#EdenCooks - Buttermilk Pancakes and Brown Sugar Syrup - Mon 16 April, 8pm EST

Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by Taylor
Maybe that's why my pancakes have always sucked. I'm usually too impatient to wait for them to cook enough, I usually end up with scrambled pancakes lol
Oh yeah, you gotta wait for the bubbles!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Say Say
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
Yeah ive been dating the same guy for 4 years no more sleepovers. Maybe I should dump him so i can impress someone with my morning cooking skills. hahaha thatd be horrible.
Wait, sleepovers stop after a certain number of years? This marriage thing I hear about is highly overrated!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova

Does anybody have strong opinions in favor of or against buttermilk in pancakes?
04/16/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Antipova

Does anybody have strong opinions in favor of or against buttermilk in pancakes?
I think they taste better with buttermilk.
04/16/2012
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Antipova
I have a friend who is an expert. I have so much sugarbeet trivia! Minnesota, North Dakota, Wyoming pride!
Is it true that a person cannot tell the difference between sugarbeet sugar and cane sugar?

By the way, the deer around here love sugarbeets. I can toss some out (When I can find them) and in a matter of hours they come in to feast.
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova

I'm a big fan of buttermilk pancakes. That special tang that balances the flavor and keeps the syrup from feeling overwhelmingly sweet... just delicious.

A little personal background, too---my blend of cooking is very much a blend of both of my parents' approaches. My mom is a utility and efficienty-minded cook, who is always happy to make a substitution to make thing ready for mealtime without adding to the grocery bill. She's always trying new things, and seeing what shortcuts work. My dad, on the other hand, has very discerning tastes, and will only do things The Best Way, to taste like his grandmother or great-aunts cooked.

My cooking style is a blend of both of these---I take shortcuts only if they result in a product that's as good as my great grandmother or great great aunt could have cooked---or I'm very flexible, as long as the result is good enough for a really picky eater.

These pancakes are a recipe originally from my dad from his eastern European immigrant relatives. But the one substitution I make is a result of my mom's clever "let's not drive to town and back before dinner" substitutions. So I feel like this recipe showcases my "cooking roots" really well---along with being fast and simple and delicious.

Whole wheat contains 10 of the essential amino acids that human bodies must consume because we can't produce them ourselves.
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Is it true that a person cannot tell the difference between sugarbeet sugar and cane sugar?

By the way, the deer around here love sugarbeets. I can toss some out (When I can find them) and in a matter of hours they come in to feast.
I sure can't tell the difference. The refined product is pretty much identical.
04/16/2012
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Antipova

So will you ever buy waxy syrup again?
Probably not. ~muah~
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Probably not. ~muah~
Enjoy your newfound homemade skill!
04/16/2012
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
I think they taste better with buttermilk.
This! I can't stand buttermilk (bit of a story here) but I love it in pancakes
04/16/2012
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
This! I can't stand buttermilk (bit of a story here) but I love it in pancakes
share!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Say Say
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Originally posted by Antipova

So will you ever buy waxy syrup again?
Yep. There's just something about that petroleum-distillate tang that evokes memories of childhood.
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
share!
Yeah, share!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Say
Yep. There's just something about that petroleum-distillate tang that evokes memories of childhood.
You and your petroleum-soaked childhood.

I learned so much about ozokerite wax for my latest DR... stuff is so awesome! Although it probably smells funny....
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova

Antipova's Dad's Pancakes
2 eggs
1 1/2 cup buttermilk
1 1/2 cup flour
2 tsp. baking powder
1 tsp. baking soda
1/2 tsp. salt
2 Tbsp. sugar



Trivia: There are more than 200 cultivars of wheat grown in the United States (and even more abroad, each suited to unique climates, soil types, and challenges). Different cultivars of wheat are reported to tolerate alkali, bunt, disease, drought, herbicide, hydrogen flouride, high pH, laterite, low pH, mildew, salt, nematodes, phage, rust, smog, smut, and virus---so no matter what's troubling farmers in an area, there is usually a cultivar they can grow the next year to face the problem effectively.
04/16/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Antipova
You and your petroleum-soaked childhood.

I learned so much about ozokerite wax for my latest DR... stuff is so awesome! Although it probably smells funny....
what was the DR?
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
what was the DR?
Some Cake lip gloss. I'm wearing it right now
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova

I love buttermilk---and it's easy to always have some on hand, too. If you buy a fresh carton from the store (find out which day the milkman delivers) you actually get a pretty strong amount of live culture. You can heat some (half-gallon?) milk to 75F and add a quarter cup of your buttermilk, put it in a (sterilized) mason jar on your counter to culture for 12 hours or so. Pour this into icecube trays, and you have preserved the culture. If you want to make pancakes, just plunk an ice cube in an appropriate amount of milk the evening before.

