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Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Inked glass shaft
I'm writing a review of the Inked smooth glass probe and I have a few questions. Running my hand over the area where the tattoo design is feels different to me so I’m assuming the design is on the outside of the toy given that:

1) How is the design placed on the toy?
2) Is it safe for internal imitate contact i.e. free of latex, PVC, phthalates etc?
3) Is there any chances that the design could peel off after repeated use and washing?
4) Given that design appears to be on the outside of the toy; would using oil or silicone lubes cause any issues with it?
03/02/2010
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Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
I'm writing a review of the Inked smooth glass probe and I have a few questions. Running my hand over the area where the tattoo design is feels different to me so I’m assuming the design is on the outside of the toy given that:

1) How is ... more
Interesting toy - the description says latex free - but it's painted so what kind of paint? I'm a little skeptical - glass tends to be heavy - this one says it's got a 3" diameter - which is way beyond what my wife can handle (about 2" max) - but only weighs 8 ounces? The description is either all wrong - or it's hollow?

At first glance this glass toy is not on our list - too large and too smooth - but I look forward to reading your review.
03/02/2010
Contributor: EffinSara EffinSara
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Interesting toy - the description says latex free - but it's painted so what kind of paint? I'm a little skeptical - glass tends to be heavy - this one says it's got a 3" diameter - which is way beyond what my wife can handle (about ... more
It has to be wrong... it can't have a circumference of 3.25" and a diameter of 3". Also, 2.5" insertable length sounds waaaay off.
03/02/2010
Contributor: xsapphirexangelx xsapphirexangelx
since it labels the insertable length at 2.5 inches then maybe its not intended that you insert it past the decal? thats misleading...
03/02/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
If the design is on the outside, I have to wonder about the safety of bleaching or boiling this for sterilization, too.
03/02/2010
Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by Luscious Lily
If the design is on the outside, I have to wonder about the safety of bleaching or boiling this for sterilization, too.
I have one too, so I will for sure try the boiling and bleaching on it. I can tell you for damn sure that thing will be covered while in use because the "inking" is sure as hell on the outside. I was so excited until I felt it...then my heart sank a little. Especially since the ink scratches off. I will link to my review tomorrow for y'all...with photos and maybe a video so you can hear the scratching (what do you think?)
03/02/2010
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by EffinSara
It has to be wrong... it can't have a circumference of 3.25" and a diameter of 3". Also, 2.5" insertable length sounds waaaay off.
Ya the measurements are way off. This toy pretty much made me decided I need to get some calipers for my toy reviewing. According to my measurement the shaft is 1 inch and the head of the toy is 1 3/8. Nor is this an isolated incident apparently there is a similar duel end probe with similar impossible measurements and despite being longer is listed with a smaller insertable length: link

Even more frustrating Cal list this as 1.75 which is the base's diameter which is not where any ones mind goes when they think diameter.
03/02/2010
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by J's Alley
I have one too, so I will for sure try the boiling and bleaching on it. I can tell you for damn sure that thing will be covered while in use because the "inking" is sure as hell on the outside. I was so excited until I felt it...then my ... more
Same here mind didn't scratch off but after boiling it I put some tape on it (I use this to measure circumference to then calculate an accurate diameter) and when I took the tape off it took some piece of the ink with it.
03/02/2010
Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
Ya the measurements are way off. This toy pretty much made me decided I need to get some calipers for my toy reviewing. According to my measurement the shaft is 1 inch and the head of the toy is 1 3/8. Nor is this an isolated incident apparently ... more
The curved is what I have...even J was shocked when I said I could feel the sticker or whatever.
03/02/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Oftentimes glass "paint" is ground up particles of colored glass. After being applied it is fired in a kiln to melt the "paint" into the main object. My guess is that this is what they're using here - since the design is applied after molding you can feel a slight imperfection where the color is, but since the material is fired it's vitreous and unlikely to flake.
03/02/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
Same here mind didn't scratch off but after boiling it I put some tape on it (I use this to measure circumference to then calculate an accurate diameter) and when I took the tape off it took some piece of the ink with it.
The ink... comes off? Ugh.
03/02/2010
Contributor: Victoria Victoria
Just to let everyone know, I did shoot AL at Cal Exotics an email about this so he could respond and hopefully give some insight. Thanks!
03/02/2010
Contributor: JustYourAverageGuy JustYourAverageGuy
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Originally posted by EffinSara
It has to be wrong... it can't have a circumference of 3.25" and a diameter of 3". Also, 2.5" insertable length sounds waaaay off.
i am also writing a review for this toy, so I will try to address it too
03/02/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Quote:
Originally posted by namelesschaos
Same here mind didn't scratch off but after boiling it I put some tape on it (I use this to measure circumference to then calculate an accurate diameter) and when I took the tape off it took some piece of the ink with it.
In that case I would be worried no matter what the ink is made of. Glass bits coming off would not be a good thing, and paint often has not so nice compounds in it.
03/02/2010
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
Is it a sticker?
03/02/2010
Contributor: JustYourAverageGuy JustYourAverageGuy
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Is it a sticker?
Definitely not a sticker..... my review just was submitted with details. Look for it soon!
03/02/2010
Contributor: Kinky Skier Kinky Skier
Quote:
Originally posted by namelesschaos
I'm writing a review of the Inked smooth glass probe and I have a few questions. Running my hand over the area where the tattoo design is feels different to me so I’m assuming the design is on the outside of the toy given that:

