I completely respect the fact that "no" absolutely means no in non-BDSM contexts, but since my sub and I occasionally do resistance play (bordering on consensual non-consent at times), "no" just doesn't work for us. I understand "only saying no when you damn well mean it," but even in non-resistance scenarios, my sub will occasionally blurt out a "no!" (in the same way that she might yell "ow!" after an unexpectedly hard spank). However, if we haven't explicitly discussed doing resistance play for a particular session and I hear a string of repeated "no"s, I'll slow down and check in just to make sure (after all, it's not impossible for someone to forget a safe word).
Is "no" a safeword?
07/17/2012
I think No can be your safe word if you establish it with your partner first. I understand what others are saying by No shouldn't be the safe word and it makes sense for them. However, if you have talked to your partner and said NO means NO, so NO is my safe word. Then it's a pretty good word to pick. Personally, no is my safe word. No means NO and if I have things going on that I don't want; the first thing I am going to say is NO! So, to me it's a great safe word. But if you have the type of relationship were no doesn't mean no, then I would pick something else.
07/17/2012
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For me it would have to be a different word to stop the play as for me "no" can actually mean "yes" when it comes to playing with my dom. So the safeword we use is "red", like a traffic light... if I want it harder or more of it, then I'll use "green", haven't really used much of "green" though.
Originally posted by
SubmissiveFeminist
I'm a submissive, and damn proud of it but I tend to never have to establish a safeword. In my book, no is ALWAYS no. I'm all for having fun and even resisting but my Dominant needs to be aware that I will only say no if I damn-well mean it.
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I'm a submissive, and damn proud of it but I tend to never have to establish a safeword. In my book, no is ALWAYS no. I'm all for having fun and even resisting but my Dominant needs to be aware that I will only say no if I damn-well mean it.
Is this something that goes for you? Do you have established safewords? What are they? If your sub said "no" or if you told your Dominant "no" would you/they respect it or does it need to be a specific word to stop the scene? less
Is this something that goes for you? Do you have established safewords? What are they? If your sub said "no" or if you told your Dominant "no" would you/they respect it or does it need to be a specific word to stop the scene? less
However if my dom and I were to establish the fact that "no" is the safeword then he would respect that as the safeword, but we never use "no" as a safeword.
07/17/2012
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That's actually a really good system
Originally posted by
Mia.The.Wonder.Slut
"No" is on general a really bad safe word. My partner and I picked one that would normally never be said during sex or play: "cookies". Also, the BDSM group I play with has a pre-established safe word system. If a dom should ever
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"No" is on general a really bad safe word. My partner and I picked one that would normally never be said during sex or play: "cookies". Also, the BDSM group I play with has a pre-established safe word system. If a dom should ever feel uncertain about the comfort level, he/she will say "status check," to which the sub will respond with "green" which means everything is good, "yellow" which means it's okay but it's pushing the boundaries, or "red" which means no I'm not comfortable with that. Also, if the sub feels uncomfortable at anytime, he/she can say "red" without being prompted with a status check, and that action ends. It's a really good system and I recommend it for beginners
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07/18/2012
'No' is not a safeword for me. A big part of why I go into d/s scenes is to explore very dark, personal territory and that includes graphic language, crying, and repeatedly saying 'no'.
If you are in a safe playspace, this needs to be discussed. This is the only ONLY time that 'no' doesn't mean No (only after careful negotiation, and only during a scene).
I'll chime in again, I recommend the stoplight safewords. Check in with your partner periodically, with the words 'green' to continue, 'yellow' to pause/reframe and 'red' for an all out, immediate stop. If you are bound and unable to speak, holding up 1, 2 or 3 fingers for a specific amount of time (three pulses, five seconds, etc). Its important to be able to steer a scene if it starts to turn before you even have to hit the eject button. Having to stop a scene is a failure of communication on both partner's sides; a medium-level safeword can help prevent that from happening.
If you are in a safe playspace, this needs to be discussed. This is the only ONLY time that 'no' doesn't mean No (only after careful negotiation, and only during a scene).
I'll chime in again, I recommend the stoplight safewords. Check in with your partner periodically, with the words 'green' to continue, 'yellow' to pause/reframe and 'red' for an all out, immediate stop. If you are bound and unable to speak, holding up 1, 2 or 3 fingers for a specific amount of time (three pulses, five seconds, etc). Its important to be able to steer a scene if it starts to turn before you even have to hit the eject button. Having to stop a scene is a failure of communication on both partner's sides; a medium-level safeword can help prevent that from happening.
07/18/2012
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In my bedroom NO means no. The thing is if a play partner says no then all activity stops and we figure out what went wrong. That's when the cuddle time starts.
Originally posted by
SubmissiveFeminist
I'm a submissive, and damn proud of it but I tend to never have to establish a safeword. In my book, no is ALWAYS no. I'm all for having fun and even resisting but my Dominant needs to be aware that I will only say no if I damn-well mean it.
