Eden Photographers Club Meeting - Tuesday, May17th @ 7pm EDT

Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Jul!a
I don't have my camera here with me for reference, but I'd be willing to learn. I do manually focus on occasion, but I've always played my photography off of what looked right to me and not what settings said. Drove my high school ... more
Digital is more forgiving in that respect since you can look at the photo as soon as you take it and then make the necessary adjustments.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
So, Alys, do I need to clarify what I wrote in the last post of mine?
05/17/2011
Contributor: bongoboy529 bongoboy529
Certainly a quiet night here! First time poster here, I just happened to see this as I was browsing through a community roundup.

As for the depth of focus discussion, from experience, I always recommend keeping a close eye on where the auto-focus point is (if you use auto-focus)! I've wrecked more than a few photos because I forgot to manually set the focus point to be used, and instead of a nice sharp face in a portrait, the tree behind the person is tack sharp! Thankfully, I've never done that with a client, but certainly a few times on my own personal shoots!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
I have not. That's pretty cool. I figured they'd come out with those sooner or later. Of course, the resulting photos can't be printed out without having a stereoscope to look at them.
My mom saved up and got one. It's pretty neat how it does it. A lens on each side take a picture at the same time. To get the 3-D effect it displays the two pictures on top of each other. Otherwise you can print either one. You can use the two lenses to take one regular picture and one in B&W, etc. It's pretty nifty.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Alys Alys
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, Alys, do I need to clarify what I wrote in the last post of mine?
It's just the math that confuses me, mostly
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by bongoboy529
Certainly a quiet night here! First time poster here, I just happened to see this as I was browsing through a community roundup.

As for the depth of focus discussion, from experience, I always recommend keeping a close eye on where the ... more
And that there is the reason why I hate using autofocus.

And welcome to the for-some-reason quiet meeting.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Digital is more forgiving in that respect since you can look at the photo as soon as you take it and then make the necessary adjustments.
A huge part of why I love digital so much. I love developing film and making my own prints, but I'm also a child of the instant gratification age, and digital cameras play right into that, lol.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Alys
It's just the math that confuses me, mostly
Oh. Screw the math. Unless you are anal retentive about it, just give it your best educated guess and adjust what you've done after looking at it on the LCD screen. That is what I do, and with practice, it works just fine.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by bongoboy529
Certainly a quiet night here! First time poster here, I just happened to see this as I was browsing through a community roundup.

As for the depth of focus discussion, from experience, I always recommend keeping a close eye on where the ... more
Welcome to the meeting!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Oh. Screw the math. Unless you are anal retentive about it, just give it your best educated guess and adjust what you've done after looking at it on the LCD screen. That is what I do, and with practice, it works just fine.
I agree with Alys about the math. Math is so not my strong point.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Jul!a
My mom saved up and got one. It's pretty neat how it does it. A lens on each side take a picture at the same time. To get the 3-D effect it displays the two pictures on top of each other. Otherwise you can print either one. You can use the ... more
I leaned to to that using a sliding rail on my tripod and then using a stereoscope to view it. Ah, the good old days...
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Moving forward...
Macrophotography is the one area of photography where the application of DOF not only can make a the subject stand out, but had make a photo into an ethereal display of art. This is especially the case with shallow depths of field (large apertures/small f-stops). In most cases with macrophotography, you want to do everything possible to maximize depth of field, because by nature macro lenses and macro modes have reduced depth of field. As such, it can be difficult, if not impossible, to get everything you want to be in focus actually be in focus. In this case, you need to figure out what precisely needs to be in focus and accentuate that. If your subject is an animal, you usually need to make sure the eyes are in focus. For flowers, the edge of a petal, the tips of the reproductive structures, or some other leading edge is usually the most pleasing to the eye. Inanimate objects are much the same way, as leading edges or interesting focal points are usually the desired to be in focus. In all three cases, it is important to get the leading edge you want to have in focus be parallel to your camera lens. Sometimes having it at another angle can yield nice photos, but in general you’ll want to make sure as much of that edge as possible is in focus.



Beyond that, the amount of DOF is up to you. Do you want most of your subject to be in acceptable focus to maximize the amount of detail, or do you want to minimize it to create something abstract? Neither is necessarily the wrong choice, but choosing one over the other should reflect what you want to say artistically about the subject matter.

