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Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Carrie Ann noted that "the first video review is the hardest", and that seems to be extremely true in my case.

I now have two "takes" shot with one of those little handheld Sony digital cameras, but I'm having a horrid time finding something that will edit the things (MPEG4 I believe). The biggest problem I'm having is with sound - either there will be no sound or it will have dropouts and clicks. This has been tried with multiple programs (but not yet Windows Movie Maker - borrowed one machine to try that out but it turns out that the audio card wasn't configured so there was no sound period). What do you use for editing?? I need to be able to splice together and cut out bits where I flubbed or waited too long.
09/25/2010
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Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
I use Windows Live Movie Maker. Its awful but its all I have at the moment. For my last video, I used the video feature on my camera. The sound quality is horrible. You can hear static. I researched how to remove that and concluded that the only way to remove background noise and clicks is with high end software. With my other camera, the clicks and noises it makes as it refocuses are the loudest part of a video.

I've become pretty adept at removing 'ums', pauses, etc with movie maker. I actually don't know why everyone doesn't do this. Maybe I'm just oversensitive about that filler word, but videos are so much better without them and they're easy to snip out.

I brought an ancient copy of Adobe Premiere home from work (version 6.0), but it won't install on my laptop. But today I stumbled across an ancient laptop. There's hope! I think ancient Premiere is probably better than movie maker. We'll see.

Its true that the first video is the hardest. I'm still nervous when I make them but less so now.
09/25/2010
Contributor: Selective Sensualist Selective Sensualist
Gee, making a video sounds even more complicated than I thought it would be!

I'll ask around for tips on reasonably-priced software that is easy-to-use. If I learn anything helpful, I'll let you guys know.
09/25/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
CinemaForge is a good free program

Can convert file types with it, that is what I use it for, I do not know if it has any other editing effects, but you can play around with different file types and stuff.
09/26/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
I'll have to try both of those (WMM and CinemaForge). The noise was weird - it would only come up if I opened it with a certain program. If I used a simple player on the input files it wasn't there.
09/26/2010
Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
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Originally posted by ScottA
I'll have to try both of those (WMM and CinemaForge). The noise was weird - it would only come up if I opened it with a certain program. If I used a simple player on the input files it wasn't there.
It looks like CinemaForge is more for converting to different formats than for editing. But this thread prompted me to search and actually it looks like there are some promising free video editors out there. I'm going to give Cinefx and t@bZS4 a try. They both look good.
09/26/2010
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
I haven't tried any of the ones for Windows, but hopefully you'll find a good one to use!
09/26/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
I have used Windows Movie Maker, which is free and very easy to use. I also have used Vegas, which has a lot of cool extras, but has more of a time commitment when learning to use. it.
09/27/2010
Contributor: Persephone Nightmare Persephone Nightmare
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Originally posted by ScottA
Carrie Ann noted that "the first video review is the hardest", and that seems to be extremely true in my case.

I now have two "takes" shot with one of those little handheld Sony digital cameras, but I'm having a horrid ... more
I know exactly what you mean, I'm trying to make my first one and it seems so darned hard, lol. I've done I don't know how many takes, and one I'll lose track of what I'll say, the next one the phone rang, I sneezed in another, it's just crazy, lol (and I'm like OCD when it comes to this kind of stuff).
10/01/2010
Contributor: Rockin' Rockin'
If you stumble during a video review or have some sort of interruption, just pause, compose yourself, and pick up with the last complete sentence you can remember. Then when you edit the video later, you can just cut out the parts with mistakes and leave the good footage intact. Trust me, even if the cut is obvious, it's not that big of a deal (as long there aren't like 50 of them) and you'll sound fine. ^_^ This way you don't have to start from the beginning each time.
10/01/2010
Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
You don't have to make one continuous video. If you flub a sentence just repeat it and crop out the flubbed sentence. Surprisingly its not that noticeable. I crop out all my 'um's too. It sounds better that way.
10/01/2010
Contributor: David88 David88
Scott I actually do video professionally for my career. What you're facing is pretty common. Couple things, I know you're not a pro and don't want to spend any money but it may be worth looking into adobe premiere elements if you're on a pc. It's not super expensive (I think you can get it for around $50) and it is a scaled down version of the full blown Adobe Premiere Pro that a lot of pros use (I'm partial to Final Cut Pro) but if you're on a PC Premiere is pretty good. It also has a lot more codecs (the things required to play back audio and video files then you currently have) and has a pretty good chance of supporting your camera. Adobe has 30 day completely working copies of pretty much all of their software on their site so that would be worth looking into. I'm afraid I don't know of any good free ones probably 'cause I haven't researched too much since I work on videos all day and the software I use is worth the cost. Couple other things to look into. Check to make sure you're camera didn't come with some sort of disk. Finally if it didn't and you don't want to spend any money (though like I said it's a 30 day trial that has no limitations) you could look into mpegstreamclip. It's a free program I use all the time for converting files into different formats. It might be able to play the file back. It's not an editing program and all you can do is trim the beginning and end of the file but you could possibly use it to get it in a format that you can work in. Best of luck to you and let me know if I can help out with any questions. I'm guessing this is your Feeldoe More review? I've been looking forward to your review on it for a while and can't wait to watch it.
10/01/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by David88
Scott I actually do video professionally for my career. What you're facing is pretty common. Couple things, I know you're not a pro and don't want to spend any money but it may be worth looking into adobe premiere elements if you're ... more
Comparision - Feeldoe More, Nexus Maximus, Share, Sysil Edge.

I was hoping to just run it through my Final Cut setup, but the Mac is old (G4) and it was taking 20 minutes of rendering to see every little change I did (and the sound didn't come out) - I used to use a tape video camera, which worked just fine, but it died a couple of months ago .
10/01/2010
Contributor: Sammi Sammi
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Originally posted by ScottA
Comparision - Feeldoe More, Nexus Maximus, Share, Sysil Edge.

I was hoping to just run it through my Final Cut setup, but the Mac is old (G4) and it was taking 20 minutes of rendering to see every little change I did (and the sound didn't ... more
Do you have a copy of iMovie? It does some pretty decent editing, transitions, titles, etc and it's a lot faster than FInal Cut, although the end compression can take a while
10/01/2010
Contributor: David88 David88
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Originally posted by ScottA
Comparision - Feeldoe More, Nexus Maximus, Share, Sysil Edge.

I was hoping to just run it through my Final Cut setup, but the Mac is old (G4) and it was taking 20 minutes of rendering to see every little change I did (and the sound didn't ... more
G4 huh? Well you might not be totally out of luck. The reason Final Cut is taking forever is partially due to the format it's in. My recommendation would be this. Try and load your clip up in that mpegstreamclip I mentioned. See if the audio plays. If it does what I would recommend is transcoding and downscaling the footage to the DV codec. It may take several hours to do the initial conversion but once you've done that the audio and video should play back ok even on a G4. If the audio still doesn't play right then I'd like to introduce to my little friend perian It is a collection of codecs for macs that will hopefully have the correct codec you need. Let me know if you need step by step advice through this.
10/02/2010