They have the Cross, Baby Jesus, and the Virgin Mary all in the XXXorcist. I believe that at some point all three are used simultaneously as well.

As for voting. I vote all three.

I do think it is offensive... if you are doing it in church in front of people who believe in God, The Virgin Mary, and Jesus. On the other hand, you churchgoers, REALLY need to understand that a LOT of what you people do is incredibly offensive to other people as well, which I think is PART of what inspires people to make shit like that.

I am agnostic, I believe in nothing except for something bigger than myself. I don't try to name it, for all I know, it's my imagination. I am happy for people who find religion helps them be better people. But I honestly believe in nothing more than trying to be true to yourself and being the best damn person you can be without harming others to get there. I don't need GOD to tell me not to murder, steal and cheat. I do it because I don't agree with the carnage that it can cause. Mentally and emotionally in bot the victim and the offender.

I mean, no offense, but for people who follow a religion that was behind .... burning people at the stake for example, I think that you should probably not be pointing fingers about what exactly is disrespectful. Unless somebody is actually being hurt, I think we all need to stay the hell out of each others likes and dislikes. less

Just because a few extreme followers of a certain religion chose to use their beliefs to justify doing very wrong things does not mean that the rest of the people who follow that religion should just have to suck it up when someone does something blatantly offensive.

I notice you only mention Christian/Judaism/Cath olicism in your religious rant, specifically when referencing the Salem Witch Trials. What of the extreme Muslims who blow people up in suicide bombings or who fly planes into buildings that have thousands of people inside of them? There are a lot of people who misuse religion to wage wars and oppress people. That doesn't mean everyone who practices that religion believes what those people do is right. less

Okay, this is getting a bit heated here. So forgive me for kicking it up a notch, but comparing Muslims and Christians and the "current vs history" argument really burns my butt.

I had an acquaintance say on FB one time that "Christians burn books, Muslims burn people so who's worse?" But honestly, Christians have been committing hate crimes since the church turned political and they still do. Take a look at the American terrorists of the past 30 years, religious fanatics. What about bombing PP clinics? What about standing outside a PP clinic screaming about how someone is going to Hell and Jesus hates them for what they're "doing?" Is that not terrorism? Or telling people that they're going to burn in Hell just for who they sleep with. Or what about beating someone to death, or nearly to death because of who they sleep with. Is that not terrorism?

It's the same thing that's happening in the Muslim world. The religion has been political for quite some time, but it's gotten increasingly political and fanatic groups are taking their turn at "exacting justice for their god," much like Christians have for centuries. But truth be told, there are a lot more Christian terrorists than Muslim. We just hear about the Muslims more.

Christians who don't take it to those extremes turn a blind eye to what other Christians do in the name of that same God. Pretend like they're just wackos or that it doesn't happen. Personally, I think that people who pretend like all Christians are peaceful loving people are as bad as the ones who blow up clinics and gay-friendly churches, maybe worse, because you're not doing anything about it. I know that in my city, if a clinic or a church had been burned down, I'd be there helping them rebuild it rather than just feeling bad about it. Thankfully, it hasn't happened here that I've ever been aware of.

Personally, while initially I found some of these toys somewhat amusing (mostly because of the sarcastic commentary running through my head), I think it borders on the line of ridiculous (sorry if that offends) and tasteless. And for the most part I'm offended by them. But I chose to come in to this forum and I chose to Google them and look at them, so if it's offensive to me, I suppose I offended myself. And you offended yourself by coming in here and reading about/looking at these things as well. less

Don't project what some idiot on faceboook said onto what I was saying. I was merely drawing comparisons in the heinous shit that SOME (a select few fanatics) people did in the name of the religion they believe in. Muslims and Christians aren't the only ones who have done this, they're just the most widely recognized.

I never once said that any of the things you mentioned weren't terrorism. Not once. Just because I was defending the right that people have to practice a religion they choose and that I think it's disrespectful to craft a butt plug in the shape of someone else's God does not mean that I condone terroristic behavior.

