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#BuildaBetterEden - Community Planning: 06.16.2011

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Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
That being said, I try not to read the reviews of people who bang on my last gay nerve because I know I'm gonna be like, "This sucks, I could totally do a better job," even if it literally brings tears to my eyes.
Lol!
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
Hi everyone!


Vacci, just because this is a fancy new time, that doesn't mean you get to slack on the food department.
You can share some of my pancakes from IHOP. I can't eat another bite!
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
So is everyone excited for the weekend?!

<~~~Can't Wait face
What's so exciting this weekend?
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
On Saturday I've got a local parade I'm working, I'm Very excited
Your local Pride parade?
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Wondermom
I'm a homebody by nature, so it doesn't worry me that much.
I was until about 6 months ago. Now I loathe to just sit home all week. I'm SO ready to find a job!
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by sexyintexas
Oh Lord, just hand me a gun......
I was thinking the SAME thing!
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
OR even (also?) a button you can push that'll show you a random review.

Does that already exist? I feel like it might.
That's a great idea.
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
Well that's the problem, isn't it? I totally get miffed when I get a vote that I feel is unfair (I'd tell you to ask BBWTT about that, but she's not here. I'm STILL giving her hell about giving me a vote I thought was unfair), so ... more
AHEM... I didn't give you the lowest vote on that review, m'dear.

And YES... she gets TOTALLY cranky and pissy. The glares were... vicious.

I do agree that most people tend to upvote rather than downvote. It's almost as if we're a little gunshy of the reaction of voting "somewhat useful" or even "Not useful" Sometimes reviews are NOT useful. And I don't think we should always have to justify or comment on why we think the review was less than "good."
06/16/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I was until about 6 months ago. Now I loathe to just sit home all week. I'm SO ready to find a job!
Its easier for me to be home with my disability, I can lay down when I need to etc
06/16/2011
Contributor: Wondermom Wondermom
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
AHEM... I didn't give you the lowest vote on that review, m'dear.

And YES... she gets TOTALLY cranky and pissy. The glares were... vicious.

I do agree that most people tend to upvote rather than downvote. It's almost as ... more
I don't upvote if I'm feeling gunshy, I just don't vote at all.
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Wondermom
I don't upvote if I'm feeling gunshy, I just don't vote at all.
Right and then the problem is that people get upvoted far too frequently and don't do anything to improve their reviews.
06/16/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
AHEM... I didn't give you the lowest vote on that review, m'dear.

And YES... she gets TOTALLY cranky and pissy. The glares were... vicious.

I do agree that most people tend to upvote rather than downvote. It's almost as ... more
Still.

Did I MENTION I'm BETRAYED?
06/16/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
Still.

Did I MENTION I'm BETRAYED?
AHEM......



Darling, there's no need to feel betrayed. I was being honest. It was, by your own definition, not an OMG-blow-me-out-of-the -water-I-just-witnesse d-something-amazing review. It was a GOOD review, but I didn't have some kind of epiphany, and it didn't help me decide if I would want it or not.

Not like I rated you "Worth Reading" or even "Somewhat" I gave you a Useful. SHEESH!

Peace offering????
06/16/2011
Contributor: Bunnycups Bunnycups
I just read the entire meeting. Sorry I couldn't make it earlier. Thanks to everyone who who sent in donations during this meeting! You guys are terrific!!
06/16/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
Hey everybody... I hadn't really been aware of this when it was going on, but BBWTT mentioned that you all were discussing the review showcasing methods. I had written this over in this thread, but if the decisionmakers are over here, I wanted to share it with you and hear your thoughts too.

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I'm curious... I know I've briefly mentioned this a couple of times, but other than Selective Sensualist and P'Gell worrying that reviewers will start awarding products more 5 and 1 star ratings, I don't think anyone else has. Does this make sense to others, or am I barking up a tree with nothing in it?

The current algorithm is using simple means---I think we all agree that this is less useful than using weighted means would be.

The current algorithm also gives precedence to 5-star or 1-star reviews, and I don't think that's very helpful for customers. Personally, before I ever became a reviewer, I noticed that 2, 3, and 4 star reviews were more likely to have meaty information than 1 and 5 star reviews. Of course, on Eden, the baseline review is much better than the baseline on someplace like Amazon, but I still find myself preferring to read 2, 3, and 4 star reviews much of the time.

And then, even more than my own personal preference for middlin' reviews, showcasing the 5 and 1 star reviews preferentially means that we're hiding some of the most useful reviews.

Take the hibiscus swirl vibe (because that one has a *lot* of reviews, and they're well-spread in the histogram.)


The negative review currently showcased is this review:

1 star review (there is only one 1 star review):
-1 EU, 1 U, 4 SU votes.

Other negative reviews possible:

2 star reviews (there are 7, I'm just showing the top 3):
- 1 EU vote
- 6 EU, 1 SU votes
- 4 EU, 2 U votes

3 star reviews (there are 6, I'm just showing the top 3):
- 16 EU votes
- 7 EU votes
- 7 EU, 2 U votes


So if I was a customer wanting to see a negative perspective on the Hibiscus Swirl vibe, would I want the 1 star review to be showcased, or would I want the 3 star review with 16 EU votes? Bear in mind of course that anybody who wants to take more than a cursory glance can still go and see the 1 star, 2 star, or 3 star reviews with a little diligent clicking. But if our intent is to give the casual browser the most useful positive and negative reviews without having to do extra clicking?

What do you guys think?
06/19/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Antipova
Hey everybody... I hadn't really been aware of this when it was going on, but BBWTT mentioned that you all were discussing the review showcasing methods. I had written this over in this thread, but if the decisionmakers are over here, I wanted to ... more
Aaaaand after reading through it, maybe this wasn't the perfect place afterall? Oh well. Sorry, all.
06/19/2011