Or maybe I say, “Let’s smash this soft, ripe, red, plump little piece of produce over your torso and rub it all over until the juice dribbles down your ribs and legs and then let’s find something creamier or stickier to mix with it and get down to some messy foodplay sex.”
I mean, I wouldn’t say that, because a tomato is way too acidic and is too watery for me to see any fun foodplay potential. Now, you start talking chocolate cream pies or a big bottle of clover honey or…
*ahem*
Actually, there is a reason I present a very atypical sexual scenario above. Because, as I threatened…that is…I mean…foreshadowed in my previous column, “Coming Out, Letting Out”, I want to spend this month’s column talking about kinks vs. fetishes and how—at least in my mind—they differ from each other. And you know, just for the hell of it, I’m even going to tap into the side of me that writes clinical stuff to pay the bills and throw in another term: paraphilia. Triple-play of non-vanilla sexual interests, baby!
Before I go on, let me answer the obvious question: “Smokedawg, why are you trying to define and differentiate kink and fetish? Don’t we have enough labels separating us in life?”
You’re absolutely right, whoever you are (probably one of those voices in my head). We do have too many labels in life. Or, perhaps, we simply use them wrong. To me, labels can be absolutely vital at times. How else do we find people of like interests if we cannot categorize that interest? While labels can be misused, they are also important for locating and sorting people. Prioritizing them, if you will.
Also, as I noted in my previous column, if you have a heavy interest in something kinky, you need to gauge how important that kinky stuff is to you and your sexual needs and desires before you go getting into relationships. Because you need to figure out whether you are going to have to fess up to your kink with a significant other and how important it is for your partner to participate in that naughtiness that you crave.
And so, in my opinion, it’s useful to know whether you have a kink, a fetish or a paraphilia.
I mean, I wouldn’t say that, because a tomato is way too acidic and is too watery for me to see any fun foodplay potential. Now, you start talking chocolate cream pies or a big bottle of clover honey or…
*ahem*
Actually, there is a reason I present a very atypical sexual scenario above. Because, as I threatened…that is…I mean…foreshadowed in my previous column, “Coming Out, Letting Out”, I want to spend this month’s column talking about kinks vs. fetishes and how—at least in my mind—they differ from each other. And you know, just for the hell of it, I’m even going to tap into the side of me that writes clinical stuff to pay the bills and throw in another term: paraphilia. Triple-play of non-vanilla sexual interests, baby!
Before I go on, let me answer the obvious question: “Smokedawg, why are you trying to define and differentiate kink and fetish? Don’t we have enough labels separating us in life?”
You’re absolutely right, whoever you are (probably one of those voices in my head). We do have too many labels in life. Or, perhaps, we simply use them wrong. To me, labels can be absolutely vital at times. How else do we find people of like interests if we cannot categorize that interest? While labels can be misused, they are also important for locating and sorting people. Prioritizing them, if you will.
Also, as I noted in my previous column, if you have a heavy interest in something kinky, you need to gauge how important that kinky stuff is to you and your sexual needs and desires before you go getting into relationships. Because you need to figure out whether you are going to have to fess up to your kink with a significant other and how important it is for your partner to participate in that naughtiness that you crave.
And so, in my opinion, it’s useful to know whether you have a kink, a fetish or a paraphilia.
I strongly disagree with the definitions you've provided here.
A kink is a sexual practice that's deemed abnormal by society at large.
A fetish, in the strictest sense of the word is something you REQUIRE
Also, this places each category in a strange hierarchy.
I strongly disagree with the definitions you've provided here.
A kink is a sexual practice that's deemed abnormal by society at large.
A fetish, in the strictest sense of the word is something you REQUIRE
Also, this places each category in a strange hierarchy.
BAH... stupid new keyboard. lemme try this again.
A kink is a sexual practice that's deemed abnormal by society at large, which is fun because means what's normal vs abnormal changes based on things like social norms, political ideologies, what the media is in love with, etc.
A fetish, in the strictest sense of the word, is something you REQUIRE in order to orgasm. But really, no one's that strict anymore and it's come to mean something akin to a paraphilia; something non-normative that sexually arouses you.
That's all a paraphila is - getting turned out by something that isn't 'normally' sexually arousing. As for the DSM; it's paraphila's are only a disorder if they have a negative impact on your life. If you're down with you smoking fetish and it's not controlling your life, you're a-okay.
And here's my big beef with your article - the strange hierarchy you've placed on things. Kink, not that big a deal, fetish, bigger deal, paraphilia - must have - it's not right, and not simply because you've defined the words incorrectly.
Knowing how important your kinks, fetishes, and paraphilia's to you own personal sexual satisfaction is important for many of the reasons you've listed, but to suggest it's not that big a deal if a kink isn't being met because it's *just* a kink? No. For some people, it's a really big deal. For some people there paraphila's aren't that big a deal; especially if they've got a lot of them.
