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Ansley

Hot off the presses! Check out this article Roland Hulme put down for us on Barack Obama's decision to openly announce he supports same-sex marriage.

Obama is quoted as saying:

“You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. It wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”

Roland examines the issue and responds with:

"Nevertheless, it now appears “Barry” has put his mouth where the money is, and even if your response to his announcement was “It’s about fucking time!”, there’s no denying that his support of same sex marriage will set a precedent for many elections to come.

What do you think? Should Obama have stepped up to support same sex marriage earlier? Or do you support his decision to only talk about the issue now?

Vote here and comment on the article to answer Roland's questions with your thoughts!

For a look back into the past, here's an article Rayne wrote a year ago on Obama's stance - Obama Still Evolving When It Comes to Gay Marriage

Answers (public voting - your screen name will appear in the results):

Is it too little, too late?

AvaLaRoux , MistressDandelion

Yes, he could have said something months ago, or even years ago.

Carrie Ann , Petite Valentine , Taylor Von , ghalik , Airen Wolf , Sammi , SweetXSurrender89 , gretsch1963 , eggiweg , Khanner , Silverdrop , Peggi , Beck , unfulfilled , Kitka , teachmetouchme , Mwar , AvaLaRoux , TheSinDoll , PinkiePie , Adriana Ravenlust , pootpootpoot , MistressDandelion , LoveBug721 , Jake'n'bake , quinceykay , EskaSarynn , .KK.

Does it matter? He said it didn't he?

Rayne Millaray , Ansley , Woman China , PeaceToTheMiddleEast , Terri69 , aliceinthehole , LaSchwartz , wrmbreze , ghalik , Badass , Feisty , LovesAPoet , Dragonfly Delta , ksparkles16 , Silverdrop , P'Gell , indiglo , DeliciousSurprise , teachmetouchme , Bullfroggy and Rose , Geekhyena , Mwar , AvaLaRoux , Tangerine , Sohotdinosaur , goodeatz , fallwillow , pootpootpoot , BG529 , Red Vinyl Kitty , Jake'n'bake , deltalima , Sex Positivity , quinceykay , TdotY , collifornia , aeterno

No, I think it's right on schedule.

Jayscape

Do you think this is just a bid for re-election?

Tork48309 , AvaLaRoux , MistressDandelion

Hells yeah!

Carrie Ann , Loriandhubby , Sammi , gretsch1963 , Peggi , unfulfilled , Bullfroggy and Rose , TheSinDoll , EskaSarynn

Probably, but who am I to judge his motives?

Badass , Jayscape , deltalima , .KK.

That remains to be seen.

mama2007 , PeaceToTheMiddleEast , aliceinthehole , ghalik , Feisty , Khanner , Silverdrop , Beck , Kitka , Mwar , PinkiePie , fallwillow

No, I think he honestly means it.

Rayne Millaray , Ansley , Woman China , Terri69 , LaSchwartz , wrmbreze , ghalik , Airen Wolf , LovesAPoet , eggiweg , Dragonfly Delta , ksparkles16 , Silverdrop , Femme Mystique , P'Gell , indiglo , DeliciousSurprise , teachmetouchme , Geekhyena , Mwar , Tangerine , Sohotdinosaur , goodeatz , pootpootpoot , BG529 , Red Vinyl Kitty , Jake'n'bake , deltalima , Sex Positivity , quinceykay , TdotY , collifornia , aeterno

Petite Valentine

Do you question his motives in general?

I question everyone's motives during election years, especially presidential elections.

Woman China , Carrie Ann , mama2007 , PeaceToTheMiddleEast , Petite Valentine , aliceinthehole , ghalik , Airen Wolf , Badass , Sammi , gretsch1963 , eggiweg , Dragonfly Delta , Khanner , ksparkles16 , Silverdrop , Peggi , Femme Mystique , Beck , indiglo , unfulfilled , Kitka , DeliciousSurprise , teachmetouchme , Bullfroggy and Rose , Geekhyena , Mwar , AvaLaRoux , TheSinDoll , PinkiePie , Sohotdinosaur , fallwillow , BG529 , deltalima , panda555 , collifornia , EskaSarynn

I think he's trying to find a good balance in the situation.

Rayne Millaray , Ansley , Woman China , Terri69 , wrmbreze , Airen Wolf , Badass , Feisty , LovesAPoet , Silverdrop , indiglo , Mwar , Tangerine , goodeatz , pootpootpoot , BG529 , Jake'n'bake , deltalima , Sex Positivity , quinceykay , TdotY , aeterno , .KK.

I definitely question his motives, election year or not.

mama2007 , Loriandhubby , Peggi , Mwar , AvaLaRoux , EskaSarynn

No, I think he has good intentions.

ghalik , Silverdrop , P'Gell , Jayscape , Mwar , pootpootpoot , Red Vinyl Kitty , Jake'n'bake , deltalima , TdotY

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beccawalton

You forgot something, I'll tell you in the comments!

mama2007

Total votes: 208 (64 voters)

Poll is closed

05/09/2012

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Carrie Ann

I'm the paranoid type.

