that I probably will not review, but because I have become active on the site, I'd think nothing of nipping into my Dashboard page and clicking on a star or two for something I have bought here.

Did that make sense? less

Ok now I am so sure you didn't catch my words BBW..

Where did I say I don't trust verified reviewers (VRs)???

Again,
Verified reviewers are few copmared to actual buyers -as I guess-, for any product you may read 3-8 feedbacks by VRs. Other users also may wright their feedbacks and I can read them and notice the cons and pros by the previous users.

But how about the Rating?
It will be so dark for any one, because it is just a number out of 5 and I don't know how much of fact in this rating?
By rewarding the buyers with (points) EF can gather a large amount of infos about product from the buyers (Actual users). This is an answer for BBW comments for buyers feedbacks.

Top rated also a big question.

Ok it is just a suggestion that considers the advantages for both EF and future buyers.

Thanks all of you for sharing your views and opinions. less

Ok now I am so sure you didn't catch my words BBW..

Where did I say I don't trust verified reviewers (VRs)???

Again,
Verified reviewers are few copmared to actual buyers -as I guess-, for any product you may read 3-8 feedbacks by VRs. Other users also may wright their feedbacks and I can read them and notice the cons and pros by the previous users.

But how about the Rating?
It will be so dark for any one, because it is just a number out of 5 and I don't know how much of fact in this rating?
By rewarding the buyers with (points) EF can gather a large amount of infos about product from the buyers (Actual users). This is an answer for BBW comments for buyers feedbacks.

Top rated also a big question.

Ok it is just a suggestion that considers the advantages for both EF and future buyers.

Thanks all of you for sharing your views and opinions. less