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Contributor: Owl Identified Owl Identified
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Am I the only one that doesn't think this is long enough to hit the prostate on most male bodied folks? It's cute but...seems pretty impractical. Thoughts?
03/02/2010
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Contributor: Sir Sir
It does look a bit small, but I believe that there are toys even shorter that have worked. Mr. Sauce or Jimbo should help with this.
03/02/2010
Contributor: Owl Identified Owl Identified
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Originally posted by Sir
It does look a bit small, but I believe that there are toys even shorter that have worked. Mr. Sauce or Jimbo should help with this.
Agreed!
03/02/2010
Contributor: LiftedUp LiftedUp
Hey guys,
I just found this thread, after completing my review for the Talon. Much like you are, I was very skeptical about the size of this toy once I actually saw it. I have used TONS of toys for anal/p-spot play, and never had any success from ones this small (not even from the aneros ones I've tried). Imagine my surprise when this one slid in and hit the spot immediately!

Even worse though, image my surprise when the whole toy was later sucked up inside, as the design for the perineum tab on this thing is TERRIBLE!

The bad news, this toy is completely unsafe, and I won't be using it again. The good news is, that the 10 minutes I did use it for has restored my hope in small sized p-spot toys.

I guess the Aneros I've tried were just not ANGLED properly for my anatomy. The Talon was... but I won't be using it again, and don't recommend that you guys do either. If Evolved Novelties redesigned the base, it might be another story though.

Anyhow, for more details, my review is here.
03/12/2010
Contributor: Owl Identified Owl Identified
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Originally posted by LiftedUp
Hey guys,
I just found this thread, after completing my review for the Talon. Much like you are, I was very skeptical about the size of this toy once I actually saw it. I have used TONS of toys for anal/p-spot play, and never had any success ... more
I actually just saw your review. I had a funny feeling about this one, although I'm surprised it wasn't that size that made it a dud. Too bad, too, because it's awfully pretty. Maybe Evolved would re-work this one and bring it back with a bigger tab. Thank you for your review
03/12/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
I received one to review as well, and it does hit the spot. The handsfree stimulation isn't as strong as some of the other toys, but it was very pleasurable. I didn't have a problem with the tail slipping inside during hands-free use, but I was very careful about wiggling it by hand because it definitely could slip in if you pushed it too much, and then the curve would make it difficult and/or uncomfortable to remove.
03/12/2010
Contributor: Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
So, are there instructions telling the user which end is which? My initial reaction would be that the small end would go in and try to stimulate the prostate. This situation with soft silicone hasn't done a very good job of prostate stimulation in my experience, so I'm not saying that it would work better, but it might be safer although a flange would be better, regardless. LiftedUp used it the other way with the big end going in first and it sounds like ScottA used it that way as well.
03/13/2010
Contributor: LiftedUp LiftedUp
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
So, are there instructions telling the user which end is which? My initial reaction would be that the small end would go in and try to stimulate the prostate. This situation with soft silicone hasn't done a very good job of prostate stimulation ... more
Jimbo,
Thanks for the suggestion, but if you saw the Talon, you'd know better! lol. The smaller of the protrusions on the toy is so small, that it'd never reach beyond the rectum, and is so thin you wouldn't feel it, and it'd fall right out. If you saw it, you'd understand. lol.
03/13/2010
Contributor: Jimbo Jones Jimbo Jones
I just looked at it on the 1:1 actual size and see what you mean, LiftedUp. I think they may have undersized the whole thing thinking that it wouldn't scare people that way, but in reality they just made a dangerous toy.
03/14/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
It's silicone, small, and rounded, so I wouldn't call it dangerous. If it gets lost it would definitely be uncomfortable, but no harm would come.

There aren't any instructions included, which is odd for something as specialized as a prostate massager.

The Talon is made of a very stiff silicone (stiffer than a pink eraser), so it has no problems with stimulating the prostate. Evolved could have a winner here - it would be better if they had another tail coming out to make a "T" base, though.
03/15/2010
Contributor: LiftedUp LiftedUp
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Originally posted by ScottA
It's silicone, small, and rounded, so I wouldn't call it dangerous. If it gets lost it would definitely be uncomfortable, but no harm would come.