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I'm a submissive, and damn proud of it but I tend to never have to establish a safeword. In my book, no is ALWAYS no. I'm all for having fun and even resisting but my Dominant needs to be aware that I will only say no if I damn-well mean it.
Is this something that goes for you? Do you have established safewords? What are they? If your sub said "no" or if you told your Dominant "no" would you/they respect it or does it need to be a specific word to stop the scene? less
Is this something that goes for you? Do you have established safewords? What are they? If your sub said "no" or if you told your Dominant "no" would you/they respect it or does it need to be a specific word to stop the scene? less
07/18/2012
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This.
Originally posted by
Princess-Kayla ♥
I don't think that "no" should ever be a safeword. Sometimes when you just say no, you don't really mean it. Or it's not as easy to hear. That's the whole point of safewords, I think.
07/18/2012
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I agree. I don't see "no" as a suitable safeword.
Originally posted by
Princess-Kayla ♥
I don't think that "no" should ever be a safeword. Sometimes when you just say no, you don't really mean it. Or it's not as easy to hear. That's the whole point of safewords, I think.
07/19/2012
I think that NO is too common of a word to use, and can be taken out of context to easily in the heat of the moment. I would use something very uncommon like Tube Socks or Spaghetti...something that would not be used at all in a sexual situation.
07/19/2012
I think a safe word should be distinct and easily recognizable to ensure an almost instant stop to anything that's uncomfortable or potentially dangerous.
07/19/2012
I don't think it makes a good word. It's to easy to say. But if that's the word that you want to use then it's your decision to use it.
07/19/2012
"No" is a safeword if no other safeword has been established. If you plan on saying "no" or "stop" during a scene, be sure your partner knows you're not withdrawing consent. Talk about safewords first, and always be respectful of whoever you're with.
07/27/2012
it shouldnt be
07/27/2012
No should never be a safe word because its fun to say no and have the dom keep going.
07/27/2012
For me it is certainly not a safeword, only because I have a habit of actually saying it during scenes when I am not in my head the word tends to come out of me when I am being pushed but its not a 'oh god this is too much or no I don't want this' kind of push. So we use something I would never ever say no matter what the context of the scene.
07/30/2012
It is iffy territory, My sub is bratty she says no all the time, however as a dom I feel it's my job to know when No certainly does mean no. If you've crossed over the line badly you can't expect a person to remember their safe word.
07/30/2012
It CAN be, but you should be careful that it's so commonly used in normal conversation. ("Did you do your chores today?" "No...") I don't have an official safeword because I don't often do play that needs one and my partner is very sensitive to my nonverbal cues, but most will respond to red and yellow.
08/03/2012
I think it depends on your play and your dynamic.
Our safeword is always RED because its very commonly used and the only safeword used at the play parties we attend.
We do some consensual non-consent sometimes and no definitely does not mean no in those situations.
But its not for everybody.
Our safeword is always RED because its very commonly used and the only safeword used at the play parties we attend.
We do some consensual non-consent sometimes and no definitely does not mean no in those situations.
But its not for everybody.
08/03/2012
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I've run into my sub saying no when I went to move onto something different, and it made me freak out and stop all together. I think establishing a stronger word, say STOP is much better.
Originally posted by
SubmissiveFeminist
I'm a submissive, and damn proud of it but I tend to never have to establish a safeword. In my book, no is ALWAYS no. I'm all for having fun and even resisting but my Dominant needs to be aware that I will only say no if I damn-well mean it.
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I'm a submissive, and damn proud of it but I tend to never have to establish a safeword. In my book, no is ALWAYS no. I'm all for having fun and even resisting but my Dominant needs to be aware that I will only say no if I damn-well mean it.
Is this something that goes for you? Do you have established safewords? What are they? If your sub said "no" or if you told your Dominant "no" would you/they respect it or does it need to be a specific word to stop the scene? less
Is this something that goes for you? Do you have established safewords? What are they? If your sub said "no" or if you told your Dominant "no" would you/they respect it or does it need to be a specific word to stop the scene? less
08/04/2012
I'm a dominant and have been into bdsm for almost ten years. I've never had an established safeword with any of my subs. I also have always taken a long time to get to know my subs and very slowly work up to harder play. I'm not truly comfortable pushing limits until I can tell just by looking at them where they are emotionally.
As a dominant I am not comfortable with the idea of no meaning anything other than no.
Of course, part of what I like is that they like me doing these things and being in control. An indicator that they aren't enjoying my control would kind of be a turn off, I think.
Maybe that makes me sound like a wussy Domme, but trust me, I have brought many a man to tears!
As a dominant I am not comfortable with the idea of no meaning anything other than no.
Of course, part of what I like is that they like me doing these things and being in control. An indicator that they aren't enjoying my control would kind of be a turn off, I think.
Maybe that makes me sound like a wussy Domme, but trust me, I have brought many a man to tears!
08/04/2012
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