#EdenCooks - Thanksgiving Party

Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
Is it good with allergies? Cause almost every lube gives me a reaction? hahaha
Oh darn, it may not be. Would you rather have this instead?
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Oldman's Improved, Non-Flattening Apple Pie


When I make an apple pie, I take a large mixing bowl and put a couple of Tablespoons of lemon juice (I usually just use the jarred, unless we happen to have some real lemons) in the bottom. Then as I peel and slice the apples, I drop them in the bowl and after each apple, I take my hands and toss them around so they are all coated with the lemon juice. This stops them from turning brown while apple #1 waits for apple #12.??Now, add whatever sugar(s) (I use a ratio of 4 white sugar to 1 brown sugar)and spices (I just use cinnamon and a touch of nutmeg). Now, mix-mix-mis-mix!! Drain any juice and save. ??Then in a large frypan with deep sides, I toss in a Tablespoon of unsalted butter. When it has melted and the pan is hot (but be careful not to let the butter brown) add the apple slices. Try not to add any of the juice but save for later. Add a little water if you need it--like if you think the apples are sticking. ??Now, cook the apples, covered, on a low heat for maybe 10 minutes and stir often. You have to check the frequently because sometimes I end up with applesauce (which is still yummy but not in a pie!) When the apples are soft, but not too soft, uncover and let them cool. At this point you should put them in a container and refridgerate them so they get cold--you don't want them to melt the fat in your pie crust.??In the pan that you cooked the apples, add all the juices and simmer, uncovered until it thickens to a thick, syrupy viscosity. Again, you need to be careful at this point because you will go from syrup to hard candy texture in a heartbeat. You can put this syrup over the apples and cool it all together.??I am sure you can see where we are going with this--when the apples are partially cooked, they will not release much more water, which is what caused them to deflate. I started doing this because I was always irritated when my apple pies had that empty space between the crust and the apples.

Trivia:The apple is grown as a composite tree consisting of a rootstock and a fruiting
scion, and occasionally a three-part tree that includes a genetically distinct trunk or
interstem. Thus, genetic improvement must involve both rootstock and scion. In
the 1980s there was considerable revival of interest in planting self-rooted trees, a
prospect made commercially possible by improved micropropagation methods. Loss
of the growth-regulating chemicals necessary to control tree growth in the orchard
has virtually eliminated interest in own-rooted apples but the concept is attractive
for very high-density orchards.

11/21/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Tessa Taboo
Ohhhhhh.....lol. So adding it to the juices and heating it up doesn't work? LOL
You can either make a roux and cook the flour first with an oil/butter, then add the liquid/drippings, or mix the flour with water first and slowly add the mixture to the liquid/drippings. However, with the second way you have to be sure to cook the gravy for a bit to cook out the raw flour taste.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Congratulations Starkiller! You win yourself your choice of any in stock flavor of the Toko Aroma lube!!Please email me at Sam @ edenfantasys.com with your address so I can get that sent out to you! ... more
Congratz!
11/21/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
Oh darn, it may not be. Would you rather have this instead?
Oh yes please thanks Sam. Dont mean to be a pain. I just want to avoid going to the doctor ahaha.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Darklyvan Darklyvan
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
You can either make a roux and cook the flour first with an oil/butter, then add the liquid/drippings, or mix the flour with water first and slowly add the mixture to the liquid/drippings. However, with the second way you have to be sure to cook the ... more
a roux always works best
11/21/2011
Contributor: Tessa Taboo Tessa Taboo
Quote:
Originally posted by Darklyvan
a roux always works best
Ohhh... thanks!
11/21/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Starkiller87
Oh yes please thanks Sam. Dont mean to be a pain. I just want to avoid going to the doctor ahaha.
No problem, go ahead and email me with your address anyway so that I can get your delicious new paint out to you!
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Say
Meat jello!
Say, isn't *all* jello meat jello?

Unless something's done with pectin, I mean.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Willow Wand Willow Wand
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Originally posted by Antipova
Say, isn't *all* jello meat jello?

Unless something's done with pectin, I mean.
Well, technically, but it isn't usually meat flavored, lol
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova


So when it's time to take the turkey out of the oven, you're almost there. The last step is to make the gravy from the drippings in the bottom of the turkey pan.

Gravy can be one of those things some people are worried about cooking "wrong"---do you have any gravy anxieties?