There aren't any instructions included, which is odd for something as specialized as ... more
ScottA,
Thanks for the response. When I said it was "dangerous" I wasn't referring to the shape or material of the Talon... those are just fine. I was referring to the fact that it is very small, with nothing to keep it from being pulled inside you, and that the toy could get stuck or lodged in there. It may not be PROBABLE, but it is possible that once inside, the toy could be worked BACK into your colon via peristalic action, and become lodged, blocking the colon... and that IS dangerous. It may sound far-fetched, but there are MANY medically recorded cases of such scenarios. Really anytime you lose control of something in there, you are potentially flirting with disaster. Will something terrible definitively occur? Probably not... but the potential for it to happen is more than enough to declare that a toy INTENDED for such play is poorly designed and unsafe.

Just my $.02

But yes, I agree. Should they choose to remodel the base of this toy, they really could have a winner. Here's to hoping!
03/15/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Just curious - during use I noticed that it could do that if it was manipulated by hand, but didn't notice any problem with it sliding in during handsfree use. LiftedUp - did you have the problem with handsfree use or while wiggling the "tail" with your hands?
03/15/2010
Contributor: LiftedUp LiftedUp
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Originally posted by ScottA
Just curious - during use I noticed that it could do that if it was manipulated by hand, but didn't notice any problem with it sliding in during handsfree use. LiftedUp - did you have the problem with handsfree use or while wiggling the ... more
ScottA,
The problem for me, came especially during hands-free use. By the shape of this toy (quite similarly to the Aneros line of toys), it seems it is designed to slide in deeper and provide prostate stimulation when the sphincter of the outer rectum is contracted. While holding onto the external tab, this movement was quite direct, and hit the prostate very well. However, as soon as I let go of the external tab, the Talon would spin itself around backwards. This is actually how it got sucked up inside. First, it spun around backwards, then immediately disappeared inside. While I was holding onto the external tab, the twisting force of the toy trying to turn around was fairly strong, and pretty much consistently there. As soon as I would let go of the external tab it would try to turn on me. I was not able to use this toy, or keep it facing forward, without holding on to the external tab at all times. Obviously this becomes a problem, as you can't just sit there and hold it all the time... especially with anal play hen so much lube is involved. It's bound to slip at some point.

Have you not had a similar experience with the toy trying to twist in you? I mean I know every body is different, but it's hard for me to imagine that it WOULDN'T do this for everyone, with how hard I had to fight it to keep it straight. I can't imagine it would have anything to do with the strength of my rectum pulling it in, as it seems that you are quite experienced in anal/prostate play as well.

Any thoughts and feedback from your experiences would be great as well.
03/15/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by LiftedUp
ScottA,
The problem for me, came especially during hands-free use. By the shape of this toy (quite similarly to the Aneros line of toys), it seems it is designed to slide in deeper and provide prostate stimulation when the sphincter of the outer ... more
I read your review, and I'm wondering if Evolved's supplier is having difficulty with keeping their silicone density consistent. The tail and body of mine are very stiff (I couldn't bend the body in half with moderate force) and I didn't notice it try to twist or have the tail straighten out during use. At the same time I had to be careful when wiggling it by hand because that could push it all the way inside.

Either way it would be better to have a second "arm" on the base.
03/15/2010
Contributor: LiftedUp LiftedUp
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Originally posted by ScottA
I read your review, and I'm wondering if Evolved's supplier is having difficulty with keeping their silicone density consistent. The tail and body of mine are very stiff (I couldn't bend the body in half with moderate force) and I ... more
ScottA,
Very interesting point on the Silicone. That sounds nothing like mine?!?! Very odd. If I have time in the next few days, maybe I'll try to get some pictures or a video of mine... because it sounds completely different than yours.

