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Naked Reader Book Club Discussion: IN SLEEPING BEAUTY'S BED and FAIRY TALE LUST (October 12, 7-11 PM EST)

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Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I love seeing stories like Goldie Locks or the Three Little Pigs. While not truly fairy tales they are totally devoid of the sexy element that was once inherent in them. Besides I always wondered what made the beds "too hard" or "too ... more
That would be really interesting. In a slightly twisted way, lol
10/12/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
There are some AWESOME stories in this new collection, if I do say so myself. Shapeshifters, succubi, fairies, angels, demons, ghosts... it's just delicious. I think I like it even better than Fairy Tale Lust because the stories are a little ... more
DROOOOOOOL
10/12/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Jul!a
I think Aladdin would be an interesting one.
Oh... Aladdin and a magic carpet! Agreed!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Yeah, it was sort of funny, but I had been looking forward to reading that particular story (thinking it would be hot), so wound up feeling grumpy over it. Rapunzel rapping to a camo-clad hunter just didn't work for me at all.
That was the most disturbing "rap" I had ever seen...it looked so darned out of place in the story! The fact that it was a silly abyssmal rap made it worse!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I was thinking that as well, I wrote a version where rapunzel was actually a siren and a sort of succubus. She would sing and then fuck her visitors to death. Now THAT was hawt!
Now *that* is a version I'd love to read!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That was the most disturbing "rap" I had ever seen...it looked so darned out of place in the story! The fact that it was a silly abyssmal rap made it worse!
LOL! That's what Alan said; "Could they have at least used a sexy rap?"
10/12/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Now *that* is a version I'd love to read!
I'd have to hunt it down. maybe if there's an open call for a story like this or EF gets it's story area finished...
10/12/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
LOL! That's what Alan said; "Could they have at least used a sexy rap?"
Or one that made sense? Or mentioned where she would have heard such a piece of filth having been locked up all her life. I just couldn't see where the author was going with that one. Then he turns out to only be interested in frottage....just weird.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Tori Rebel Tori Rebel
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
LOL! That's what Alan said; "Could they have at least used a sexy rap?"
Maybe she was just going for a surprising twist? There was something of a surprise in every story.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Or one that made sense? Or mentioned where she would have heard such a piece of filth having been locked up all her life. I just couldn't see where the author was going with that one. Then he turns out to only be interested in frottage....just weird.
Very true. At least the author made up for it in the other stories though.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
Me too! Because the version in "In Sleeping Beauty's Bed" was the only story in that book that really disappointed me. I'd like to see it retold so it was actually erotic.
I think Rapunzel is my favorite story and I didn't have one in Fairy Tale Lust. Hmm... it really may be time to start thinking about FTL 2!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
I think Rapunzel is my favorite story and I didn't have one in Fairy Tale Lust. Hmm... it really may be time to start thinking about FTL 2!
YES!!!!!!




10/12/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
I was thinking that as well, I wrote a version where rapunzel was actually a siren and a sort of succubus. She would sing and then fuck her visitors to death. Now THAT was hawt!
Oh, very nice!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Jul!a
YES!!!!!!




Thank you for your support!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
I think Rapunzel is my favorite story and I didn't have one in Fairy Tale Lust. Hmm... it really may be time to start thinking about FTL 2!
Oooh please do! We'd definitely buy the next version as well!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Andromeda Andromeda
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
Speaking of which... and I don't think anyone has picked up the thread yet: what story would YOU like to see retold?
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.... hehehehe. More dwarf action!

Alice in Wonderland (not quite a fairy tale, but I could do soooo much with it)

Pinocchio (LAWL)

Rapunzel (I have a storyline in mind)
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Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
So, how do you feel about fairy tales that are retold in contemporary language (such as Craig Sorensen's riff on the Ugly Duckling in "Ducking")?

What about original fairy tales that include elements of the classics but are completely new?

Finally, what do you think are the current "classics" of the fairy tale genre? Do you think novels like Twilight fit the fairy tale genre?
10/12/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
So, how do you feel about fairy tales that are retold in contemporary language (such as Craig Sorensen's riff on the Ugly Duckling in "Ducking")?

What about original fairy tales that include elements of the classics but are ... more
I actually liked the very modern twist on The Ugly Duckling.

I think that Twilight can sort of go into fairy tale, just for the vampires, but it would have to be in a subsection of sorts.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by Andromeda
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves.... hehehehe. More dwarf action!