05/09/2012

Ansley

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie Ann

I'm the paranoid type.

It's not paranoia if it's true!

05/09/2012

mama2007

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Originally posted by Ansley

Thankfully in the good state of North Carolina the law/bill passed that will KEEP a marriage in NC between 1 man and 1 woman! I'm against gay marriage in case you don't know that already. i in no way support it but im also not arguing, so thats the end of that.

Obama was weird with bad decisions before he said that so what else is new? new president here we come! im sure he wont make the cut

05/09/2012

Terri69

I'm just glad he finally made his position clear.

05/09/2012

Woman China

I tossed this comment over at SexIs....

“You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. It wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”

I don't know if it is convenient that he brought it up now or not. I choose to look at this as the "victory" it is though. And no matter when it came it IS a step in the right direction I think.

If you are optimistic about what the President has said that is great because it could just be, before he looked at his daughters and how they see these parents of friends... he thought that maybe the country was not ready for a "change".

But what he has said has been a rationale point for years. If politicians are looking look out for today's youth and their future, why the heck can they not actually see what the youth of today thinks?

So no matter what the reasoning is I say it is a step in the right direction because he actually looked at the youth of the future and saw how they see the world.

05/09/2012

Petite Valentine

I think Obama's timing is cowardly. He needed to open his mouth a long time ago on this topic, however he's opening his mouth long enough before November that it shouldn't bite him in the ass if he chooses not to make it a focal point of his re-election campaign.

05/09/2012

Tork48309

He's just saying it for the votes, if you know his past, it tells the story.

05/09/2012

Badass

Him saying that at all makes him a better choice than any republican's thinking on the matter.

05/09/2012

Petite Valentine

This Gawker article hits it on the head for me:

Barack Obama’s Bullshit Gay Marriage Announcement

Quote:

"He now believes that gay couples should be able to marry. He doesn't believe they have a right to do so. This is like saying that black children and white children ought to attend the same schools, but if the people of Alabama reject that notion—what are you gonna do?"

05/09/2012

SweetXSurrender89

I guess we'll see if something happens

05/09/2012

Khanner

Late, yes, but a slow inch toward progress.

05/10/2012

Sex Positivity

It is a sentiment that has been a long time coming, but I think the president has held this stance for a long time, but has been unable to openly express it until this time due to an unjust political climate. This is a risky political move and, while it completely eliminates any hope he had of the mostly red states leaning his way, it opens the door for a flood of support from liberal voters who weren't thrilled with him.

It is a monumental decision, to say these things. it takes courage to express your beliefs in any situation, but especially as a world leader.

05/10/2012

ksparkles16

I'm really happy that President Obama came forward and supported gay marriage. I personally think its really a risky move because there are a lot of people out there who don't support it. But, I think he made the right decision.

05/10/2012

Silverdrop

I think he's always been in favor of it and just now admitted it. But whatever his motives it was the right thing to do, and I'm very glad.

Now if we could get full marriage equality here in the UK. We were hoping the Queen's Speech would list that as one of the legislative priorities this year, but it didn't happen. But we already have civil unions, so it's not quite as important as it is for the US and other countries that are further behind.

05/10/2012

Ansley

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Originally posted by mama2007

I just don't know how anyone in this day and age can be against two people being happy.

05/10/2012

Ansley

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Originally posted by Petite Valentine

That's quite the interesting article. I completely missed that point in the article, about right versus should. I'm just really interested to see how it's going to play out.

05/10/2012

Femme Mystique

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Originally posted by Petite Valentine

Bingo. That's great that you think we should be able to, Mr. President, but what are you going to do about it? Also interesting timing considering the polls just now indicate that 50% of people are in favor of same-sex marriage being legal. Seems he waited until that was a politically "safe" statement to make. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he made the statement, but actions speak louder than words and I haven't heard anything about what he would actually do with this revelation.

05/10/2012

P'Gell

I think we need to understand that ANY high ranking politician needs to be diplomatic. Add that to the fact that there are people waiting with baited breath for President Obama to fuck up, people like the immoral and evil Rush Limbaugh (the source where some people actually get not only their news, but then his opinions become theirs) add the disrespect Obama gets from a segment of even Congress, the type of disrespect that NO President has ever been subjected to before, and I think the fact that he came out in support of Gay Marriage is fairly brave!

We also need to understand that this man is the Head of the Free World. He has other issues than this to worry about. Yet, he did find time and energy and bravery to say something.

The fact that SO MANY are out to get him, and yes, a lot of that hatred of our President has a LOT to do with the fact that he is black (although every fucking person who hates him says it isn't and 99% of them are lying) I think Obama saying anything when than NO ONE before him did, is something.

Obama is concerned for GLBT people. But these aren't the only issues we are dealing with today, he also has other issues to worry about. Let's not get greedy. I'm glad he said what he said, I think it took a LOT of bravery to do so, and the timing doesn't bother me at all.