But yes, I still agree that a second "arm" would be best.
03/16/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
Am I the only one that doesn't think this is long enough to hit the prostate on most male bodied folks? It's cute but...seems pretty impractical. Thoughts?
After getting my partner to use it, I can confidently say it was long enough to hit his for sure lol. Now, that can't be said for everyone which I mention in my review, but for us this was a 5 star product.
09/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by LiftedUp
Hey guys,
I just found this thread, after completing my review for the Talon. Much like you are, I was very skeptical about the size of this toy once I actually saw it. I have used TONS of toys for anal/p-spot play, and never had any success ... more
I saw your review also but don't agree with your regards to safety in the instances of use while stationary. I do advise to not use this out and about because it is possible (although I suspect not likely) to be stuck in. My boyfriend use of this proved to be safe and the toy was NOT going I even if we applied a lot of pressure. The rigidness of the toy and curve make this possible.
09/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jones
So, are there instructions telling the user which end is which? My initial reaction would be that the small end would go in and try to stimulate the prostate. This situation with soft silicone hasn't done a very good job of prostate stimulation ... more
Yes it is to be used with the big end in. I think I read that on the company web site.
09/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by LiftedUp
ScottA,
The problem for me, came especially during hands-free use. By the shape of this toy (quite similarly to the Aneros line of toys), it seems it is designed to slide in deeper and provide prostate stimulation when the sphincter of the outer ... more
This is crazy! You inserted it with the bumps facing up and the tail going towards your belly button? I honestly don't see how this could ever happen on myself or my partner.
09/07/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
It does feel good, and I've never had a problem with the tail slipping in. I was a little concerned when I was using my hand to move it around that, were I not careful, I could push it all the way in, but I've had that concern with the Ryder as well (and it's never gone all the way in, either).

The silicone is extremely stiff, more like hard rubber than most silicones. It's definitely solid enough to stimulate the prostate.

Lauren - my guess is that LiftedUp means what would be the big end if you straightened the Talon out, that is the end without the bend. It's 2-3x the diameter of the tail. Inserting tail first would be uncomfortable.

Like the Aneros products the Talon moves around very easily from the muscular contractions in the pelvic area and the tip dances across the prostate. Very pleasant during use, and unlike the Aneros-type products the base doesn't poke if you roll over on it.

While I have never had it slide inside, having a "fishtail" base on it would just give that little bit more of assurance so you don't have the lingering question "what if..."
09/07/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by ScottA
It does feel good, and I've never had a problem with the tail slipping in. I was a little concerned when I was using my hand to move it around that, were I not careful, I could push it all the way in, but I've had that concern with the Ryder ... more
See for us, I didn't see how it could unless a LOT of force was applied and pain was endured. I actually tried to see if it was possible, carefully of course. The tail of the Talon on ours cannot be straighten out to less that a 45 degree angle.

I totally agree though...a T base or longer tail would be better for more peace of mind.
09/07/2010
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
See for us, I didn't see how it could unless a LOT of force was applied and pain was endured. I actually tried to see if it was possible, carefully of course. The tail of the Talon on ours cannot be straighten out to less that a 45 degree angle. ... more
Our Talon's tail straightens out completely. A T base would be a great idea!
12/24/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by Redboxbaby
Our Talon's tail straightens out completely. A T base would be a great idea!
During use, or do you have to really try and flex it?
12/24/2010
Contributor: messer69 messer69
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
Am I the only one that doesn't think this is long enough to hit the prostate on most male bodied folks? It's cute but...seems pretty impractical. Thoughts?
it can hit it, it just won't stay there
10/11/2011
Contributor: messer69 messer69
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Originally posted by messer69
it can hit it, it just won't stay there
try it
10/11/2011
Contributor: messer69 messer69
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Originally posted by ScottA
It does feel good, and I've never had a problem with the tail slipping in. I was a little concerned when I was using my hand to move it around that, were I not careful, I could push it all the way in, but I've had that concern with the Ryder ... more
nexus is better
10/11/2011
Contributor: messer69 messer69
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Originally posted by Sir
It does look a bit small, but I believe that there are toys even shorter that have worked. Mr. Sauce or Jimbo should help with this.
look at the shape
10/11/2011
Contributor: Rod Ronald Rod Ronald
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
Am I the only one that doesn't think this is long enough to hit the prostate on most male bodied folks? It's cute but...seems pretty impractical. Thoughts?
no, it's small...very small
12/29/2011
Contributor: godweensatan godweensatan
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
Agreed!
yeah this thing is junk city. dont bother
02/14/2012
Contributor: Petite Cannibal Petite Cannibal
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Originally posted by Owl Identified
Am I the only one that doesn't think this is long enough to hit the prostate on most male bodied folks? It's cute but...seems pretty impractical. Thoughts?
Agreed. Looks nice, and like it'd feel amazing, but my man's prostate is a little higher than this toy's insertable length.
12/22/2012