You have absolutely no clue what is in the minds and hearts of the vast majority of religious people, including Christians. You have no idea what they're doing in their free time. When I was a practicing Christian, I spent months doing fund raisers and working odd jobs after school so I could save up money to go on trips where I would spend my entire Spring break and part of my Summer vacation going on trips with other teenagers in my church. On those trips we traveled to poor areas (in the U.S. and even went to Mexico one year). The men in the group would go around doing construction, building churches and shelters, cleaning up the area. The women would cook and prepare food for the local people who wouldn't have otherwise had meals to eat that week. They do this shit every single year and everyone in the church who is able is welcome to go.

I spent a lot of free time collecting donations and used my own babysitting money to put together care packages to be taken to battered women's shelters so that women who escaped abusive relationships would have simple things like shampoo, razors, soap, deodorant and clothes to wear. So that their children would have those things too. I spent weekends working at food pantries, putting together bags and boxes of groceries for people who couldn't afford to buy any. I made cards and potted plants to take to nursing homes on holidays and spent time talking and reading to elderly people who had no family to come visit them. I put together shoeboxes full of school supplies, basic necessities and toys to send to children in Africa every August.

That? Is what good people do, and sometimes those people happen to be Christians. Sometimes they happen to be Muslim, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Taoist, or Catholic or Jewish or Agnostic or Athiest. So no, not all Christians are busy turning a blind eye to the hateful things some idiot wants to do in the name of their God. Sometimes, they're too busy trying to do all of these good things that never even get noticed because people are too busy paying attention to the idiots bombing abortion clinics.

No, not all Christians are peaceful, but not all people are peaceful. There are hateful, mean people who believe all sorts of things. And no, I don't have to look at baby Jesus butt plugs, but I can still think it's pretty fucking rude for someone to create them. less

Not to fan the flames, (wow, I'm downright punny, eh?) but the connection with burning people at the stake to the Salem Witch Trials, is incorrect.

Nineteen people, primarily women, were hanged during the Salem Witch Trials. One man, Giles Corey, was crushed to death by heavy stones, while interrogated. A few died while imprisoned.

It is a common misconception that accused witches in Salem were burned, since it was indeed one of the ways people executed accused witches, though I've read hanging was more prevalent in Britain and the American Colonies, while burning was more of a Continental European method. I don't mean to sound like I'm nitpicking, but I just want to put the facts on the table.

Since records were not kept back then, it is unknown exactly how many accused witches have been murdered throughout history. Some put the number at many, many tens of thousands. Others, even say possibly hundreds of thousands.

And it's not only Christianity that accuses/accused people of being witches and executes for it. It's estimated that around 200 people are lynched in India a year for that very reason. In Sub-Saharan Africa and Saudi Arabia, they kill accused witches too. It's something that happens in *alot* of places, so it's not exclusive to Christianity.

I think that Girl With Fire was just using the burning of accused witches as an example from off the top of her head, though there are many more. The Crusades for example, the Spanish Inquisition, and others. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't other religions that have done terrible things too. Nor should it mean that the whole of a religion should be defined by such acts.

It's *primarily* the religious extremists that do the terrible things. Unfortunately, for example, alot of innocent, kind Muslims are wrongfully judged now for what the few extremists did on 9/11. Just because there are alot of bad people in the world doesn't mean that everyone in a specific group/s is horrible.

Personally, I don't mind any religion as long as the person in question is nice to me and doesn't try and convert me, then "I'm cool" with them. And even if they do try to convert me, I do my best to try and be polite, and feel that they're just doing so because they care. I don't necessarily like, nor appreciate, someone trying to convert me, but I like to think they're still a good person.

As for the Baby Jesus Butt Plug and other toys, while they personally do not offend me, I could see where they would offend some.

There are things that people of any religion do towards others or towards myself that vex me, and I'll admit, there are passages in the Bible that shock and offend me.

*HOWEVER*, I know there are Christians who are just as offended as I am at those passages. And I also know that there are great morals in the Bible too. Like caring for others, helping the poor, less fortunate, and needy, not judging others, forgiveness, and other good teachings. When I think of Christians, I like to think of these people, the kind, caring people who are accepting of everyone and who lend a helping hand to others.

