Eden Photographers Club Meeting - Tuesday, August 16th @ 7pm EDT (Topic: histograms)

Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
So, most of you are aware of the calendar the Eden Photographers club is putting together, yes? Well, the first person to tell me one of the monthly photo themes for the calendar will win a $25 gift certificate.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, most of you are aware of the calendar the Eden Photographers club is putting together, yes? Well, the first person to tell me one of the monthly photo themes for the calendar will win a $25 gift certificate.
The eden community!
08/16/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
Pets
08/16/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, most of you are aware of the calendar the Eden Photographers club is putting together, yes? Well, the first person to tell me one of the monthly photo themes for the calendar will win a $25 gift certificate.
animals!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vanessa Weiss Vanessa Weiss
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, most of you are aware of the calendar the Eden Photographers club is putting together, yes? Well, the first person to tell me one of the monthly photo themes for the calendar will win a $25 gift certificate.
sunrises
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Ivy Wilde
The eden community!
That's the theme for the whole calendar, not one of the monthly themes.

Sorry.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
Vehicles
It can be whatever you drive, but need not be a full shot of said vehicle. A closeup of a particular portion of the vehicle would work too.

Jewelry
You can be wearing them or not wearing them (no jewelry on your naughty bits, please), they can be funky or classic... whatever jewelry suits you.

Body art
This one was the most popular of the theme ideas. Again, be careful with what body parts you include in the photos.

Pets
Pretty self-explanatory: your pets.

Holiday spirit
This one is probably the only one that has a month already picked out for it: December. Regardless of what religion (or lack thereof) you may be, the end of the year is generally a festive month, so dig out your holiday swag and show us your spirit!

Hobbies
Whatever your hobby might be, show us what you do to enjoy yourself in your leisure time.

Being green
The EdenFantasys community is pretty environmentally friendly (green), so show us how you are green. This theme probably will require the most creativity, so give it a lot of thought.

Travel/vacation
Where do you vacation? Do you have any great photos from past vacations? Do you have an upcoming vacation planned? Show us what adventures you've been on!

Body parts
Obviously, there are certain body parts that are unsuitable for this calendar, but there are plenty of ways to get around that and make your photos beautiful, sexy, yet mainstream.

Healthy living
Healthy living, like being green, is very important to a lot of people here, so show us how you stay healthy.

Summer
Ideally, we'd have each of the seasons as a theme, but since the period for photo submissions occurs during August and September, summer is the best the vast majority of us can do. So, show us what summer means to you!

Where you live
Obviously we don't need the specific town to be obvious in your photo, but when you think of where you live, what comes to mind? What best represents that place you call home?
08/16/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
vechiles, jewlery, body art, pets, holiday, green living, travel summer, healthy living, where you live
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by sexyintexas
Pets
Congratulations sexyintexas! You just won yourself a $25 EdenFantasys gift card!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Ivy Wilde
Vehicles
It can be whatever you drive, but need not be a full shot of said vehicle. A closeup of a particular portion of the vehicle would work too.

Jewelry
You can be wearing them or not wearing them (no jewelry on your naughty bits, ... more
awww cheater i wouldve copied and pasted if i knew that was an option LOL
08/16/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Ivy Wilde
Vehicles
It can be whatever you drive, but need not be a full shot of said vehicle. A closeup of a particular portion of the vehicle would work too.

Jewelry
You can be wearing them or not wearing them (no jewelry on your naughty bits, ... more
Wow, good answer!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vanessa Weiss Vanessa Weiss
Aww, I remembered something about Sunrise/Sunsets - I should have guessed pets
08/16/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
YAY SEXYINTEXAS!!!
08/16/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Congratulations sexyintexas! You just won yourself a $25 EdenFantasys gift card!
Yay! Thanks
08/16/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Congratulations sexyintexas! You just won yourself a $25 EdenFantasys gift card!
congrats my dear!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vanessa Weiss Vanessa Weiss
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Originally posted by sexyintexas
Yay! Thanks
Congrats
08/16/2011
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Congratulations sexyintexas! You just won yourself a $25 EdenFantasys gift card!
Congratulations Sexyintexas!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by sexyintexas
Yay! Thanks
Congrats!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Vanessa Weiss
Aww, I remembered something about Sunrise/Sunsets - I should have guessed pets
That was one of the options for next months critiquing theme, actually.

