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Community Planning Meeting: 12.15.11 - Everybody welcome!

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Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
Of course I think there should be something like that for editors too - I keep seeming some doozies and sending them to Sammi (I think that is who I send them to) because of multiple errors - like the editor never even read through it.
Unfortunately that's a possible hazard in any situation like that. But if you keep sending them to Sammi, she can make note of who should and shouldn't be allowed back in the program in the future.
12/15/2011
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
I guess too what I'm trying to say is that I wish there was some place where the moderators or whatever could say "We could use help here" (volunteer or whatever) so that folks would know how they could help.
That would be so helpful, I would join.
12/15/2011
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
Till I dunk you!

And about what Starkiller says - Antipova is an awesome editor - haven't had her as a mentor but wow. She's great.
It wouldn't bother me I gots tha goggles!
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
I guess too what I'm trying to say is that I wish there was some place where the moderators or whatever could say "We could use help here" (volunteer or whatever) so that folks would know how they could help.
I think this is basically the place where you voice what can be done, give ideas and see if you can help with say writing a tutorial or whatever. Thats why we have these planning meetings.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
I think greeting people is possible without there being a program for it. A lot of people see someone new and leave them a message and reach out to make them comfortable just because they are nice and want to help out. I think youve been doing a ... more
I think the benefit of an official program is that people may be leery that a stranger contacting them might have ulterior motives. Whereas if they knew EF was having someone contact them, they might be more at ease.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
TexasMama is too scared she'd keep other people from finding their own voice....or try to make them TM2 or something.

Its why I keep going back and forth on it.
I think you'd do a great job, and if it helps any, that's something I struggle with as a mentor all the time. I see reviewers pumping out what amounts to carbon copies of their mentors reviews and that bothers me because we all have different styles. It's hard to find the line between being helpful and changing how somebody writes.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Kindred
I think it would be less of a tutorial and more of a suggested ideas for mentors? The program currently allows mentors freedom to work with a student any way they like. I think we need to be careful and not necessarily standardize the program, not ... more
Yeah, not standardize it at all. But just having a little page that says

"Welcome to the mentor program. Some things that might help you out as you're mentoring:

-send your student a message before accepting the class to let them know they're really welcome. It can be a good idea to discuss
_____-whether the class will be fast-paced, slow-paced, or flexible
_____-how often you want to hear from each other
_____-whether feedback will be given or not (like I personally give a bunch of feedback, and never touch the review myself, right down to just including a list of typos that the student can fix)
_____-what aspect of reviewing the student wants to focus on

-your student will be more likely to stick around to graduation if they're active on the rest of the site, so if the student seems interested, show them
_____-your favorite parts of the forums
_____-the Naked Reader Book Club or Porn Club (as their desires lean toward) to help them get extra items to review
_____-other clubs, like Eden Lit and Eden Cooks, for fun
_____-Community parties and workshops
_____-

Ask if they have questions, have fun, etc
12/15/2011
Contributor: Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
I think greeting people is possible without there being a program for it. A lot of people see someone new and leave them a message and reach out to make them comfortable just because they are nice and want to help out. I think youve been doing a ... more
Thanks StarKiller but I guess the reason I'd like to see something a bit official is if everyone could get the same letter and it might say something like:

Welcome to Eden Fantasys. We're so glad you're here. In order to make your experience more enjoyable we've put together some information for you.

If you'd like to review products - click this link (takes you to ONE page which has all the various review types listed with brief description)

Not only do we have our forums on sex toys and topics but we also have the following clubs (brief description of each club and link to it)

Etc. etc.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Kindred
I think the benefit of an official program is that people may be leery that a stranger contacting them might have ulterior motives. Whereas if they knew EF was having someone contact them, they might be more at ease.
Thats true, I forget some people can be really leery of almost everything.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Kindred
I think the benefit of an official program is that people may be leery that a stranger contacting them might have ulterior motives. Whereas if they knew EF was having someone contact them, they might be more at ease.
Maybe she was talking about the people who reach out on new walls and in private messages? I know for a while I was welcoming people to the community as I found them, but I fell out of that habit unfortunately. Although rereading what you're saying, I can see that too. So maybe disregard this entire post, lol.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Unfortunately that's a possible hazard in any situation like that. But if you keep sending them to Sammi, she can make note of who should and shouldn't be allowed back in the program in the future.
I only do it if there are multiple errors in spelling, etc. For instance - "To" in the title instead of "too" and maybe half a dozen misspellings.