1) How is ... more
I am also reviewing this toy, and was wondering the same thing. You though had a few more concerns than me. I was curious about top rack soap free dishwashing. I guess we'll see. In most printing process on a dynamic surface like this, that is, not flat, they use a pad printing process. I wonder though if after printing they bake it on or something.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Kinky Skier Kinky Skier
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Originally posted by EffinSara
It has to be wrong... it can't have a circumference of 3.25" and a diameter of 3". Also, 2.5" insertable length sounds waaaay off.
It is off, both EF and Cal are wrong, i measured the head on it and it was only 1.35 inches. it is heavy though.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Kinky Skier Kinky Skier
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Originally posted by Kinky Skier
It is off, both EF and Cal are wrong, i measured the head on it and it was only 1.35 inches. it is heavy though.
and yes i used a digital caliper.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
Quote:
Originally posted by namelesschaos
I'm writing a review of the Inked smooth glass probe and I have a few questions. Running my hand over the area where the tattoo design is feels different to me so I’m assuming the design is on the outside of the toy given that:

1) How is ... more
They are hand blown, and the finish is a proprietary formulation. I can tell
you that it is non-toxic, lead free, and non-porous. It is dishwasher safe,
and there are no phthalates, latex, or PVC. Keep in mind, it is a surface finish, and as such, it is not impervious to scratching....but I could only do that with a
sharp razor blade with considerable effort. We have tested this with Toy
Cleaner, Hot soap and water, and alcohol....as well as hot wash and dry settings in a dishwasher. We have deemed this a Safe and Pure product. There are no restrictions as to type of lube used.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
Quote:
Originally posted by Kinky Skier
I am also reviewing this toy, and was wondering the same thing. You though had a few more concerns than me. I was curious about top rack soap free dishwashing. I guess we'll see. In most printing process on a dynamic surface like this, that is, ... more
They are hand blown, and the finish is a proprietary formulation. I can tell
you that it is non-toxic, lead free, and non-porous. It is dishwasher safe,
and there are no phthalates, latex, or PVC. Keep in mind, it is a surface finish, and as such, it is not impervious to scratching....but I could only do that with a
sharp razor blade with considerable effort. We have tested this with Toy
Cleaner, Hot soap and water, and alcohol....as well as hot wash and dry settings in a dishwasher. We have deemed this a Safe and Pure product. There are no restrictions as to type of lube used.

Oh...we tested it on the bottom rack of the dishwasher.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
Quote:
Originally posted by Kinky Skier
I am also reviewing this toy, and was wondering the same thing. You though had a few more concerns than me. I was curious about top rack soap free dishwashing. I guess we'll see. In most printing process on a dynamic surface like this, that is, ... more
We tested it on the bottom rack, set to the hottest settings.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
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Originally posted by ScottA
In that case I would be worried no matter what the ink is made of. Glass bits coming off would not be a good thing, and paint often has not so nice compounds in it.
There are no "glass bits." It is a baked on, surface finish that has been tested for strength and durability. It will scratch, but with considerable effort, much more than normal use would affect it.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Is it a sticker?
No, it's a baked on surface finish. Lead free, no phthalates, no latex, no PVC. It is a Safe and Pure product.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
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Originally posted by Luscious Lily
The ink... comes off? Ugh.
I could only scratch it with a sharp razor....hardly normal use. It ran through our diswasher test on the bottom rack on hot settings, with no affect.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
Quote:
Originally posted by ScottA
Oftentimes glass "paint" is ground up particles of colored glass. After being applied it is fired in a kiln to melt the "paint" into the main object. My guess is that this is what they're using here - since the design is ... more
Right on!
03/03/2010
Contributor: Al Bloom Al Bloom
(Cal Exotics)
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Originally posted by J's Alley
I have one too, so I will for sure try the boiling and bleaching on it. I can tell you for damn sure that thing will be covered while in use because the "inking" is sure as hell on the outside. I was so excited until I felt it...then my ... more
Hmmm...If scratching off a finish with a sharp object is the new "test" then all manufacturers are in some deep doo doo. These toys are made with Safe and Pure materials, and the expectation is normal use, not dissection. If anyone feels uncomfortable, or the finish does come off, we stand behind it 100%. There are no phthalates, latex, PVC, or any other harmful chemicals in the surface finish.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
I would think it would be a better idea to coat the design with clear glass.. maybe?
03/03/2010
Contributor: EffinSara EffinSara
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Originally posted by Al Bloom
They are hand blown, and the finish is a proprietary formulation. I can tell
you that it is non-toxic, lead free, and non-porous. It is dishwasher safe,
and there are no phthalates, latex, or PVC. Keep in mind, it is a surface finish, and as ... more
The phrase "proprietary formulation" makes me nervous. It is kind of important to many reviewers in this community that we know what exactly it is that we're putting in contact with our bodies. Because we are independently evaluating products, it is important to us that we have as much information as possible. It isn't enough for me as a consumer to know that a manufacturer has deemed its own products safe, just as it isn't enough when a company has said that its products are the best thing since sliced bread. That's why I read reviews. And that's why I try to provide accurate safety information to my readers.

I personally would not buy or recommend this product based on the information provided.
03/03/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
Quote:
Originally posted by Al Bloom
Hmmm...If scratching off a finish with a sharp object is the new "test" then all manufacturers are in some deep doo doo. These toys are made with Safe and Pure materials, and the expectation is normal use, not dissection. If anyone feels ... more
If you look back, none of the reviewers took a sharp object to the finish. One mentions scratching (which generally implies use of fingernails), the other simply applying tape to the surface to help get an accurate measurement. Regardless of the safety of the material of the finish, it should not be coming off. Flaking off of pieces of any object designed for insertion are a cause for concern.

Since it took a razor blade to remove it in your lab, perhaps a bad batch got through early on that wasn't fixed correctly. We don't use razor blades and other sharp objects to test finishes - as you implied, that would be ridiculous and silly.
03/04/2010