Think of all the.... people.... waiting for him to fuck up and the fact that MANY of them will now have yet an other reason to disrespect and hate him, and he still said what he thought was right.

I see that some people are never happy, they want their pet issues on the forefront of every other person's mind at all times and don't seem to realize there are more than ONE issue that the Leader of the Free World has to deal with. For some people, nothing is ever enough.

I think it's a good thing. I'm not going to get my panties in a wad about the "timing."

05/10/2012

Beck

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Originally posted by Carrie Ann

I'm the paranoid type.

I'm with you. Why would he say that now? He could have said it a long time ago, but now was the right timing? Yeah, I'm paranoid right there with you.

It's so ridiculous that gay marriage is even an issue. How is it that there is a good enough reason for the law not to allow it? And on top of that there are places that have the nerve to out right ban such a thing? Seriously, what is wrong with people? Who are we to judge? Who are we to say those who love each other can't get married? It's disturbing that this even goes on. This is discrimination against those who are gay. It's the year 2012 we need to get over discrimination.

05/10/2012

P'Gell

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Originally posted by Beck

Beck, the man expressed something that NO other president has every said before. It's a start. That's how things get started. We can't expect 1,0000 mile an hour progress for ONE issue when there isn't for others.

Let's be glad it was said, and not jump on the man for his diplomacy. WHO ELSE has said anything who has this much power, in this or any other country?

I think it was brave and honest. And will probably LOSE him more votes than it will gain him. There are a lot of backwards, back assed, back water people in this country, and sadly, they vote.... they also have big mouths. Obama didn't do this "for the votes." He did it for honesty and truth.

Think about it.

05/10/2012

Petite Valentine

Quote:

Originally posted by Ansley

I just don't know how anyone in this day and age can be against two people being happy.

Too many people are more than happy to force their moral and religious beliefs on others.

Though the amendment passed, I was heartened to see a number of southern clergy come out publicly against it. The Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II , President of the NC NAACP, wrote a very eloquent open letter to the state of North Carlolina prior to Tuesday. A small excerpt:

"This is a matter of conscience, not constitutions.

A vote on the same sex marriage amendment has nothing to do with your personal opinion on same sex marriage but everything to do with whether or not you belief discrimination should be codified and legalized constitutionally."

You can see video of Rev. Barber speaking on the issue on YouTube.

05/10/2012

Jayscape

First thing I thought was "good timing" but I'll hold judgment. If this is sincere then I'll be first in line to breathe a contented sigh.

05/10/2012

Beck

Quote:

Originally posted by P'Gell

Beck, the man expressed something that NO other president has every said before. It's a start. That's how things get started. We can't expect 1,0000 mile an hour progress for ONE issue when there isn't for others.

Let's be ... more

Yeah, I'm still paranoid. Whether or not he loses votes doesn't mean it wasn't something he said to get more votes. It will just mean what he said didn't work. I didn't say he did it for the votes. I just said I'm paranoid. I am paranoid and I think they all do things just to raise controversy. It remains to be seen what his idea behind saying this is.

Sure it's a start, but it shouldn't have been something he sheltered until re election time. If he actually cared about the issue he would have taken a stand from the beginning.

05/10/2012

cheesewizz

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Originally posted by Ansley

i think he should have said something sooner, but... who knows. i think he wanted to be a bipartisan person that everyone could agree with. change doesnt happen overnight, and at least he said it.

anyway at the very least im glad that he is our president and not mc cain. even if i dont like how slow he's doing things, at least he's doing something. and i will vote for him again in order to not have mit romney. that man is a disaster

05/10/2012

unfulfilled

I think he did it for re-election reasons, but who am I to know if that's true or not. He can tell us all one thing and then in reality not believe in it. I don't trust politicians.

05/10/2012

Mwar

Either way, we'll see equality. It might take a little longer, but we'll see it in our lifetimes.

05/10/2012

AvaLaRoux

unfortunately his opinion wont influence anyone else, just wish more people in the world would support people being themselves and being happy. who CARES if you are gay or not, just let EVERYONE have the option of being happy or miserable, i feel the same about a A LOT of the hot button issues, everyone should have the option to decide for themselves. just let them decide/find out for themselves if its right for them. its their life why should anyone else stop them from making their own decisions?

05/10/2012

TheSinDoll

I believe that politicians say what they need to in order to win elections. I have no idea if he even cares about gay marriage, but he obviously wants to appeal to voters who think he does.

Question is... what's he going to DO about getting it legalized?

He hasn't done much of what he promised to do in his first term, so even if he DOES make promises, should we believe him?

It's sad that politicians toy with the happiness of couples just to get votes, especially if all they are making are empty promises.

05/10/2012

Beck

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Originally posted by Mwar

Either way, we'll see equality. It might take a little longer, but we'll see it in our lifetimes.

I truly believe this and those who are out right against it will feel like those who were against women's right and civil rights!

05/11/2012

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