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Smokedawg
I don't have a problem with the fat acceptance movement. What I do have a problem with, and have seen more and more often, are people who are overweight who browbeat people who express a desire to change their eating and activity habits to reduce
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I don't have a problem with the fat acceptance movement. What I do have a problem with, and have seen more and more often, are people who are overweight who browbeat people who express a desire to change their eating and activity habits to reduce fat and/or become more fit. Some people in the fat acceptance movement are endorsing and encouraging people to remain obese, which is every bit as bad as thin people pressuring people to be (or remain) overly underweight/lean/thin.
Acceptance means accepting that people WILL sometimes want to change their body shape/level of fitness/etc. and have every right to do so (and not be judged as traitors for doing so).
"Acceptance" movements of most types eventually begin to breed fanatics who proselytize unhealthy and/or unpleasant things, and their numbers sometimes grow fast and they can exert a great deal of negative influence.
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This is an interesting phenomenon. I have not thought about it a lot, usually being within 15 lbs of my target weight, with a few exceptions that I worked on and was able to bring into control. (Still, sometimes those 15 lbs are stubborn, but I admit readily, I am not as active physically as I should be.)
I have seen people who come from families in which the matriarch or even the patriarch are overweight who have had to nearly cut off connections with their family to lose the weight. Their family members who were staying large did virtually everything in their power to sabotage their weight loss, from cooking their favorite foods to outright intimidation.
It never occurred to me, thought, that there could be fanatics in the "Acceptance" movement. I guess it can happen in any movement.
When I was trained as a nurse, "gland disorders" were presented as something that never, ever caused weight problems, we were told people used them as excuses not to exercise and to continue to overeat or eat unhealthy foods. (The funny part was, one of the nurses who taught this course was about 50 or 60 lbs overweight, an irony that did not escape us students.) I still vaccinate on the validity of those teachings. With the advent of barometric gastro procedures it is found that
everyone loses weight, unless they somehow re stretch the small pocket that then serves as their stomach. And, during these procedures, the stomachs of overweight people are universally found to be unusually large and stretched well beyond normal size. (Meaning at some point in that person's life, they ate enough to effect the size of the organ itself.)
If "glandular disorders" (or PCOS or other hormonal issues) were a true cause of weight problems, then people would
stay overweight when these procedures performed. They simply don't, unless they slowly restretch the stomach again.
I agree that hormones can certainly play a role. I have a
harder time staying in my target weight area when I am on the Pill, taking Depo Provera or using estrogens, but it's not impossible, only more difficult.
With the coming future of Universal Health Care (and I do think it's coming) we will all be directly paying for each other's health. Even more than we do now, or at least it will be more obvious that we do so. (We already do, based on hospital costs, medication costs, doctor office visits etc.)
I think there will be more pressure in the near future to stay healthier. Everyone from smokers, to the overweight, to those who over indulge in junk food to even those who don't to exercise to make more of an effort to help themselves and reduce health care costs for all.
When one realizes that there are health care problems that are completely out of one's control (I mentioned a friend of mine's little boy who had a heart transplant on an other thread) those who need health care resources for things completely out of their control, and those who simply need little or no health care dollars used for themselves will most likely continue to put pressure on health care problems for which people do have some modicum of control.
My guess: smoking, addictions and overweight will be the first targeted.