If you do intend to do macrophotography and want to maximize the amount of depth of field, make sure not to make to back-focus slightly. For example, if you were photographing a flower and wanted to make sure the leading edge of the flower and as much of the rest of the flower as possible was in focus, don’t make your focal point the leading edge. Instead, move your focal point back just enough so that the leading edge starts to become fuzzy (the exact amount depends on several factors, most importantly the f-stop). By doing so, you are extending the depth of field a bit farther than had you made your focal point the leading edge.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
I'm here and catching up!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Alys Alys
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
Moving forward...
Macrophotography is the one area of photography where the application of DOF not only can make a the subject stand out, but had make a photo into an ethereal display of art. This is especially the case with shallow depths of ... more
I love, love, love, LOVE macro photography!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I'm here and catching up!
Yay! Glad you got here!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I'm here and catching up!
Welcome Airen!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Alys
I love, love, love, LOVE macro photography!
I so love trying to do macro photography!

I will get a macro lens to work for me, and I will take macro-riffic photos!
05/17/2011
Contributor: bongoboy529 bongoboy529
Yup, autofocus is a blessing, but only when it works properly! I couldn't imagine trying to shoot a fast-paced game, like football or basketball on manual focus! I mean, if you could focus on just one point, like right near the basket to get a particular shot, I could see that working. But, imagine trying to follow the action of the game?!? That's some incredibly skillful manual focusing!

I also agree regarding the math, I never do the math on the fly, I just take a few test shots and check the LCD. I have a lot of respect for people who came from or still shoot film, and have to do that kind of math since they can't check the shots until the shoot is done!!!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by Alys
I love, love, love, LOVE macro photography!
Me too, obviously. I'm actually getting a new macro lens next month. I need it to do underwater photography, as my old macro lens is external focusing (the lens elongates as it focuses).
05/17/2011
Contributor: Alys Alys
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Originally posted by Jul!a
I so love trying to do macro photography!

I will get a macro lens to work for me, and I will take macro-riffic photos!
I've only got a P&S digital, but you've probably noticed in the photos I take for Eden Cooks...
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
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Originally posted by bongoboy529
Yup, autofocus is a blessing, but only when it works properly! I couldn't imagine trying to shoot a fast-paced game, like football or basketball on manual focus! I mean, if you could focus on just one point, like right near the basket to get a ... more
Autofucus absolutely has its uses, but for the photography I do, it serves me little purpose.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
So, can y'all see what I'm talking about in the photos about making leading edges and specific points your priority in shallow depth of field macro shots?
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Alys
I've only got a P&S digital, but you've probably noticed in the photos I take for Eden Cooks...
A lot of the pictures I've managed to get neat close-ups of were taken with a P&S. You can definitely get some neat pictures with a P&S. Unlike Vac, I can't really tell what kind of camera is being used right off the bat most of the time.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, can y'all see what I'm talking about in the photos about making leading edges and specific points your priority in shallow depth of field macro shots?
Yes
05/17/2011
Contributor: bongoboy529 bongoboy529
Quote:
Originally posted by Vaccinium
So, can y'all see what I'm talking about in the photos about making leading edges and specific points your priority in shallow depth of field macro shots?
Yup, following you perfectly!
05/17/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
I love playing with the DOF but I inevitably get it backwards and the wrong thing is clearly seen. It can be quite comical...
05/17/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
A lot of the pictures I've managed to get neat close-ups of were taken with a P&S. You can definitely get some neat pictures with a P&S. Unlike Vac, I can't really tell what kind of camera is being used right off the bat most of the time.
I can't always tell, either. Like I said before, you can get some high quality photos out of P and S cameras. They just have their limits.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Welcome Airen!
Thanks I meant to be here on time but got caught up in a new article and lost track of time....sorry Vac...
05/17/2011
Contributor: Noira Noira
Hello! Read through and now I'm caught up.

Woohoo, macro photography. Macros are the only thing my camera will let me manually focus. I need a better camera, but I don't do enough photography to justify the cost. Alas, I'm stuck with the digital point and shoot.

Looove the mushroom picture macro.
05/17/2011
Contributor: Alys Alys
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
A lot of the pictures I've managed to get neat close-ups of were taken with a P&S. You can definitely get some neat pictures with a P&S. Unlike Vac, I can't really tell what kind of camera is being used right off the bat most of the time.
I guess I mistyped. I meant that you could tell that I love macro photography from the photos I've taken, even though I only have a P&S to play with. Typing faster than the brain works gets messy
05/17/2011