You don't have to pass some magic category bar before you're allowed to ask that your sexual desires be met.
^^lol. offended?
i thought it was a good article!
KinkyNicki92 ... thanks much
Heather Elizabeth ... you are, of course, to take all kinds of issue with my definitions.
However, I don't find that all people with fetishes...and almost all of them self-define as fetishists when I encounter them...actually REQUIRE their kinky interests. Some do, but they are very much in the minority.
I still maintain that the biggest difference between kink and fetish is that the former isn't a requirement OR need...fetish is a need but not an overriding one...and paraphilia is when things get clinical potentially.
The problem with the definition of fetish isn't MINE but (in my opinion) the fact that the psych community co-opted it and made it clinical.
Much like homosexual folks reclaimed "queer" and black people claim the right to use the N-word while looking askance at non-blacks who use it...so too do I and many people with fetishes want that word back.
I'm not going to force kinksters to use the label fetishist, but I damn well will not continue to let fetish be seen as something all consuming.
I don't know about you and whether you have a fetish. But I DO. And like most people I've known who also have fetishes, we don't see them the way a lot of other folks want to.
Again, it's your right to disagree. Been a while since I've gotten someone's hackles up, so it's all good, because I worry I'm not doing my job if someone doesn't fire back at me.
Also, Heather, I don't recall saying it isn't a big deal if a kink doesn't get met. I simply said it wasn't likely to be a deal-breaker or make you feel strong resentment in most cases. I also acknowledged that in all these definitions, there is a spectrum, and some have "it" (whatever "it" happens to be, kink, fetish, paraphilia) to varying degrees.
One more thing (sometimes, these things occur to me over time...sorry).
I think, Heather, that you let off the DSM folks a bit too quickly. They originally took "fetish" and made the desire for non-standard things a clinical problem inherently.
Then they backed off and created paraphilia.
Now they seem to be backing off more and saying that paraphilias aren't always clinical problems.
However, there is no reason for a term like that and a classification to exist in the DSM *unless* it is seen as likely being a problem. That's the purpose of the DSM: to classify psychological problems of various degrees.
Remember that once homosexuality was considered a DSM disorder.
For something to be in the DSM as a classification and *not* be seen as something that tends to get in the way of life is a bit contradictory.
I'd be afraid of being bitten by a deadly spider. But I'm not afraid of spiders. The former is prudence; the latter is a phobia. Phobias don't always cause serious challenges in life, but they are clearly a disorder because they are irrational.
Most people who self-define as having fetishes, in my experience, don't have challenges on a regular basis. They don't always need the object of their desire. Sometimes when they want it and are denied, it's a problem and sometimes it's little more than mild disappointment and irritation.
It may be critical in their sexual identity, but NOT required.
I don't see people who identify as kinky usually using it as a sexually defining thing. In fact, most "kinky" people I've encountered seems to be a bit alarmed at the idea of being seen as having a fetish.
And this, again, is why I want the term fetish back. It's an important classification, and it needs to be recognized while also being de-stigmatized. The DSM folks realized they were on shaky ground in modern times to keep using it. They abandoned it...we fetishists are taking it back.
Or at least I hope we do.
I will add just a little bit of two-sense here as a student training in psychology: The evolution of the DSM is also reflective of the evolution of our culture. Anyone familiar with Kinsey? When he was doing his research (which by the way was controversial because no one had done it before and know one knew about how to do it), things were fine until he suggested that homosexuality was normal and women enjoyed orgasms before marriage. The DSM evolves as the minds who create it evolve. As more older Caucasian men who want to turn gay people straight die, there is room made for us to be more progressive and culturally sensitive.
I would agree that paraphilia's are not suggested to be bad until someone is harmed or the person who "has" the paraphilia is distressed by it. There are some where there is always harm, i.e. pedophilia. At any rate, psychologists generally operate on the principle that distress must be caused to the person who is dealing with whatever issue and/or someone is being harmed by the behavior. Most people I believe look at kinks as preferences, fetishes as preferences that have a strong need-fulfilling drive, and paraphilias a preferences driven by compulsion.
Yes the green light, yellow light, red light may be a simplistic analogy, but it is helpful for people to understand where some things toe a fine line. Hence why those involved in BDSM have rules and contracts.
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Thanks, Ayumi...I think your capsule definitions at the end of your second paragraph are actually pretty close to what I was saying.
I agree that the DSM evolves, and in no way seek to denigrate psychological and psychiatric care (I actually am a healthcare-market journalist). In most ways, the DSM has improved, but it still stumbles at times (obviously; humans are involved)...and I think they're still wrestling with sexual issues in the DSM. The cover-your-ass style of phrasing for paraphilia in the coming edition makes me think they still aren't sure where to draw lines for dysfunction and non-dysfunction where sex is concerned.å