Trivia:Hard red winter and spring wheats are ideal bread flours. while soft red wheats are best for biscuits or cakes. White winter and spring wheats are used in breakfast cereals, pastries, and crackers. All purpose flours are made of a blend of flours for neutral properties---if you want to make excellent cakes, buy cake flour with a finer grind a lower gluten content. If you want to make excellent bread, choose bread flour, or simply add some extra gluten to your all purpose flour. For pancakes, all purpose flour is just fine.
04/16/2012
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Antipova

I'm a big fan of buttermilk pancakes. That special tang that balances the flavor and keeps the syrup from feeling overwhelmingly sweet... just delicious.

A little personal background, too---my blend of cooking is very much a blend of ... more
See, that is what makes a cook a great one. I am willing to bet that the best cooks in the world have had to find other ingredients when something can't be found.

Much like a shade tree mechanic, eh?
04/16/2012
Contributor: ScarletFox ScarletFox
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Originally posted by Antipova

I love buttermilk---and it's easy to always have some on hand, too. If you buy a fresh carton from the store (find out which day the milkman delivers) you actually get a pretty strong amount of live culture. You can heat some (half-gallon?) ... more
Okay that trick is just awesome, I am going to seriously have to try it. I rarely use my ice cube trays as it is but this gives me a reason for them again.
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
See, that is what makes a cook a great one. I am willing to bet that the best cooks in the world have had to find other ingredients when something can't be found.

Much like a shade tree mechanic, eh?
EXACTLY! That's my mom all over!
04/16/2012
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Antipova

I love buttermilk---and it's easy to always have some on hand, too. If you buy a fresh carton from the store (find out which day the milkman delivers) you actually get a pretty strong amount of live culture. You can heat some (half-gallon?) ... more
How long will it last in the freezer?
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova

So, even though that's easy, I don't really do milk cultures during the winter. Partly because milk doesn't taste as good when cows switch from grass to silage, and partly because I am poor and I keep my house too cold for bacteria to act very effectively. So since I haven't gotten a fresh culture for this spring, I am going to use my mom's trick for this recipe.
04/16/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
I am so sorry guys, I ordered Chinese so I could hang and eat and they got it all wrong so I've spent the entire meeting chasing down delivery boys!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
How long will it last in the freezer?
I've had it work after ~ 3 months... I haven't tried it any longer than that, but I think the culture will be preserved for quite a long while.
04/16/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Ansley
I am so sorry guys, I ordered Chinese so I could hang and eat and they got it all wrong so I've spent the entire meeting chasing down delivery boys!
Glad you made it!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova

If you don't have buttermilk, and there is no culture in your freezer, but you still need some tang so your dad doesn't complain that the pancakes don't taste right? Just acidify your milk by chemical means instead of biological means. Take your 1.5 cups of milk, and add half a teaspoon of vinegar.

This is actually the difference between soft cheeses (like cream cheese and neufchatel) and Indian cheese (paneer). Soft cheeses use the same bacterial culture as buttermilk to separate the curds and whey, while paneer uses a straight acid like lemon juice. The result with a more pure acid like lemon juice or vinegar is a little bit more complete than the slower biological method, so adding vinegar just a few minutes before making the pancakes works just as well as culturing milk with mesophilic bacteria overnight.

But my mom didn't know that. She just made dad's pancake recipe with regular milk once, and dad complained that they didn't have the sour note. Next time, she added a drop of vinegar, and Dad proclaimed the results just fine.



Even though my photo doesn't show it well, you can see (when you do this yourself) the milk proteins coagulate a bit. Stir the vinegar in so everything looks homogeneous again.


04/16/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
Thank you!

Buttermilk makes a fantastic fried chicken, too!
04/16/2012
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Ansley
Thank you!

Buttermilk makes a fantastic fried chicken, too!
Oh I knowwwwww. I always let my chicken soak in buttermilk overnight... the acids tenderize it while the milk proteins make it richer... yummmmm.
04/16/2012
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Ansley
Thank you!

Buttermilk makes a fantastic fried chicken, too!
AWWW COME ON!!! whyd you have to bring up fried chicken. Im so hungry jkdlsafhdkashfklsf;hds someone put me out of my misery.
04/16/2012