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#EdenLit - Club Meeting-June 11, 2012 @ 7pm EST

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Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
We do indeed need some new topics!

We have Independence day, Summer Solstice, Heat, Sun, outdoors....there's got to be a couple of topics in all of that!
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Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
Hmmm...Summer themes....
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Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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I definitely noticed the depressed tone! I even commented a little about the cruelty in the last few lines of your poem.
I have no idea where that poem came from, either. I just sat down one day and that sort of poured out. I felt better afterward ubntil all my loved ones began to see themselves in the poem. I had to just reassure them that it was something that came out but wasn't about anyone in particular...hell it could have been about me. I was thinking about the character development exercise just before I wrote it.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
Hmmm...right about this time last year, didn't we do skinny dipping stuff?
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Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Hmmm...right about this time last year, didn't we do skinny dipping stuff?
Yup...I was thinking we could do something about what Independence means to each of us. Not as a sort of National theme but more personal.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
We do indeed need some new topics!

We have Independence day, Summer Solstice, Heat, Sun, outdoors....there's got to be a couple of topics in all of that!
Summer ssolstice lends itself to talking about incremental change. Is that a reasonable writing topic?
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Summer ssolstice lends itself to talking about incremental change. Is that a reasonable writing topic?
That could be an amazing topic!
06/11/2012
Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
I have no idea where this came from but I just suddenly thought "A Midsummer Night's Dream"--maybe some sort of story involving a Shakespeare character? Really, no idea where that came from as I know very little Shakespeare well enough to write a story without doing some major research.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That could be an amazing topic!
I really don't know how to change incrementally. Most of mine have been seismic. LOL
06/11/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Cedarlooman
I have no idea where this came from but I just suddenly thought "A Midsummer Night's Dream"--maybe some sort of story involving a Shakespeare character? Really, no idea where that came from as I know very little Shakespeare well enough ... more
Shakespeare is pretty standard. His characters are quite stereotypical for the time.

A Midsummer Night's Dream is really interesting but it's one of his more difficult plays (in my opinion), but Titania is a strong and dynamic character that would fit well into just about any story line.
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Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
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Originally posted by Ansley
Shakespeare is pretty standard. His characters are quite stereotypical for the time.

A Midsummer Night's Dream is really interesting but it's one of his more difficult plays (in my opinion), but Titania is a strong and dynamic ... more
I was thinking more Auberon or Pip. My only exposure to Midsummer is the references to it in "The Samdman" comic book.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Cedarlooman
I have no idea where this came from but I just suddenly thought "A Midsummer Night's Dream"--maybe some sort of story involving a Shakespeare character? Really, no idea where that came from as I know very little Shakespeare well enough ... more
Personally, I could write reams about this topic as I LOVE pretty much anything Shakespearean but it could be intimidating to other writers, perhaps?
I could, however, talk about the sub themes of the Midsummer Night's Dream and work in a topic....or we could bring that up in a future meeting if we discuss Shakespearean English...
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Cedarlooman
I really don't know how to change incrementally. Most of mine have been seismic. LOL
That works for a Midsummer topic as well though...the flowers do seem to BURST forth and the change, while incremental feels like a sudden flame after being cold and barren for so long.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Ansley
Shakespeare is pretty standard. His characters are quite stereotypical for the time.

A Midsummer Night's Dream is really interesting but it's one of his more difficult plays (in my opinion), but Titania is a strong and dynamic ... more
Hell the sub plots in 'Dream' are strong enough characters to stand out in a story line...but I am a nerd who actually READS the plays LOL On the upside my girls have read and enjoyed Romeo and Juliette, so it's not all bad.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
It is Father's Day this month too as well as National Men's Health week this week. (Hence all the men's toy specials this week).
06/11/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Hell the sub plots in 'Dream' are strong enough characters to stand out in a story line...but I am a nerd who actually READS the plays LOL On the upside my girls have read and enjoyed Romeo and Juliette, so it's not all bad.
Agreed. Though, man I could have some wicked fun with Titus Andronicus...brutal play. Absolutely brutal. But, that would have to be for something else. It's not exactly summery and happy.
06/11/2012
Contributor: ScarletFox ScarletFox
While Shakespearean is intimidating I have to say it would be a challenge, but it is certainly a topic I would be interested in no matter the form. It was always my favorite subject when it came around in English and we took a break from Hemingway.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by ScarletFox
While Shakespearean is intimidating I have to say it would be a challenge, but it is certainly a topic I would be interested in no matter the form. It was always my favorite subject when it came around in English and we took a break from Hemingway.
I have (intentionally) never read a sentence Hemingway wrote. Nor Twain.
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Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Cedarlooman
It is Father's Day this month too as well as National Men's Health week this week. (Hence all the men's toy specials this week).
Mens' interests would be an amazing topic...talk about Dad!
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Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Ansley
I have (intentionally) never read a sentence Hemingway wrote. Nor Twain.
See? I am a nerd...I've read both
06/11/2012
Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
You can tell you ladies are much more into classic lit than I am. I have read Romeo & Juliet and Hamlet and King Lear- that's the one with the three witches, right?
06/11/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
See? I am a nerd...I've read both
No, I was just being hipster before hipster was cool. (Imma ollld llama.)
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Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
OK So on the board is:
Independence and what it means to us personally.
Tell us about your Dad...or about that wonderful man you have fathered children with.
Midsummer changes.

What do you guys vote?
06/11/2012
Contributor: ScarletFox ScarletFox
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Originally posted by Ansley
I have (intentionally) never read a sentence Hemingway wrote. Nor Twain.
Growing up where he lived, it was kinda forced down our throats. I have read The Old Man and the Sea so many times. He was a good writer, I will give him that. But man they just killed my enjoyment in school lol.
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Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
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Originally posted by Ansley
I have (intentionally) never read a sentence Hemingway wrote. Nor Twain.
You are really missing out with the Twain...I haven't read any Hemingwy or Thorou...
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Cedarlooman
You can tell you ladies are much more into classic lit than I am. I have read Romeo & Juliet and Hamlet and King Lear- that's the one with the three witches, right?
Actually there are three crones/witches in many of his plays...he was fixated on them for some damn reason.
06/11/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Cedarlooman
You are really missing out with the Twain...I haven't read any Hemingwy or Thorou...
See? I don't think so. There's nothing about his stories that interested me. Growing up in the south, I was sick of racism from the get-go and I was loathe to read ANOTHER anthem about it. I've probably read over 600 books about slavery, the South and the Civil War. Enough is enough!
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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You are really missing out with the Twain...I haven't read any Hemingwy or Thorou...
On Walden Pond is a good read until your english lit teacher begins to tear it apart looking for some rationale that honestly isn't there...and ruins it for you...
06/11/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Ansley
See? I don't think so. There's nothing about his stories that interested me. Growing up in the south, I was sick of racism from the get-go and I was loathe to read ANOTHER anthem about it. I've probably read over 600 books about slavery, ... more
Some of his other works were pretty non racist and were actually more like light fluff reading...but don't tell a Twainist that or risk getting scalped. The man had a sense of humor that was amazing and even HE said that sometimes a sunset is just a sunset...and a river is just a river...
06/11/2012
Contributor: Cedarlooman Cedarlooman
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Originally posted by Ansley
See? I don't think so. There's nothing about his stories that interested me. Growing up in the south, I was sick of racism from the get-go and I was loathe to read ANOTHER anthem about it. I've probably read over 600 books about slavery, ... more
That's the thing, he used wit and sarcasm to speak against those ways while using the backdrop to to make it familiar.
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