I may not be a Christian, and have been happily Wiccan for many years, but even I recognize there are good teachings and good people.

Thus far, I've not had anyone chase after me wielding a rock, so I can't be too angry. Granted, I've had my share of people wanting to convert me, but hey, at least they aren't trying to beat it into me with said rock.


*TL;DR* : I'm not offended by the sex toys, but I can see where they might offend some. Don't judge a whole religion by the acts of it's extremists (no matter what religion it may be). No one was burned in Salem. Please don't try to convert or throw rocks at me, it makes me has a sad .

And cloches and pomegranates are awesome. The End

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Not to fan the flames, (wow, I'm downright punny, eh?) but the connection with burning people at the stake to the Salem Witch Trials, is incorrect.

Nineteen people, primarily women, were hanged during the Salem Witch Trials. One man, Giles Corey, was crushed to death by heavy stones, while interrogated. A few died while imprisoned.

It is a common misconception that accused witches in Salem were burned, since it was indeed one of the ways people executed accused witches, though I've read hanging was more prevalent in Britain and the American Colonies, while burning was more of a Continental European method. I don't mean to sound like I'm nitpicking, but I just want to put the facts on the table.

Since records were not kept back then, it is unknown exactly how many accused witches have been murdered throughout history. Some put the number at many, many tens of thousands. Others, even say possibly hundreds of thousands.

And it's not only Christianity that accuses/accused people of being witches and executes for it. It's estimated that around 200 people are lynched in India a year for that very reason. In Sub-Saharan Africa and Saudi Arabia, they kill accused witches too. It's something that happens in *alot* of places, so it's not exclusive to Christianity.

I think that Girl With Fire was just using the burning of accused witches as an example from off the top of her head, though there are many more. The Crusades for example, the Spanish Inquisition, and others. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't other religions that have done terrible things too. Nor should it mean that the whole of a religion should be defined by such acts.

It's *primarily* the religious extremists that do the terrible things. Unfortunately, for example, alot of innocent, kind Muslims are wrongfully judged now for what the few extremists did on 9/11. Just because there are alot of bad people in the world doesn't mean that everyone in a specific group/s is horrible.

Personally, I don't mind any religion as long as the person in question is nice to me and doesn't try and convert me, then "I'm cool" with them. And even if they do try to convert me, I do my best to try and be polite, and feel that they're just doing so because they care. I don't necessarily like, nor appreciate, someone trying to convert me, but I like to think they're still a good person.

As for the Baby Jesus Butt Plug and other toys, while they personally do not offend me, I could see where they would offend some.

There are things that people of any religion do towards others or towards myself that vex me, and I'll admit, there are passages in the Bible that shock and offend me.

*HOWEVER*, I know there are Christians who are just as offended as I am at those passages. And I also know that there are great morals in the Bible too. Like caring for others, helping the poor, less fortunate, and needy, not judging others, forgiveness, and other good teachings. When I think of Christians, I like to think of these people, the kind, caring people who are accepting of everyone and who lend a helping hand to others.

I may not be a Christian, and have been happily Wiccan for many years, but even I recognize there are good teachings and good people.

Thus far, I've not had anyone chase after me wielding a rock, so I can't be too angry. Granted, I've had my share of people wanting to convert me, but hey, at least they aren't trying to beat it into me with said rock.


*TL;DR* : I'm not offended by the sex toys, but I can see where they might offend some. Don't judge a whole religion by the acts of it's extremists (no matter what religion it may be). No one was burned in Salem. Please don't try to convert or throw rocks at me, it makes me has a sad .

And cloches and pomegranates are awesome. The End

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Just because a few extreme followers of a certain religion chose to use their beliefs to justify doing very wrong things does not mean that the rest of the people who follow that religion should just have to suck it up when someone does something blatantly offensive.

I notice you only mention Christian/Judaism/Cath olicism in your religious rant, specifically when referencing the Salem Witch Trials. What of the extreme Muslims who blow people up in suicide bombings or who fly planes into buildings that have thousands of people inside of them? There are a lot of people who misuse religion to wage wars and oppress people. That doesn't mean everyone who practices that religion believes what those people do is right. less