But I'm glad you remembered that!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
So, in general, you want to make sure the tonalities in your photos don't go over the edges of the histogram. If you have to make a choice between going over the right (highlight) or left (shadow) edges, most people feel irretreivable data on the shadow side is better (and less distracting) than on the highlight side.

Thus, if you can keep the tonalities in your photo between the two edges of the histogram, you should have an acceptable photo. Is it this simple, though? Of course not. Some images have such a narrow range of tonalities (shown as a sharp, narrow peak on the histogram) that being between the two edges may still result in the image looking overexposed or underexposed, although not to the extent that data is irretrievably lost. The good news is that if the tonalities are situated to one side of the histogram (or even if they leak over the edge of the histogram), you can adjust the exposure (change the f-stop, shutter speed, or ISO) and retake the photo to get the exposure you want. In other words, having the range of tonalities lie between the edges of the histograms is something you'll usually shoot for, but it is not the only thing to look for to make certain your image is exposed properly.

If you routinely use photo processing software, you have another option. That is to take your photo so that as many of the tonalities are towards the right (highlight) side of the histogram without going over the edge. Then, when working up your photo in your photo processing software, shift the exposure until your photo is exposed properly. The advantage of doing it this way is that most of the information in a digital photo is situated towards the right (highlight) end of the histogram. As such, taking a photo that is as close to the right edge as possible will result in the most information being in your photo as possible, sharper images, and more vibrant colors. This is the biggest difference between shooting with digital and shooting with film, IMO. With film, information is spread evenly from shadows to highlights, but digital cameras have far, far more information at the highlight end.

This can be a bit confusing, so if anyone has any questions about it, ask now and I'll walk you through it in more detail.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vanessa Weiss Vanessa Weiss
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
That was one of the options for next months critiquing theme, actually.

But I'm glad you remembered that!
Heh, I remembered it because it's one of the things I'm terrible at taking pictures of.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
I think I understand...
08/16/2011
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, in general, you want to make sure the tonalities in your photos don't go over the edges of the histogram. If you have to make a choice between going over the right (highlight) or left (shadow) edges, most people feel irretreivable data on ... more
"That is to take your photo so that as many of the tonalities are towards the right (highlight) side of the histogram without going over the edge. Then, when working up your photo in your photo processing software, shift the exposure until your photo is exposed properly. "

Would you really recommend this over trying to get the correct exposure in camera?
08/16/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
I get it but I think its one of those subjects thats easier to follow in real life. Histograms can be kinda complicated sounding in words when its not so much in real life with some hands on help.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Vanessa Weiss
Heh, I remembered it because it's one of the things I'm terrible at taking pictures of.
I forget. Were you there for the Eden Photographers meeting last month? I gave a really good pointer on how to improve your sunrise and sunset photos.
08/16/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, in general, you want to make sure the tonalities in your photos don't go over the edges of the histogram. If you have to make a choice between going over the right (highlight) or left (shadow) edges, most people feel irretreivable data on ... more
You explained it pretty easily to understand. When in doubt lean toward the right and that has the most information so that you can work with it later.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vanessa Weiss Vanessa Weiss
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
I forget. Were you there for the Eden Photographers meeting last month? I gave a really good pointer on how to improve your sunrise and sunset photos.
I missed it last month - but I'm sure I can go back and look!
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Petite Valentine
"That is to take your photo so that as many of the tonalities are towards the right (highlight) side of the histogram without going over the edge. Then, when working up your photo in your photo processing software, shift the exposure until your ... more
This is the way I do it, because I need my photos to me as good as possible for publication. If all you do with your photos is take them and share them with friends and family, it's probably not a big deal. In other words, if you need your photos to look their best, do it the way I do, but if it doesn't really matter to you, it may not be worth your effort. It's totally your call based on how you use your photographs.
08/16/2011
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
This is the way I do it, because I need my photos to me as good as possible for publication. If all you do with your photos is take them and share them with friends and family, it's probably not a big deal. In other words, if you need your ... more
Can you do this with jpgs or do you need to have RAW files?
08/16/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
I get it but I think its one of those subjects thats easier to follow in real life. Histograms can be kinda complicated sounding in words when its not so much in real life with some hands on help.
When you next have your hands on your camera, try taking a number of photos and looking at the histograms along with the photos. They are pretty self explanatory once you learn how to interpret them.
08/16/2011