I think I've sent her three or four at most.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Antipova
Yeah, not standardize it at all. But just having a little page that says

"Welcome to the mentor program. Some things that might help you out as you're mentoring:

-send your student a message before accepting the class to let ... more
That's a fantabulous list!
12/15/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
We had also previously talked about some sort of post-graduation evaluation of mentors. Any new ideas on this?
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
I only do it if there are multiple errors in spelling, etc. For instance - "To" in the title instead of "too" and maybe half a dozen misspellings.

I think I've sent her three or four at most.
I know I've sent her a handful myself.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Maybe she was talking about the people who reach out on new walls and in private messages? I know for a while I was welcoming people to the community as I found them, but I fell out of that habit unfortunately. Although rereading what you're ... more
Yeah thats what I mean. I also see on people who post their first review people usually say welcome to eden, tell them about the mentorship program and other things. Which I think is really helpful and considerate.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
I guess too what I'm trying to say is that I wish there was some place where the moderators or whatever could say "We could use help here" (volunteer or whatever) so that folks would know how they could help.
Ah now, that's a good idea!

If we were having a "volunteers needed to" list, we could include "read and comment on reviews from new people on low-dollar-value items that often go without a comment," and also "nominate someone with less than 10 reviews for the rumble, and show them the rumble thread."
12/15/2011
Contributor: Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
"the Naked Reader Book Club or Porn Club (as their desires lean toward) to help them get extra items to review "

Now I'm lost! I didn't know those were free items to review....
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
"the Naked Reader Book Club or Porn Club (as their desires lean toward) to help them get extra items to review "

Now I'm lost! I didn't know those were free items to review....
I didnt get this months naked reader books. I never got an email.....
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
"the Naked Reader Book Club or Porn Club (as their desires lean toward) to help them get extra items to review "

Now I'm lost! I didn't know those were free items to review....
I didnt get this months naked reader books. I never got an email.....
12/15/2011
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Antipova
Ah now, that's a good idea!

If we were having a "volunteers needed to" list, we could include "read and comment on reviews from new people on low-dollar-value items that often go without a comment," and also ... more
For the rumble do you have to have a certain number of review before you can be nominated?
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Kindred
We had also previously talked about some sort of post-graduation evaluation of mentors. Any new ideas on this?
I haven't really come up with any. This is also something that we've discussed on our end as well, and it's been difficult to try and come up with something that would provide honest feedback of the mentor without it being really easy for the mentor to figure out which student left it. Maybe something like a survey that pops up somewhere after graduation? Or an email?
12/15/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
Yeah thats what I mean. I also see on people who post their first review people usually say welcome to eden, tell them about the mentorship program and other things. Which I think is really helpful and considerate.
I agree, but I've also seen people abuse this. For example, I've previously seen mentors do this to basically solicit students. Personally, I don't care for that, just seems a bit wrong to me.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
For the rumble do you have to have a certain number of review before you can be nominated?
No just someone has to think its worthy of being nominated.
12/15/2011
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
I didnt get this months naked reader books. I never got an email.....
Liz said in the last meeting that you can send her an email requesting it.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
Yeah thats what I mean. I also see on people who post their first review people usually say welcome to eden, tell them about the mentorship program and other things. Which I think is really helpful and considerate.
I got a lot of encouragement on my first review, and that's what helped convince me to stick around a few years ago, so I know how awesome a "welcome to the community, maybe check this out" message can be.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Antipova
Yeah, not standardize it at all. But just having a little page that says

"Welcome to the mentor program. Some things that might help you out as you're mentoring:

-send your student a message before accepting the class to let ... more
Oh, I forgot to add
_____-check how familiar with sex toys your student is, and what their areas of interest will be so you can scope out products for them
12/15/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Kindred
I agree, but I've also seen people abuse this. For example, I've previously seen mentors do this to basically solicit students. Personally, I don't care for that, just seems a bit wrong to me.
Ah I havent seen this but I believe it. People will do anything for points....it makes me sad.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
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Originally posted by Antipova
Ah now, that's a good idea!

If we were having a "volunteers needed to" list, we could include "read and comment on reviews from new people on low-dollar-value items that often go without a comment," and also ... more
Those are great ideas - but also - if I had known Julia was gonna be working on going through all the old meetings - I'd have offered to do it for her and save her time. I'm a speed reader - type 70 wpm and am home full time.

It might have saved her hours of work that she could put towards something else.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
"the Naked Reader Book Club or Porn Club (as their desires lean toward) to help them get extra items to review "

Now I'm lost! I didn't know those were free items to review....
Yep! You can get one book or up to two movies free each month in exchange for your review and attendance of the meetings. And you can participate in both if you want.
12/15/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
I didnt get this months naked reader books. I never got an email.....
Have you tried emailing Laurel again? I know one of the books was out of stock and just came back in.
12/15/2011