We've covered a few---"Meat jello" is something to avoid, and to avoid it, we make a roux.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
Quote:
Originally posted by Darklyvan
a roux always works best
My husband was a cook for 15 years and he always does our gravy and he always does a roux too - he says it works best and is easiest to fix if you make a mistake..
11/21/2011
Contributor: Darklyvan Darklyvan
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
My husband was a cook for 15 years and he always does our gravy and he always does a roux too - he says it works best and is easiest to fix if you make a mistake..
I too have cooked professionally for quite a while, that is how I learned to always use rouxs
11/21/2011
Contributor: Tessa Taboo Tessa Taboo
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
My husband was a cook for 15 years and he always does our gravy and he always does a roux too - he says it works best and is easiest to fix if you make a mistake..
I have no idea how this didn't occur to me. LOL! I feel absolutely stupid for not thinking of it. I was just excited to use my new gravy boat. Which turned out to be more of a flour flavored jello mold....lol.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Y'all ready for the gravy?
11/21/2011
Contributor: ellejay ellejay
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
Y'all ready for the gravy?
Yes ma'am
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Gravy is infinitely variable---the book I put here sitting next to all the ingredients was actually the first cookbook I have ever read from cover to cover, and it's the book that convinced me to stop being a vegetarian (because there were just too many new interesting things to cook if I would let myself use meat drippings!) So you can do an awful lot of things with gravy and still come out "right."

About the only things to definitely avoid are 1. having lumps, 2. reducing it so much that it tastes like glue 3. (if you're thickening with flour), not letting the flour brown up before adding the liquid (because raw flour is the other way your gravy will taste like glue).

So, with a million variations, and only three things to avoid, let's just do the very simplest gravy possible. I'm calling the gravy I made for these pictures "laziest possible gravy," because I used drippings I saved when I baked some chicken drumsticks for my boyfriend's packed lunches, and because I'm using chicken broth from a box instead of homemade stock.





Laziest Possible Gravy
2 Tablespoons butter
2-3 Tablespoons flour
optionally ~0.5 cup of chopped onion
drippings from turkey pan
<16 oz chicken or turkey stock, totaling 16 oz when you combine the stock with the drippings
salt to taste
pepper to taste
drop of acid (white wine vinegar or lemon juice) to taste
(totally optional) pinch of msg because the boxed broth annoyed me by claiming it was msg-free

Trivia: According to this study of possible hydroponic foodstuffs for long-term space missions, the tubers of potatoes do not bioaccumulate Nitrogen, and so they may be a useful food source for long-term "ecosystem in a bottle" conditions.]
11/21/2011
Contributor: Kaltir Kaltir
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
Y'all ready for the gravy?
Is there ever a time someone's NOT ready for gravy?? YUMMMM:-D
11/21/2011
Contributor: Darklyvan Darklyvan
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
Y'all ready for the gravy?
absolutely
11/21/2011
Contributor: Willow Wand Willow Wand
Quote:
Originally posted by Antipova
Y'all ready for the gravy?
YUM YUM!
11/21/2011
Contributor: ichwillwaffels ichwillwaffels
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Originally posted by Kaltir
Is there ever a time someone's NOT ready for gravy?? YUMMMM:-D
Yes. Yes there is. I hate gravy.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Willow Wand Willow Wand
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Originally posted by ichwillwaffels
Yes. Yes there is. I hate gravy.
I could eat gravy on EVERYTHING!
11/21/2011
Contributor: Kaltir Kaltir
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Originally posted by ichwillwaffels
Yes. Yes there is. I hate gravy.
I already know you're crazy, so this comment is void.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Antipova
Gravy is infinitely variable---the book I put here sitting next to all the ingredients was actually the first cookbook I have ever read from cover to cover, and it's the book that convinced me to stop being a vegetarian (because there were just ... more
You may call it lazy, but your recipe will still be 100 times better than anything from a jar or can.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Darklyvan Darklyvan
You lost me at onions lol, I have always hated onions
11/21/2011
Contributor: Tessa Taboo Tessa Taboo
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Originally posted by ichwillwaffels
Yes. Yes there is. I hate gravy.
I don't HATE gravy, but I feel like it's one of those things that people use to cover the taste of the food when it's dry, or not flavorful enough. Just like steak sauce for a steak. It just ruins the natural flavors, I think.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
You may call it lazy, but your recipe will still be 100 times better than anything from a jar or can.
And it doesn't take any more time, *and* you wind up using something you otherwise would have thrown away, instead of spending $ on a can.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Quote:
Originally posted by Darklyvan
You lost me at onions lol, I have always hated onions
But they were optional onions! Ignore them!
11/21/2011
Contributor: ichwillwaffels ichwillwaffels
Quote:
Originally posted by Tessa Taboo
I don't HATE gravy, but I feel like it's one of those things that people use to cover the taste of the food when it's dry, or not flavorful enough. Just like steak sauce for a steak. It just ruins the natural flavors, I think.
I avoid this by not eating food that I have to cover the taste of. I never cared for the flavor itself though.
11/21/2011
Contributor: Darklyvan Darklyvan
Quote:
Originally posted by Tessa Taboo
I don't HATE gravy, but I feel like it's one of those things that people use to cover the taste of the food when it's dry, or not flavorful enough. Just like steak sauce for a steak. It just ruins the natural flavors, I think.
I use steak sauce on my cheaper steaks for just that reason
11/21/2011