Alice in Wonderland (not quite a fairy tale, but I could do soooo much with it)

Pinocchio (LAWL)

Rapunzel (I have a storyline in mind)
Pinocchio is an interesting one to contemplate as an erotic fairy tale.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Andromeda Andromeda
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
So, how do you feel about fairy tales that are retold in contemporary language (such as Craig Sorensen's riff on the Ugly Duckling in "Ducking")?

What about original fairy tales that include elements of the classics but are ... more
While I enjoyed some of the more contemporary tales (the little mermaid one comes to mind), I definitely prefer the ones that are told within the world of the original fairy tale. I can't explain why, although Freud's theory of the Uncanny comes to mind.

I'm not quite sure many modern narratives fit into the genre of "fairy tale", as a fairy tale is generally a short story with some sort of moral lesson. So, I don't think any novels fit into the category.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Tori Rebel Tori Rebel
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
So, how do you feel about fairy tales that are retold in contemporary language (such as Craig Sorensen's riff on the Ugly Duckling in "Ducking")?

What about original fairy tales that include elements of the classics but are ... more
I don't think Twilight fits...but maybe just because it's entirely on my nerves. But the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe could easily be considered a modern fairy tale, and I'm sure some mythical erotica could be concocted of it.
10/12/2010
Contributor: clp clp
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
So, how do you feel about fairy tales that are retold in contemporary language (such as Craig Sorensen's riff on the Ugly Duckling in "Ducking")?

What about original fairy tales that include elements of the classics but are ... more
I personally prefer new stories told in a classic way. That's not to say I don't like modern retellings, just that I am usually drawn to the either first.

I am on the fence about the current classics, though. While I personally don't understand Twilight (and am thus resistant!), I do love Harry Potter and I would say that he definitely counts as a fantastic fairy telling.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Andromeda Andromeda
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
I think Rapunzel is my favorite story and I didn't have one in Fairy Tale Lust. Hmm... it really may be time to start thinking about FTL 2!
Kristina, have you by any chance read Transformation s by Anne Sexton? Toooootally gives an interesting spin on Rapunzel, and i think could make a very hot piece of erotica. In fact, I may start writing it
10/12/2010
Contributor: Andromeda Andromeda
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Originally posted by clp
I personally prefer new stories told in a classic way. That's not to say I don't like modern retellings, just that I am usually drawn to the either first.

I am on the fence about the current classics, though. While I personally ... more
See, I don't consider HP or Chronicles of Narnia or any full-length piece to fit into the genre. To me, fairy tales and fantasy novels are separate things, even if they're only divided in terms of length.
10/12/2010
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
So, how do you feel about fairy tales that are retold in contemporary language (such as Craig Sorensen's riff on the Ugly Duckling in "Ducking")?

What about original fairy tales that include elements of the classics but are ... more
Hmm... tough questions. It's not bad if they're written in contemporary language, but for me it does take away some of the fairy tale element. Ducking could have easily been in an anthology that had nothing to do with fairy tales.

As for original fairy tales, well anything original is always worth reading.

Funny you mentioned Twilight because I just read the first two books this past weekend (yes, I'm late on the bandwagon). I wouldn't call it a fairy tale, no. More like a paranormal drama. Now I'm racking my brain trying to think of a modern story that rings like a fairy tale... The Princess Diaries, maybe?
10/12/2010
Contributor: deadpoet deadpoet
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Originally posted by Andromeda
See, I don't consider HP or Chronicles of Narnia or any full-length piece to fit into the genre. To me, fairy tales and fantasy novels are separate things, even if they're only divided in terms of length.
I agree
10/12/2010
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by Kristina Wright
Pinocchio is an interesting one to contemplate as an erotic fairy tale.
OMG that would be hilarious! "Lie to me, lie to me!" LOL
10/12/2010
Contributor: Kristina Wright Kristina Wright
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Originally posted by clp
I personally prefer new stories told in a classic way. That's not to say I don't like modern retellings, just that I am usually drawn to the either first.

I am on the fence about the current classics, though. While I personally ... more
I think Harry Potter fits the "quest story" motif found in most fairy tales, absolutely!
10/12/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Tori Rebel
I don't think Twilight fits...but maybe just because it's entirely on my nerves. But the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe could easily be considered a modern fairy tale, and I'm sure some mythical erotica could be concocted of it.
Actually CS Lewis wrote his Narnia series to teach his niece Lucy about the Bible so it entirely fits the fairytale definition in that it is a cautionary/morality tale meant to educate (not that I'm saying the Bible is a fairytale, but the definition does fit)
10/12/2010
Contributor: Andromeda Andromeda
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
OMG that would be hilarious! "Lie to me, lie to me!" LOL
Yes! Oh I bet the Blue Fairy would have fun with him...
10/12/2010