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Mentors--Why not start a competition?

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Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
Here is my idea. Why not start a competition between the mentors? It could be on a month to month deal. Each mentor could take their best student and pit them against the other mentors best in a contest for the best review. It could be judged by the Eden staff and maybe a prize for the winning student and mentor could be worked out by Eden.

It could see more in the mentor program and I know people would work hard to improve themselves.

But all in all---Just An Idea
02/28/2011
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Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
From a Mentor's point of view I'm not sure that Alan or I would participate in something like that. Having us choose our "best" student would undoubtedly hurt some of our others, particularly when so many of them come into the program lacking confidence in their writing skills. I couldn't see singling one out when they're all working hard to do their best. That's JMO though.

~Michele
03/01/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
I would not participate either; I don't want to have to judge students and pit them against one another, even if it's just in friendly competition. Not everyone is a gifted writer, not everyone has English as their first language, and something like this, if I'd been entered it when I was a student, would've hurt my feelings if I wasn't picked.
03/01/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
Yes, I see how that comes off now that I look at it. I think I was trying to think of a way to get more attention to the mentor program. I like the "Review Rumbles" and think they try to encourage better writers. I thought this idea might also, because I do think for the most part, It's on your shoulders to teach new people about the site and also how to do the reviews.
03/01/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by markeagleone
Yes, I see how that comes off now that I look at it. I think I was trying to think of a way to get more attention to the mentor program. I like the "Review Rumbles" and think they try to encourage better writers. I thought this idea might ... more
Instead of this, we could have a "Student Rumble" and the best review from ALL students, submitted every month, could be included and Rumbled together. This way it could highlight newer reviewers.

But still, I'm not entirely sure if it still wouldn't cause hurt feelings.
03/01/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Instead of this, we could have a "Student Rumble" and the best review from ALL students, submitted every month, could be included and Rumbled together. This way it could highlight newer reviewers.

But still, I'm not entirely ... more
I still don't understand the hurt feeling thing. If I pitted myself against the higher up people, I would probably lose. I would still love the challenge. If it could better me, I'm all for it. It's like playing a game in school. There is always winners and losers. As long as it is your best shot, there is no reason to be hurt. I, myself, am still learning. I can say, if Eden sent me out something identical to one higher ranked then me, I would love the challenge. Win or lose, it would better my reviews. My idea above was because some need to be motivated. I just like the challenge to better myself. No, I'm not a big sports buff,either. It just seems to me, if kids can do it (spelling Bs,ect.), we here should be able to.
03/01/2011
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
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Originally posted by markeagleone
I still don't understand the hurt feeling thing. If I pitted myself against the higher up people, I would probably lose. I would still love the challenge. If it could better me, I'm all for it. It's like playing a game in school. There is ... more
Not everyone is lucky enough to have the type of personality that lets them see such challenges as a fun opportunity. In school, did you notice the kids who avoided the competitive activities and were really uncomfortable when they were forced into them? They grow up to be adults who are relieved to not have to participate in such things. Some personalities see the "winners or losers" situation and avoid it because being a Loser can really hurt, especially when they're trying as hard as they can. They interpret it as "My best isn't good enough" instead of "Oh well, I did my best so it's still ok."

We're just saying that it may not be a good thing for (some of) the brand new reviewers who are still working to build their confidence and get comfortable in the community. Did that make sense?

When you say that "some need to be motivated" could you explain a little bit about what you mean? I'm just curious, actually, because most of our students have seemed very motivated. Or do you mean something to motivate people to join the Mentor program in the first place?
03/02/2011
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
Same thing could be said about the weekly rumble - feelings could be hurt for those who don't get any votes, or very few or even for those who never make it into the rumble in the first place.

Personally, if my reviews aren't good enough, it makes me strive to do better (I can't give up til I conquer the best I can possibly do, but to me - there is ALWAYS better for me to work towards!) but not everyone feels that way.
03/02/2011
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
Perhaps if they did take on this idea, if some students are too overly sensitive about maybe not winning, they could opt out!
I really don't see it that much different from the normal rumble. Only this way, students could state to their mentors, whether or not they want to participate. Then the risk is totally up to the students.
03/02/2011
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
BTW... student reviews are all eligible for the current weekly rumbles too, just in case anyone didn't know.
03/02/2011
Contributor: gone77 gone77
Yeah, I'm not keen on the idea, either. While it might encourage students to do better, I see the potential for this to backfire. Students have enough on their plate just trying to learn how to write good reviews, I think making it a competition could put more pressure on them. Also, a desire to be the best might encourage those who wouldn't normally plagiarize to consider it if they feel pressured. I think the Weekly Review Rumble is enough.
03/02/2011
Contributor: El-Jaro El-Jaro
I can see where you're coming from. I agree with Zuul.

I also agree with Michele about competitions. I HATED competing for anything in school.

Plus, it's a little too Pokemon for me.
03/02/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
I can see where you're coming from. I agree with Zuul.

I also agree with Michele about competitions. I HATED competing for anything in school.

Plus, it's a little too Pokemon for me.
For YOU Mr. Sauce? But, "I want to be the VERY. BEST! Like no one ever WAS"

Okay... now that I let my nerd juice drain a little, I have some room to let it build up a little more.
03/02/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
I was trying to think of an idea that would motivate new people to enter the mentor program. I was not trying to single anyone out as far as what happened in the competition. When I first joined the site, I was lost at many things, including the mentor program and what it had to offer. My idea was to "fill the proverbial pot" a little more, without taking a chunk out of Eden.There are very good teachers(mentors)on this site and I think they should be used. The help I have been given has been invaluable!
03/03/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by markeagleone
I was trying to think of an idea that would motivate new people to enter the mentor program. I was not trying to single anyone out as far as what happened in the competition. When I first joined the site, I was lost at many things, including the ... more
I think the best thing you could do would be to spread the word about EF and encourage others to join up and be mentored
03/03/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
For YOU Mr. Sauce? But, "I want to be the VERY. BEST! Like no one ever WAS"

Okay... now that I let my nerd juice drain a little, I have some room to let it build up a little more.
is that you, rapidash?
03/03/2011
Contributor: markeagleone markeagleone
I graciously concede the point. When I first joined, I went the fastest way to become advanced and I went the hard way. I suppose everyone must learn for themselves. I have pushed the mentor program, but I think with no results. I didn't anticipate the idea coming up with such resistance. I do not know what feelings could be more hurt, students going up against you, the mentors, in the rumble now, or students going against students.
03/03/2011